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    Western Digital working on a 20,000 RPM Raptor

    Several industry sources have said that Western Digital is working on a 20,000 RPM Raptor hard drive.
    According to several sources close to the hard drive industry, Western Digital is working on a 20,000 RPM Raptor hard drive to combat the increasing pressure from SSD manufacturers.
    I bet that it won't really be that much faster than anything else out there.

    SOURCE: http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/06...0-rpm-raptor/1
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    Guess their really riding this magnetic platter train all the way to the end instead of investing funds into solid state research, that's a shame.
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    its ok i just bought a 150gb velociraptor by the time i have outgrown in, SSD's will be faster and cheaper.
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    Why is it a shame. Why put tons of $$$ into something that is far from mature, costs alot of $$$, no set standards, and the demand is low. Current HD Technology is proven, its cheap, and is profitable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vengance_01 View Post
    Why is it a shame. Why put tons of $$$ into something that is far from mature, costs alot of $$$, no set standards, and the demand is low. Current HD Technology is proven, its cheap, and is profitable.
    Its also a dead end.
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    Sorry..SSDs, not some 20K RPM deathcycle HD.
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    I just hope Western Digital is doing some research into SSDs so that when it is finally financially viable for them to mass produce drives they won't be behind the curve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [XC] gomeler View Post
    I just hope Western Digital is doing some research into SSDs so that when it is finally financially viable for them to mass produce drives they won't be behind the curve.
    I have a feeling that in 5 years. WD, Seagate etc will be some unknown names.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shintai View Post
    I have a feeling that in 5 years. WD, Seagate etc will be some unknown names.
    I doubt it they will pick up on the SSD trend sooner or later.

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    too bad. couldn't they just as easily have hopped on the SSD train?
    i mean, 20k rpm is stark raving mad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shintai View Post
    I have a feeling that in 5 years. WD, Seagate etc will be some unknown names.
    Bad feeling. HDD's will always offer an order of magnitude higher capacity than SSD's for the same price. For storage in desktops (i.e. TB's of HD movies) there is nothing wrong with a HDD.
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    I feel this is a bit ... 5 years late to the market
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    Quote Originally Posted by IvanAndreevich View Post
    Bad feeling. HDD's will always offer an order of magnitude higher capacity than SSD's for the same price. For storage in desktops (i.e. TB's of HD movies) there is nothing wrong with a HDD.
    "Always"? Bold statement. I highly doubt it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IvanAndreevich View Post
    Bad feeling. HDD's will always offer an order of magnitude higher capacity than SSD's for the same price. For storage in desktops (i.e. TB's of HD movies) there is nothing wrong with a HDD.
    Tapedrives are also much bigger than HDs....Yet HDs replaced those
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    As already mentioned, it's too late. WD could have made a 15,000rpm raptor with a larger cache a couple of years ago, that would have been do-able. I for sure will not be buying any more mechanical hard drives, look forward to ssd's.

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    I dont think, wd will let tech like ssd pass by

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shintai View Post
    Tapedrives are also much bigger than HDs....Yet HDs replaced those
    The storage technology is the same: magnetic. Sequential access is obviously not suitable for general use. And no, they are not much bigger than HDD's. The largest tape is also around 1TB.

    Quote Originally Posted by m^2 View Post
    "Always"? Bold statement. I highly doubt it.
    Do you have an argument, or do you just not like the word "always"?

    To magnetize a unit of material will always be cheaper than to produce a unit of flash memory. Both benefit from Moore's law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slovnaft View Post
    too bad. couldn't they just as easily have hopped on the SSD train?
    i mean, 20k rpm is stark raving mad.
    pretty sure people thought that about 15k rpm sas drives

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    20k not enough.. bring on 30,000RPM drives
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    ...5 years later:
    "WD 860,000 RPM HDD rumored to be released to challenge Low-end SSDs"

    It's a little too late to put innovation to HDDs(what innovative HDD would you imagine,anyway?). SSDs are the future,as they have none of the sophisicated mechanics, they're fully silent and offer close-to-zero latency (which is more important than higher speeds in most cases).I can also see optical drives being replaced by flash somewhere in the not-so-distant future for the same reasons. Heck,even today's new DVD players have a USB port for flash memory or an external SSD. Blu-ray disks are not even beginning to show some dominance,because they suffer the same problems as CDs/DVDs. Nobody wants a scratch or two to destroy 20+ GB of valuable data,right?
    Alright,that was quite a bit of an offtopic. Anyway. I just don't think this Uber-high spindel speed HDD will come anything close to an SSD in terms of latency (and durability,power consumption and heat production for that matter). Perhaps even its speed will be beaten with the next generation of SSDs(250/250 MB/s read/write I hear? ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by IvanAndreevich View Post
    The storage technology is the same: magnetic. Sequential access is obviously not suitable for general use. And no, they are not much bigger than HDD's. The largest tape is also around 1TB.



    Do you have an argument, or do you just not like the word "always"?

    To magnetize a unit of material will always be cheaper than to produce a unit of flash memory. Both benefit from Moore's law.
    I don't like the word "always".
    Statements that use it are always wrong.
    And, as mentioned before, tape drives was meant to be always cheaper than HDDs. Technology advances + scale change made it wrong. This will be the same.

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    I also believe guys SSD will storm the HDD area...it's a matter of two/three years now until SSD drives become as cheap as HDDs are now. And of course WD or Seagate will still play a major role. They're too big in the storage sector to give up the SSD market to others. Don't think because they don't have anything out
    atm that they're not prepared, that would be suicide.
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    lets hope that the Velociraptor will be the last of my non SSD OS drives
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