Tforce6100-754 3ghz SP64 2500+ Whos OC?

[Serge84]

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=55250
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This is not my OC and sorry if this ever was a double post. But has anybody ever seen this done before with a Tforce? Look how good that OC is. I wish it was mine. I know I'll get speeds like that on my venice. But I wish I had a sempron that good. This should be added into the world records.

The dragon...

[Celcius]

Woah...that's one nice OC!
Do you know what cooling was used?

[Serge84]

Woah...that's one nice OC!
Do you know what cooling was used?

I wish I could read japanese. But my guess is air. Semprons run too cool to need anything more then that. Somebody here has a Sempron 64 2800+ at 3.2ghz on air. And the new athlon 64 3000+ S754 venices run alot cooler at 3ghz on air even better then the semprons.

[Lestat]

serge the HTT on those dont even go that high does it ?

the HTT only goes to 400 right ?

i knwo the 754 tforce is WAY better than the 939, the 939 wasnt that great thats one of the reasons why they reired it and came out with the M3 version or M1 version or whatever it was.

i miss my old clawhammer so much,, gaming and such hell,, it killed my venice

[Serge84]

serge the HTT on those dont even go that high does it ?

the HTT only goes to 400 right ?

i knwo the 754 tforce is WAY better than the 939, the 939 wasnt that great thats one of the reasons why they reired it and came out with the M3 version or M1 version or whatever it was.

i miss my old clawhammer so much,, gaming and such hell,, it killed my venice

Tforce6100-754 OCing options... 02 bios

CPU 200 to 450htt, memory 100/133/166/200/216/233/250htt devider, 1x/2x/3x/4x/5x hypertransport upto 1000 x2 = 2000mhz yes this IS the 754 Tforce6100 lol I Oced it to 2800mhz hypertransport so far stable for months, volts 0.1 to 1.8v vcore, 2.5v to 3.3v DIMM, around 12 to 15 memory timmings, PCI-E 100 to 145htt, Dog timmings 31, max cpu multiplyer 25x min multiplyer 4x. They just keep adding more to it, its still a bata bios. They plan on adding chipset volts, and hyper transport volts from what I hear.

Very very good board.

[oicurafox2000]

Thanks for the info Serge84. Just ordered the Biostar TForce 6100 from the egg. My +2800 Sempron64 maxes out at ~2.7GHz because my max HTT on my DFi,ChainTech,and Asus boards all max out before my Sempy even breaks a sweat. My +2800 hits 2.7GHz on stock volts.

Should have results by the end of the week.

[s7e9h3n]

I wish I could read japanese.

Lol...that's Chinese....too bad I can't read Chinese though.....

[kiwi]

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[UTF Nightmare]

Lol...that's Chinese....too bad I can't read Chinese though.....

Lol how do you see this is Chinese

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Nice OC for 754 en prolly aircooling. How could this be

[Serge84]

Thanks for the info Serge84. Just ordered the Biostar TForce 6100 from the egg. My +2800 Sempron64 maxes out at ~2.7GHz because my max HTT on my DFi,ChainTech,and Asus boards all max out before my Sempy even breaks a sweat. My +2800 hits 2.7GHz on stock volts.

Should have results by the end of the week.

Great, btw remember to get the Bios 02. That has the updated features as I described. The older ones are more bata and have less options say the one it comes with.

[fr@me]

Serge84
What max Vchip for Biostar?
All this mobos can do 426 FSB?

[Serge84]

Serge84
What max Vchip for Biostar?
All this mobos can do 426 FSB?

Reads wrong in bios Vcore 1.8v setting gives a reading of 1.725v in bios and anything else. Real volts using a hand voltage readout say its 1.78v. Stock is abit off as well. Somethings wacked out with the Voltage reader is its only prob. Off by between .25 at lower volts and off by .5 at higher volts. Max FSB is 450. Will prob maxout any CPU before the mobo does as what many ppl who have this board say. If somebody would use a FX in this thing we may see 500FSB with a clockgen OC.

Vchip is really capabile of alot more if modding was done to take control of it. Caps are really nice DFI quality type alluminum elctro. Most stable mobo I ever used.

[cmay119]

Is this board fully able to give 3.3v DRAM Voltage without adjusting the 3.3v rail on the PSU or DDR Booster?

I know with the DFI 250Gb I can't even use 3.2v with no adjustments to the rail as it's far too unstable.

Was wondering if BIOSTAR found a way to deliver all of that without having to adjust rails.

[Fr3ak]

The vdimm goes up to 2.9V and with a jumper 3.3V, but there is no in between. Havent tested it yet, so I cant tell if its 3.3v as vcore and chipset voltage is a lot lower than it should be.
Btw Serge there wont be a S754 bios with adjustable chipset voltage.. I emailed BioStar and they said that its not possible to change chipset voltage on the 754 version. My chipset voltage reads only 1.14V instead of 1.2 :/
My board seems to max out at anything above 311mhz Htt
And it doesnt like many ram sticks. I testet about 8 different sticks and I could only oc it to 311 with 2 sticks (only 1 stick in dimm1), with the other sticks it maxed out at 250-270mhz htt. :/ I will be getting another tforce, hopefully that one is a better clocker.I dont think that my sempron is already at its limits, cos I am only at 1.45V and its the same with 1.7V.
Its still a good board, but for me it looks like its a hit and miss :/

[Shadowmage]

What about the s939 Semprons? Would OC be about the same for those?

[Serge84]

The vdimm goes up to 2.9V and with a jumper 3.3V, but there is no in between. Havent tested it yet, so I cant tell if its 3.3v as vcore and chipset voltage is a lot lower than it should be.
Btw Serge there wont be a S754 bios with adjustable chipset voltage.. I emailed BioStar and they said that its not possible to change chipset voltage on the 754 version. My chipset voltage reads only 1.14V instead of 1.2 :/
My board seems to max out at anything above 311mhz Htt
And it doesnt like many ram sticks. I testet about 8 different sticks and I could only oc it to 311 with 2 sticks (only 1 stick in dimm1), with the other sticks it maxed out at 250-270mhz htt. :/ I will be getting another tforce, hopefully that one is a better clocker.I dont think that my sempron is already at its limits, cos I am only at 1.45V and its the same with 1.7V.
Its still a good board, but for me it looks like its a hit and miss :/

I aready explained this, but the readings in the bios are wrong, the real volts are higher then read by the voltage chip that calculates and reads volts. Its off by .25 on low volts and .5 on higher volts. 1.5v and lower it reads .25 lower. Above its .5 higher about. 1.4v will read as 1.37v and 1.8v will read as 1.725v but really be running at around 1.78v in real volts. Only prob with the biostar board is it misscalculates volts and maybe afew other things.

Nope the 1st bios has voltage settings for the chipset. I can get a modded ver of it too. And no your semprons memory controller is just really bad. No matter how much Tforces you get you'll never see a difference. You need another sempron with a better memory controller. Don't blame the board because its not at fault, many ppl who have this board get way above 311. Avrage is 350 and 380 witch is most semprons limits some have much better memory controlers that can get 400+. Its the luck of the draw your sempron had a very bad memory controler

[Serge84]

Is this board fully able to give 3.3v DRAM Voltage without adjusting the 3.3v rail on the PSU or DDR Booster?

I know with the DFI 250Gb I can't even use 3.2v with no adjustments to the rail as it's far too unstable.

Was wondering if BIOSTAR found a way to deliver all of that without having to adjust rails.

Yes some here have done that. Upto 3.5v I have seen. It has better rails then the DFI board. Its way newer and has a better voltage regulater then most boards. Equal to the higher end DFI boards that cost 200 bucks.

I will use a new PSU or OCZ booster for this as some here and in other forums told me to use and as others have used. I would not have BH-UTT ram if I couldn't. A OCZ booster will work as well. A adjustable powersupply or a OCZ booster WILL work inbetween 3v and 3.3v and above. Tested upto 3.5v so far.

[Fr3ak]

Ok send me that bios too as soon as you get it.
I wanna see if someone can do what the board designers cant do.

I will be getting another Sempron then to see if it makes any change.

[cmay119]

Yes some here have done that. Upto 3.5v I have seen. It has better rails then the DFI board. Its way newer and has a better voltage regulater then most boards. Equal to the higher end DFI boards that cost 200 bucks.

I will use a new PSU or OCZ booster for this as some here and in other forums told me to use and as others have used. I would not have BH-UTT ram if I couldn't. A OCZ booster will work as well. A adjustable powersupply or a OCZ booster WILL work inbetween 3v and 3.3v and above. Tested upto 3.5v so far.

I know all ram is different, and your mileage may vary. But what's a typical overclock on UTT-BH5 with clean 3.3v supplied to the dimms? Do you think DDR440 2-2-2-5 is achieveable? Possibly more?

I know this is a n00b question, but whenever I see testing done on dimms such as these, the DRAM voltage is always in the 3.4v+ range. So I've never seen real results at that particular voltage.

Thanks.

EDIT: Whoops. Serge, I didn't realize at the time that you were using the G. Skill GH sticks as well. Are your OC results typical, or extraordinary for the volts you're pumpin' into 'em? Thanks again.

[Fr3ak]

I have utt-ch5 and they do 255 2 2 2 5 7 16 at 3.2V and bh5 need less volts for those timings in general, so 3.3v (or 3.2V whatever the reading is) should be fine. But remember: Using both dimms on a s754 is a whole different story.

[cmay119]

Apart from the Dual Channel, how much of a difference in MHz performance am I looking at? Wouldn't dual channel actually be more strenuous on the DIMMs than single channel?

[Fr3ak]

Do you wanna get the s754 or s 939 board? There is no dc with s754..

With 2 sticks I couldnt get past 285 and with a single stick I am stuck at 311. But those numbers may vary depending on ram, cpu and board.

[caligula]

I've just fiddled a bit with the BIOS on the site - now you have DDR 183 unlocked for pretty good RAM to use. Try at your own risk! I haven't tested it yet...
Get it from here.
Nevertheless, ppl with low multis and cheap memory won't get to use it since both memory and HTT go over 300MHz
Please post here the chipset voltage enabled bios...

[Serge84]

I've just fiddled a bit with the BIOS on the site - now you have DDR 183 unlocked for pretty good RAM to use. Try at your own risk! I haven't tested it yet...
Get it from here.
Nevertheless, ppl with low multis and cheap memory won't get to use it since both memory and HTT go over 300MHz
Please post here the chipset voltage enabled bios...

Your saying this is a moded new bios that has chipset voltage enabled? I have bios 602. How old is the chipset-v enabled bios?

[caligula]

Took almost all the Tforce6100 S754 bioses with MODBIN, no chipset voltage setting. Thought that there is one...
Looked also in the TF6100-939 bios, no hope. I will definitely go for DFI NF4X, almost same price, no onboard video card (but I don't need it), lots of memory controller timings and voltages. Definitely the choice for s754/PCIe.