ASUS Maximus II Formula - new P45 king?

[Haes]

Hi Guys,

I appreciate this thread and not to mentioned simps' awesome guide (thx for that, dude - did 20 Mhz FSB more from 470 to 490 stable with your work).
I've a Q6600er G0 and want to buy a Q9650in a short time, but first I wanted to test the M2F. Normally I run this couple with 4x2Gbs 8500er Dominators from Corsair by 3,2 Ghz / 4*800 and 1.27V VC, 1.5V PLL, 1.1V NB, 1.1V VTT, 1.5V/1.1V SB with CPU/NB GTLs all +30mV rock stable - rest auto.

Bios 1307


This is the Setup for 490:

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 6
FSB Frequency : 490
CPU Clock Skew : Delay 100ps
North Bridge Clock Skew : Delay 300ps
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-980
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Delay 50ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Delay 50ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Delay 50ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Delay 50ps


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto

Write to PRE Delay : Auto
Read to PRE Delay : Auto
PRE to PRE Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : Auto

[like bios shows]

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [8]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

PCIE Frequency : 100

CPU Voltage : 1.24
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.57
FSBT : 1.37
DRAM Voltage : 1.8
North Bridge Voltage : 1.4
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.1

CPU GTL Reference 0 : -25mV
CPU GTL Reference 1 : 20mV
CPU GTL Reference 2 : -25mV
CPU GTL Reference 3 : 20mV
North Bridge GTL Reference : +30mV
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : 12.5mV
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : 12.5mV
North Bridge DDR Reference : 25mV

Load Line Calabration : Enabled
CPU Sread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled


It's small, large, custom FFT and blend stable.

Now my case:

I hit with ease 500 FSB, but it crashes alway by about 10-15 minutes large fft or blend. If I bump 2 or 3 steps the voltages, same results. GTLs in Simps' green sectors didn't work, in fact -25/20 is my most stable setup.

Temps are all normal and good ... NB goes not over 55 °C in the stress tests.

Any hints ?

Thx

Keep up the good work !

[Grnfinger]

Hi Guys,

I appreciate this thread and not to mentioned simps' awesome guide (thx for that, dude - did 20 Mhz FSB more from 470 to 490 stable with your work).
I've a Q6600er G0 and want to buy a Q9650in a short time, but first I wanted to test the M2F. Normally I run this couple with 4x2Gbs 8500er Dominators from Corsair by 3,2 Ghz / 4*800 and 1.27V VC, 1.5V PLL, 1.1V NB, 1.1V VTT, 1.5V/1.1V SB with CPU/NB GTLs all +30mV rock stable - rest auto.

Bios 1307


This is the Setup for 490:

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 6
FSB Frequency : 490
CPU Clock Skew : Delay 100ps
North Bridge Clock Skew : Delay 300ps
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-980
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Delay 50ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Delay 50ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Delay 50ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Delay 50ps


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto

Write to PRE Delay : Auto
Read to PRE Delay : Auto
PRE to PRE Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : Auto

[like bios shows]

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [8]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

PCIE Frequency : 100

CPU Voltage : 1.24
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.57
FSBT : 1.37
DRAM Voltage : 1.8
North Bridge Voltage : 1.4
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.1

CPU GTL Reference 0 : -25mV
CPU GTL Reference 1 : 20mV
CPU GTL Reference 2 : -25mV
CPU GTL Reference 3 : 20mV
North Bridge GTL Reference : +30mV
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : 12.5mV
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : 12.5mV
North Bridge DDR Reference : 25mV

Load Line Calabration : Enabled
CPU Sread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled


It's small, large, custom FFT and blend stable.

Now my case:

I hit with ease 500 FSB, but it crashes alway by about 10-15 minutes large fft or blend. If I bump 2 or 3 steps the voltages, same results. GTLs in Simps' green sectors didn't work, in fact -25/20 is my most stable setup.

Temps are all normal and good ... NB goes not over 55 °C in the stress tests.

Any hints ?

Thx

Keep up the good work !

Why do you need dram skews when your underclocking that kit?
Even running 8GBs you shouldn't need skews

[DaLiu]

Hi guys, my Rampage Formula died yesterday, some strange error after checking devices, USB overpower detected, shutting down in 15 seconds , didnt manage to find the fix so i need to send to RMA so i order a new Maximus 2 Formula, can you please recommend me some settings for Q9450, i would like to manage 475 x 8, on Rampage i manage only 450 x 8, require too much vNB for higher fsb. Probably i will try bios 1901 for my new Maximus 2 Formula and for the memory i will use OCZ DDR2 PC2-9200 Flex II 4GB, so please any advise or some settings will be helpfull for me as i dont understand this things with GTL for NB and CPU. Really appreciate your support!

[Kayso]

Hi guys, my Rampage Formula died yesterday, some strange error after checking devices, USB overpower detected, shutting down in 15 seconds , didnt manage to find the fix so i need to send to RMA so i order a new Maximus 2 Formula, can you please recommend me some settings for Q9450, i would like to manage 475 x 8, on Rampage i manage only 450 x 8, require too much vNB for higher fsb. Probably i will try bios 1901 for my new Maximus 2 Formula and for the memory i will use OCZ DDR2 PC2-9200 Flex II 4GB, so please any advise or some settings will be helpfull for me as i dont understand this things with GTL for NB and CPU. Really appreciate your support!

Here you go

Processor:  Q9450
Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
FSB Frequency: 475
CPU Clock Skew: Auto
NB Clock Skew: Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1140MHz

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information: 

CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay:  3
Row Refresh Recycle Time: 50 DRAM Clocks
Write Recovery Time: 6
Read to Precharge Time: 3

2nd Information:

Read to Write Delay (S/D): Auto
Write to Read Delay (S): Auto
Write to Read Delay (D): Auto
Read to Read Delay (S): Auto
Read to Read Delay (D): Auto
Write to Write Delay (S): Auto
Write to Write Delay (D): Auto


3rd Information:

Write to PRE Delay: Auto
Read to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
All PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
All PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled (setting it to Enabled gave me some more preformance in Everest)
DRAM Read Training: Enabled (and some more preformance too)
MEM. OC Charger: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister: Stronger
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual

Common Performance Level: 8
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled

PCIE Frequency: 101

CPU Voltage: You have to find your best one
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.55
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.325
DRAM Voltage: again you have to find your best
North Bridge Voltage: 1.45
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.55
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.15

CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3): Auto
NB GTL Reference: you have to find what will be your best here - start from +20 to +70 mv.
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto


CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

[DaLiu]

Guys i just receive my M2F but i have one question, my temps are quite high for NB and SB and i already change the ty paste with MX2 under NB, SB and mosfets, the truth is quite hot here, around 30 C in the apartment, is so hot but do you think are normal this temps, usually for my last Rampage Formula i used Thermalright HR5 SLI for NB and SB and for 450 fsb with 1,52 v in NB the temps in full load was around 58 for NB and 52 for SB.



Edit later: after 5 loops of IBT the temps for NB - 60 C and for SB - 56 C, only 4-5 from idle to load.

[orbiter]

Guys i just receive my M2F but i have one question, my temps are quite high for NB and SB and i already change the ty paste with MX2 under NB, SB and mosfets, the truth is quite hot here, around 30 C in the apartment, is so hot but do you think are normal this temps, usually for my last Rampage Formula i used Thermalright HR5 SLI for NB and SB and for 450 fsb with 1,52 v in NB the temps in full load was around 58 for NB and 52 for SB.

With ambient temps that high I would say your NB/SB temps are fine. Just to be on the safe side I always set NB/SB overheat protection temps down to 70*C in BIOS in the hope that this would give early warning of temperature troubles.