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    2000W power supplies appear (OCZ)

    2000W power supplies appear

    GRAPHICS CARDS ARE constantly demanding more and more juice, and the levels at we are looking now are pretty much unbelievable.

    While the microprocessor industry learned its lesson about bleeding power like a stuck pig, the graphics boys are still living in a dream bubble that power levels won't be reached.

    Since 80nm and 65nm graphics chips are approaching fast, there is general concern how much power next generation graphics chips consume, given the fact that the PCIe Gen2 standard will give an additional 75W, or 75x4 = 300W. If you want a multiple graphics chip configuration, you will require at least 1000 Watts at 85% efficiency.

    Engineers at ULTRA and OCZ Technology worked hard on this conundrum and the final results are being launched this CES. Forget about 1K or 1100 Watt power supplies, 2000 watts is now the measure of brutal power for computer components. So these power supply units (PSUs_ have power spec equal to small air-conditioning units and just mention that the approach of these two companies is totally different.






    Size does matter...



    The guys at OCZ essentially placed two 900W PSUs inside a huge external box which connects to the small box which will be installed inside the case. Modular approach resulted in enormous amount of cables for the components, so even connecting two motherboards should not prove to be a problem (or a motherboard and a rail for the external dual graphics box, but we didn't told you that).








    ...but technique is important as well



    ULTRA took a different approach, putting a single chassis system with separate power elements for the 12V, giving out 150 Ampers of power for the components that ride the 12V rail. There is also one small issue for US households. Since the electric current is specc'ed at 15A per socket, US users will have to use two power cables in order to get the PSUs running. In Ol' mother Europe, things will be fine... for the time being.

    Although it may not seem so, both PSUs will give their owners a hard time while placing the PSU inside (or outside) the case. Ultra's 2K is around twice the size of regular PSUs and pretty much require a spatious case in order to fit in, while OCZ will take the room on your desk if you don't put it on top.

    Judging by the size of OCZ monster baby, it seems that a review of these monster 2K power supplies will require a separate components category.



    http://www.theinq.com/default.aspx?article=36825

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    Am I missing something?

    Has "2000w" become a new trend?

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    I hope system consumption will go down one day to 300w

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    Massive external PSU?

    No thanks

    Nor does my pc need 2kw, heck, you could power every computer in my household and probably a few others with power to spare!
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    I actually like the idea of an external power supply.

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    we will be doing an internal one also...this if got you benching freaks who want the POTS back etc.


    150A on the 12V lines with 7 lines total.

    Ohh and its x2 1100W cores...not 2x900
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    OCZ?

    whoa...
    now I am definatly curious.

    I can't believe 2Kw is becoming the new thing.
    there was no evolution from 1K to 2K.... just a complete jump.
    no 1300 watters, then 1400 and so on... just right to 2Kw....

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    let me finish my lunch...... I have more info and pics

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    What I don't understand is they obviously don't take into consideration the people that like to protect their mulit thousand dollar investments with UPSes. 2 power cables for 2 sockets is fine, if you're a total and complete moron who plugs his computer directly into the wall, but if you use even a extension strip with no surge protection, that's still using one socket. And what about this: if your computer is taking up 2 sockets (not outlets) on a wall, where are you supposed to plug in your monitor and speakers? Almost all worldwide households do NOT have two outlets next to each other, so WTF? I mean jeebus, this is a trend that the enthusiast community needs to spread the word to NOT jump on this bandwagon.

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    I don't mind that you guys decided to invent these things, but I'll definitely be tweaked by the fact that most of the people who buy them will be using a single graphics card and probably a dual-core processor. I mean sure, it's *capable* of 2000w, but I'm having a hard time thinking of a use for one beyond even 1kW at this moment. That being said, it's also likelyh cheaper to just get 2 PSU's...
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    How pointless.

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    2K psus r not pointless for the upcoming ex. 8-core/2-3 R600/numerous hdd+controllers systems

    but.. 7 lines? yeh, as soon as 1 craps out the psu = bs, no thanx!

    why not fused?


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    Quote Originally Posted by RyderOCZ
    let me finish my lunch......
    Um, no?

    Hurry up Mr. Ryder!

    Man, I wanna work at OCZ, long lunch breaks

    At first I thought that box was the phase, then I thought the box on top was just a MASSIVE PSU, but realized I got it all wrong and it was all the PSU

    I'm warming to the idea of an external PSU.....especially if it can remain near-silent under a 400W load.

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    Will you need to add a deticated circuit to run one of these guys?

    2000/110 = 18A, and that assumes these power supples are 100% efficient, which they most definately aren't.

    So well over 20A on a circuit, most breakers are only rated for 15A.

    Add a monitor or two, desk lamp, speakers, TV or what else you might have in that room and you're going to easily need another circuit.
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    The OCZ PSU is designed for the serious bencher (Dry Ice, LN2, phase on the Vid Cards) in mind. This is not something the everyday user with SLI is going to need.

    This unit will not fit inside your case, it is designed to sit on top of the case or alongside your open bench rig.

    First is the front of the PSU, note there will be some additions here on the finished unit. LCD Display showing multiple pieces of information about what is going on with the PSU. As you can see the Pots are right on the front of the unit to adjust your voltages.

    Second picture is the back of the unit showing the attachment of the "breakout" box to the main PSU unit. The "Breakout box" is multi purpose in design. If you are benching on an "open air" rig, it will sit on the table and allow you to use only the leads necessary. If you have a system mounted in a case, you can mount it in a case where the PSU normally goes (standard ATX mounting holes) and then attach the leads required for your system to function.

    Final pic is of the complete unit with cables attached.

    Pics available here: http://www.bleedinedge.com/forum/sho...739#post210739
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omastar
    How pointless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NapalmV5
    2K psus r not pointless for the upcoming ex. 8-core/2-3 R600/numerous hdd+controllers systems

    but.. 7 lines? yeh, as soon as 1 craps out the psu = bs, no thanx!

    why not fused?


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    I don't understand what you mean? "as soon as 1 craps out the psu = bs" ???

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    I thought power requirements on components was going DOWN, not up (excluding video cards; they're a damn misnomer in the power effiency ring). Not even the most serious LN2 bencher needs 2 thousand damn watts of electricity. a 1 kW would be more than sufficient considering benchers don't have 24 hard drives connected while benching, nor are they running a rack of 1U servers.

    This is a gimmick for 99% of users for the forseeable future.

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    If it is only for LN2 ect benchers then your not going to sell a whole LOT of these... But hey for those needing 2000W ( ) then this looks like a good PSU for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyderOCZ
    I don't understand what you mean? "as soon as 1 craps out the psu = bs" ???
    sorry, i meant load, when theres too much load on 1 line..

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    The breaker will trip before this thing delivers 2000 watts.
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    what matters to me is how much did you improve line regulation? Because I don't want a PSU, who's 12v line bounces more than the opening shot of Baywatch
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    I don't mean to say that only an LN2 bencher can buy the thing...but really those are the users that would welcome something like this because they won't have to worry about ever running out of juice.

    @Napalm,

    Yes but it would be hard pressed to overload 1 rail... there are 4 dedicated PCI-e lines each on a separate rail....so 2 8800GTX's would have 4 12V rails to draw from. That means each connector on the card would have its own 12V rail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nn_step
    what matters to me is how much did you improve line regulation? Because I don't want a PSU, who's 12v line bounces more than the opening shot of Baywatch
    Bouncing harder than the 12v rail on a GXS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyderOCZ
    I don't mean to say that only an LN2 bencher can buy the thing...but really those are the users that would welcome something like this because they won't have to worry about ever running out of juice.

    @Napalm,

    Yes but it would be hard pressed to overload 1 rail... there are 4 dedicated PCI-e lines each on a separate rail....so 2 8800GTX's would have 4 12V rails to draw from. That means each connector on the card would have its own 12V rail.
    im not so much worried about the video cards, its cool, im concerned about the overclocked 8-core+3x controllers+14x drives sustained @ no lower thatn 12v that will power my next system..
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