AMD 3G - soon officially

[Cooper]

Launch date - 4th April. But only for socket 940.

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[[cTx]Philosophy]

Finally, nice find..
Only 3ghz single but still there getting there..

[zir_blazer]

Only 95W TDP for all these highest end Processors? Are they gonna use lower default Voltage or the A64 FX-60 TDP is overrated?

[Piotrsama]

Can't say I was expecting new powerful single cores.
Interesting.

[krille]

The 2.8 Ghz dual-cores launches when? April 4?

[Cooper]

Next year

[krille]

Next year

Doh!

(Actually I'm happy about that. Hehehe. )

[uOpt]

Only 95W TDP for all these highest end Processors? Are they gonna use lower default Voltage or the A64 FX-60 TDP is overrated?

The Thermal Design Power is not what the chip consumes. The TDP is what the mechanical construction (the casing) of the chip package can dissipate.

[physics_geek]

Any word on MSRP?

[Vincentvega18]

The Thermal Design Power is not what the chip consumes. The TDP is what the mechanical construction (the casing) of the chip package can dissipate.

Having said that, its usually a pretty good indicator of voltage, as were talking about opterons here we dont want any overheating.
Whats this about next year then?
Something on the translation said $1514 but not sure where thats from.

[Cooper]

Well curent Opteron 885 costs $2k on AMD website

[physics_geek]

Dual core 2xx series, I mean. Not interested in single cores.

[Cooper]

It is dual-core

[uOpt]

Having said that, its usually a pretty good indicator of voltage, as were talking about opterons here we dont want any overheating.

No, a number of CPUs that autodetect to different voltages are publishes under the same TDP by AMD.

The TDP is actually not a good indicator of anything, neither power consumption nor voltage.

[turtle]

Seems about right as the (assumingly 65nm) 3ghz dual-core AM2 FX should launch in the same time frame according to the roadmaps. At least now we know the thermal envelope, which is a good deal lower than the 2.8ghz 90nm dual cores...Unless of course, which may be, these will be specially binned for lower power use.

[nn_step]

Socket 940 is near EOL... So big woop..

[zir_blazer]

The Thermal Design Power is not what the chip consumes. The TDP is what the mechanical construction (the casing) of the chip package can dissipate.

I know than the TDP isn't the power consumption of a K8, but is hard to understand why a 3 GHz Rev. SH-E4 Core (Probabily) will have a 89W TDP (And an Heatsink capable of dissipating that) when you have a 2.8 GHz A64 FX-57 that is also a Rev. SH-E4 Core but got a TDP of 105W (And a Heatsink capable of dissipating that). More with less?

[mesyn191]

Socket 940 is near EOL... So big woop..

For those buying a new system yea I'd agree, but for those who already have socket 940 systems, lots of which have been sold BTW, this would be a hell of an upgrade from say a 244/146.

[uOpt]

Socket 940 is near EOL... So big woop..

So much for the "no more new CPUs for socket 940" theory

[uOpt]

I know than the TDP isn't the power consumption of a K8, but is hard to understand why a 3 GHz Rev. SH-E4 Core (Probabily) will have a 89W TDP (And an Heatsink capable of dissipating that) when you have a 2.8 GHz A64 FX-57 that is also a Rev. SH-E4 Core but got a TDP of 105W (And a Heatsink capable of dissipating that). More with less?

As I said, the TDP is just plain nonsense for our purposes.

I don't think the TDP include the HSF they ship, I think it is the IHS packaging and the expectations for the builder only.

[cmay119]

So much for the "no more new CPUs for socket 940" theory

People said the same thing about Socket 754 after the Newark/Turion Release, but then out of the blue AMD decided to drop the 754 Venice's on the market...

[Thorry]

Socket 940 is near EOL... So big woop..

Good thing you know nothing about businesses then...

940 = Server = big business = people wanting to upgrade when the company grows, without having to install and migrate to an entire new server.

I think this won't be the last 940 CPU, 940 isn't for consumers so longer support and upgrades are needed.

[nn_step]

honestly my though is if you are going to spend $1000 on a proc, wouldn't you be willing to spend $400 on a new board and $600 on a proc to get better performance and a better upgrade future?

[Revv23]

honestly my though is if you are going to spend $1000 on a proc, wouldn't you be willing to spend $400 on a new board and $600 on a proc to get better performance and a better upgrade future?

that logic is flawed, dont you think one of the initial reasons they buy the board is for the upgrade path? Not to mention it wouldnt be a new cpu and a new board... lets not forget ram, power supplies, the labor it requires to change several motherboards....i bet to change to mobos out would cost more then the price of the cpu, if you include the hardware/labor costs.

sucks that 939 isnt getting these.... i wish businesses would learn that forcing customers to upgrade is a bad thing. amd probably thinks forcing people off of 939 for more performance is a great idea but for me if i am going to upgrade my motherboard i always consider if my next PC is going to be amd or intel. Where if i want a faster cpu i already have a 939 mobo so i guess i buy a 939 cpu.

[uOpt]

honestly my though is if you are going to spend $1000 on a proc, wouldn't you be willing to spend $400 on a new board and $600 on a proc to get better performance and a better upgrade future?

Exchanging boards in a server environment also means you have to get new RAM from the qualified vendors list, a new PSU from the qualified vendor list, make sure the RAID and multi-port GbE are certaified for the new board. Yadda, yadda yadda.