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    Quote Originally Posted by mascaras View Post
    you have 47 fps @ 1680x1050 @High settings in tha place ( sunset) with single card ???
    Vista x64, single HD3870, 7.11 drivers without Crysis hotfix, Crysis 64bits DX9 1280x1024@High settings:







    Quote Originally Posted by mascaras View Post
    and crysis bench @ 1680x1050 @High Settings with single card you have average = 40 fps???
    Vista x64, single HD3870, 7.11 drivers without Crysis hotfix, Crysis 64bits DX9 1280x1024@High settings:




    I know this results are with 1280x1024 resolution, in a friends house 1680x1050 to 1280x1024 takes about 3-4 fps in that concrete place. So I have 3-4 fps of advantage. Now add that Vista is 3-4 fps slower than XP, and you have more or less the same final result.

    64bits DX10 Crossfire with this exact same configuration and settings, in that place of yours, fps around 60-65, beach 50-55. Stock cards and 3Ghz E6700. So I think that results are a bit low for CF in XP. That or CF is not really working. What are your results single card?
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    1280x1024 to 1680x1050 its a bit different

    but you are right in 1 thing , Crysis runs better in Vista 64 bit than in windows XP ,thats why you have good FPS with single card but Crossfire in Crysis dont work on Vista only in XP


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    Quote Originally Posted by mascaras View Post
    1280x1024 to 1680x1050 its a bit different

    but you are right in 1 thing , Crysis runs better in Vista 64 bit than in windows XP ,thats why you have good FPS with single card but Crossfire in Crysis dont work on Vista only in XP
    Have you read what I said? 1680x1050 to 1280x1024 is about 3-4 fps, maybe 5, not more. Again too low for CF.

    Crossfire WORKS on Vista, in DX10 mode

    Vista x64, single HD3870, 7.11 drivers without Crysis hotfix, Crysis 64bits DX9 1280x1024@High settings:



    And then ppl say Vista is slow
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    CF in cryis with Vista doesnt work , my friend already tryed


    Btw:


    1280x1024
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    CF hD3870 @ 800/1200









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    Tomorrow I´ll show you some Vista DX10 CF love, time to sleep

    BTW take some Paradise Lost captures, that map will take your fps down
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    Q6600@3890Mhz (aircooled @ thermalrght extreme)
    HD3870 CF @ 870/1250 (CCC) - Stokcooled




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    Quote Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR View Post
    Have you read what I said? 1680x1050 to 1280x1024 is about 3-4 fps, maybe 5, not more. Again too low for CF.

    Crossfire WORKS on Vista, in DX10 mode

    Vista x64, single HD3870, 7.11 drivers without Crysis hotfix, Crysis 64bits DX9 1280x1024@High settings:



    And then ppl say Vista is slow
    I get about 40fps in those same spots, 1680x1050, high, vista 64, and in DX9 (no hotfix)
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    mascaras, thanks for the mini review!
    mascaras did you you create an autoexec.cfg file (using notepad and rename the file autoexec.cfg) and put the following in X:\Program Files\Electronic Arts\Crytek\Crysis SP Demo\Game\Config:
    con_restricted = 0
    r_DisplayInfo = 1
    r_multigpu = 1

    Then start a new game.
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    Thats for what? ??


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    con_restricted = 0 <--unlocks all codes
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    Here is a side note regarding 3870 in CF using the P35 vs X38
    Found here and here as you can see the X38 is faster in CF then P35 in synthetic benchmarks.
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    STaRGaZeR are you using Sp1 RC in vista 64 or the multigpu fixes?
    And with everything on veryhigh on DX10 is crossfire working and do you get good fps?

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    No malik, no SP1 here, just Vista 6000 version. All Vista DX10 and multiGPU patches installed.

    In Crysis and Vista, Catalyst 7.11 without the Crysis hotfix, Crossfire only works in DX10 mode, for both 32 and 64 bits. Keep in mind that this is almost the first release of the drivers for the 3870, so they will improve dramatically over time, specially in CF. For comparison purposes, here are a few screenshots in Paradise Lost, one of the most demanding levels of the game. Mascaras, I would like to see your results here too. This results were done on my sig rig.

    Vista x64, HD3870 Crossfire, 7.11 drivers without Crysis hotfix, Crysis 64bits DX10 1280x1024@High settings:









    Just for information, my single 3870, in the last capture (Prophet one) is around 20-23fps
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    ok i will try



    with windows XP the CF in cysis only work with Hotfix (if use only cat 7.11 doesnt work)

    I have Cat 7.10 + Hotfix



    btw:


    Crysis SIngle hd3870 results with Intel C2D E6750 @ 3.4ghz


    SIngle HD3870 @ 1680x1050 @ High settings Average = 32FPS




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    i think its very very good for single card , i dont know how that guy get that average ................


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    Yes, 7.11 DX10 CF Crysis works OK. See the captures

    I know why that result is so high. That guy is cheating. Take a look at this:





    My monitor only supports 1280x1024. If you select 1680x1050, the Crysis utility will show 1680x1050, but the benchmark runs at 1280x1024. Do you want to see something really ? See below, and please look at the resolution





    BE CAREFUL, CRYSIS BENCHMARKING TOOL IS BUGGY!
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    I would like to se some DX10 action, at least at high settings.
    DX10 + CF + Cat7.11 + C.Hotfix + UltraHigh
    Just to compare.

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    my friend tryed 10 minuts ago HD3870 CF in crysis with Windows Vista @ DX10 with 7.11 ando NO GO !


    btw:


    i tested single VS crossfire in windows XP and its obvious that is working (FPS in left & Right Corner of SS)



    Crossfire @HD3870







    Single Card @HD3870





    Crossfire @HD3870 OC 840/1250







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    Crossfire @HD3870








    Single Card @HD3870







    Crossfire @HD3870 OC 840/1250





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    O_O WTF with that fps? 25?

    I think I will have to do some video of single 3870@ that place
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    Quote Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR View Post
    O_O WTF with that fps? 25?


    yep , thats normal with single card , and with 8800GT i also have around 28 fps in that place (Windows xp)


    Quote Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR View Post

    I think I will have to do some video of single 3870@ that place


    in widows vista 64 bits you must have more , thats normal , crysis runs better in Vista 64bits



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    STaRGaZeR thx for the response and did you try SP1 maybe it gives a performance increase and what mobo and cpu do you have?

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    He replied to that question in post 688 and his system is in his sig.


    Hmmm... i think it is about time to consider buying Vista x64....
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    Quote Originally Posted by mascaras View Post
    yep , thats normal with single card , and with 8800GT i also have around 28 fps in that place (Windows xp)

    in widows vista 64 bits you must have more , thats normal , crysis runs better in Vista 64bits
    NO WAY is only Vista... we are talking about 20fps difference... in Crysis... that impossible and you know it. I´ve noticed that 64bits only affects MINIMUM FPS, not MAXIMUM, average a bit (caused by the higher minimum of course).

    BTW try Paradise Lost CF and no CF in XP like in my previous post, is way more demanding than the beach. And again, CF WORKS on Vistax64 in DX10 mode. If your friend cannot activate it, he must be doing something wrong.

    Tomorrow I´ll do a 30segs video confirmation (limited by my crap camera )
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    test with 1680x1050 High settings if possible ...................



    1280x1024 its a big difference from 1680x1050



    Quote Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR View Post



    Vista x64, single HD3870, 7.11 drivers without Crysis hotfix, Crysis 64bits DX9 1280x1024@High settings:





    Now my run with same settings >>> Crossfire HD3870 @ 1280x1024 @ High settings @ Windows XP ( + 11 Fps )











    And now same settings But 1680x1050












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    Then XP is slow compared to Vista 64... less fps drop in Vista.

    BTW I&#180;m waiting for 7.12 or 8.1 to get my second 3870. The last Nov games has no CF support.
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