Hi guys i need to buy a VGA next week , im thinking sapphire X1900XT 256mb or MSI 7900GTO 512MB , i prefer the ATI image , what you guys think in terms of performence ???
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Hi guys i need to buy a VGA next week , im thinking sapphire X1900XT 256mb or MSI 7900GTO 512MB , i prefer the ATI image , what you guys think in terms of performence ???
regards
Last edited by mascaras; 10-24-2006 at 10:11 AM.
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get the X1900XT 256MB surely
the X1900GT 256MB is only slightly slower than the X1800XT 512MB ,faster than the 7900GT
and the 7900GTX's Shader Operations/per sec is only half of the X1900XT
that's why X1900XT be always faster in the HDR games
the X1900XT 256MB can beat both the 7900GTO512 and the 7900GTX 512MB
1900GT
Core Clock: 575 MHz
Memory Clock: 600 MHz (1200 DDR)
Memory Bandwidth: 38.4 GB/sec
Shader Operations: 20700 Operations/sec
Pixel Fill Rate: 6900 MPixels/sec
Texture Fill Rate: 6900 MTexels/sec
Vertex Operations: 1150 MVertices/sec
Fragment Pipelines: 36 (12x3)
Vertex Pipelines: 8
Texture Units: 12
Raster Operators 12
3Dmark03---------------14565
3Dmark05----------------8494
7900GS
Core Clock: 450 MHz
Memory Clock: 660 MHz (1320 DDR)
Memory Bandwidth: 42.24 GB/sec
Shader Operations: 9000 Operations/sec
Pixel Fill Rate: 7200 MPixels/sec
Texture Fill Rate: 9000 MTexels/sec
Vertex Operations: 787.5 MVertices/sec
Memory Clock: 660 MHz (1320 DDR)
Fragment Pipelines: 20
Vertex Pipelines: 7
Texture Units: 20
Raster Operators 16
3Dmark03---------------15473
3Dmark05----------------7435
7800GTX
Core Clock: 430 MHz
Memory Clock: 600 MHz (1200 DDR)
Memory Bandwidth: 38.4 GB/sec
Shader Operations: 10320 Operations/sec
Pixel Fill Rate: 6880 MPixels/sec
Texture Fill Rate: 10320 MTexels/sec
Vertex Operations: 860 MVertices/sec
Fragment Pipelines: 24
Vertex Pipelines: 8
Texture Units: 24
Raster Operators 16
3Dmark03---------------16373
3Dmark05----------------7763
X1800XT
Transistors: 321 million
Core Clock: 625 MHz
Memory Clock: 750 MHz (1500 DDR)
Memory Bandwidth: 48 GB/sec
Shader Operations: 10000 Operations/sec
Pixel Fill Rate: 10000 MPixels/sec
Texture Fill Rate: 10000 MTexels/sec
Vertex Operations: 1250 MVertices/sec
Fragment Pipelines: 32 (12x3)
Vertex Pipelines: 8
Texture Units: 16
Raster Operators 16
3Dmark03---------------15345
3Dmark05----------------9203
7900GTO
Core Clock: 650 MHz
Memory Clock: 660 MHz (1320 DDR)
Memory Bandwidth: 42.24 GB/sec
Shader Operations: 15600 Operations/sec
Pixel Fill Rate: 10400 MPixels/sec
Texture Fill Rate: 15600 MTexels/sec
Vertex Operations: 1300 MVertices/sec
Fragment Pipelines: 24
Vertex Pipelines: 8
Texture Units: 24
Raster Operators 16
3Dmark03---------------20592
3Dmark05---------------10145
7900GTX
Core Clock: 650 MHz
Memory Clock: 800 MHz (1600 DDR)
Memory Bandwidth: 51.2 GB/sec
Shader Operations: 15600 Operations/sec
Pixel Fill Rate: 10400 MPixels/sec
Texture Fill Rate: 15600 MTexels/sec
Vertex Operations: 1300 MVertices/sec
Fragment Pipelines: 24
Vertex Pipelines: 8
Texture Units: 24
Raster Operators 16
3Dmark03---------------21845
3Dmark05---------------10897
X1900XT
Core Clock: 625 MHz
Memory Clock: 725 MHz (1450 DDR)
Memory Bandwidth: 46.4 GB/sec
Shader Operations: 30000 Operations/sec
Pixel Fill Rate: 10000 MPixels/sec
Texture Fill Rate: 10000 MTexels/sec
Vertex Operations: 1250 MVertices/sec
Fragment Pipelines: 48
Vertex Pipelines: 8
Texture Units: 16
Raster Operators 16
3Dmark03---------------18458
3Dmark05---------------11473
Last edited by milkcafe; 10-17-2006 at 07:08 AM.
OK , i just pushed de button BUY Saphhire X1900XT 256mb right now
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I wouldn`t buy it cuz X1900XT is too damn loud![]()
Check mascaras sig. He use watercooling, and his previous card was x1800XT, so i see no problems here.
Originally Posted by Kasparz
yeh , i cant choose in terms of noise or temps cause i use watercooling , i have to choose in terms of performence and image quality .
My conclusion after saw a lot of reviews , is that both VGAs have almost same performence in games , one Vga better ins some games and the other is better in other games .
so i cant choose thinking in Temps and noise (have watercooling)
cant also choose thinking in performence ( both are very similar)
so the only thing left its the image quality , and i have a 7900GT and a X1800XT and i always liked more the ATI image then the Nvidia image ( im not talking about graphics , its about colors , contrast ,....) .
A friend mine have both VGAs X1900XT 256mb and 7900GTO and he says ther 7900GTO even in 3Dmarks have more score , he also says that the scores that user MILKCAFE post are not real , lets wait for next week and then i test the card and post the results
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Last edited by mascaras; 10-17-2006 at 08:56 AM.
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Image quality - ATi wins.. but Imho.. not THAT much difference.. only in a few games.
The 512Mb frame buffer on the GTO's help.
And the ATi drivers... **Hides**
But, whatever your preference is.
I would go GTO. xD
my sapphire X1900XT256 is watercooled
idle: 39-40c
load: 46-50c (depends on what game i'm playing + ambient temps)
ambient: 21-22c
my wc setup is in my sig.
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aiya, are you just using a 120.1 rad for a CPU and GPU block? You might want to think about getting a 120.2 or even a 120.3.
Your temps look a bit high compared to what ATITool reports my temps as for my X1900XT 512. Mine idles at 31-32c and load is about 40c. I have no clue what my ambient is, maybe 70-75f. But I don't think it would be low enough to make that much of a difference.
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Originally Posted by aiya
what is your 3dmark 2005 score with VGA default and opteron 2800mhz ???
I know Conroe gives more ~ 600/700 points than opteron dual core , but anyway what is your 2k5 score ???
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3dmark05 - 11333
default video clocks
3dmark05 - 12241
oc'ed 705/801
you'll easily hit 12k+ on stock video clocks with your c2d.
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i think i gona cancel my order for the new X1950 PRO 512Mb
GeCube Releases TEC Cooled ATI RADEON 1950PRO
GeCube announced the arrival of the FZ Cool overclocked ATI RADEON 1950PRO graphics card with thermoelectric cooling. GeCube's FZ Cool graphics card takes cooling solutions for X1950PRO overclocking to the next level by being the first graphics card in the world to incorporate a TEC (Thermo Electric Chip). TEC's superior cooling performance means that even when the card is overclocked by 20% the temperature remains within the optimum 60'C~70'C range. In addition to the FZ Cool version which comes with TEC chip and FZ double-fans, 1950PRO series cards equipped with normal cooling fans are now also available for power users. All three products use the ATI RV570 core manufactured using an 80nm process with onboard GDDR3 512MB/256MB high speed memory. HDCP is also supported to provide you with the ultimate audio-visual experience.
http://www.gecube.com/press-release-detail.php?id=63469
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On this generation of cards, get the cheapest 512 MB card available. The X1900XT or the 7900GTO is a great choice. As for IQ, well, I have had both, and they are more similar than different. The delta between the two comes down to splitting hairs. As for AF and AA, the ATI card scales much better. So, it will come down to your environment. What monitor will you use? Do you turn up AA and AF in the driver? Or, do you use in game settings?
Personally, there is no wrong choice, just a different one.
And, BTW, default run at 3DMark05 on the GTO at stock clocks (650/660) is about 10,700 with a 2.8 GHz Opteron dual core. With the card OC'd to usable clocks (710/825), it gets about 12,200. 3Dmark06, about 6700 OC'd.
Last edited by HeavyH20; 10-17-2006 at 11:24 AM.
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Bha , after read the reviews the x1950pro is a great card but not so good as the x1900xt 256mb
i go for the x1900xt 256mb then
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hi guys i received my x1900Xt 256mb 1 hour ago
first quik tests:
X1900XT @ Default @ STOCKCOOLER (Fan 50%) ---- TEMPS >> IDLE (40c)
Till now , for what i see this is a great VGA
more testes later .
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EDIT:
Almost 12K DEFAULT
X1900XT 256mb @ DEFAULT || E6400 @ 3500mhz || 3Dmark 2005 (11920 marks)
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Last edited by mascaras; 10-19-2006 at 05:31 AM.
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Sweet VGAhope you enjoy it. I love my x1900xtx.
Put that thing at default XTX speeds.
My best 05, E6400 @ 3.6GHZ Default 1900xtx clocks
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wow that was fast, nice clocks buddy![]()
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try setting the memory @ 800MHz. gave 1000 extra points in mark05Originally Posted by mascaras
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For those that want a quiet X1900 XT 256mb on air just find the HIS brand. Its cooler is a lot like the X1950 XTX.
My temps with Sapphire x1900XT 256MB STOKCOOLER:
40c idle ------- 60c full
and its not sdo noise as the x1800xt
But i dont use AIR , the waterblok of x1800xt its here , maybe tomorow i change it
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nice scoreOriginally Posted by mascaras
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I guess tomarrow you find out if you have 1.2 or 1.1 mem. when you install that VGA WB.
Fantastic scores.
These X1900XT 256's are real bargains.
Coupled with a Core 2.. great stuff.![]()
Last edited by mascaras; 10-19-2006 at 01:08 PM.
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