Kingston SSDNow S100 16Gb $55 230MB/s

[F@32]

Anyone knows what controller it is based on? Any 4K IOps? I think this is potentially a contender for a top $/performance spot for 8-port RAID controller owners

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820139428

[Ao1]

I think it uses the JMF616. These drives are targted for non-PC applications.

[Computurd]

i would like to see that device tested. that would make a awesome low cost array for onboards

[F@32]

i would like to see that device tested. that would make a awesome low cost array for onboards

I think it's the best $/MBPS deal. I don't care that it's only 16g. Potentially we are talking about 1840MB/s for only $440 Throw on 9240-8i and wow...

[Computurd]

yeah the 4k random would tell the tale, but also the GC on that drive, how good it is would be key as well. outside of arrays it would be useless so it would have to have killer gc, like the idilinx. i still dont believe there is a better GC than the idilinx i dont care what device you speak of. hell the SF drives have horrible GC.

[F@32]

yeah the 4k random would tell the tale, but also the GC on that drive, how good it is would be key as well. outside of arrays it would be useless so it would have to have killer gc, like the idilinx. i still dont believe there is a better GC than the idilinx i dont care what device you speak of. hell the SF drives have horrible GC.

All true... JMF controllers didn't shine in the past, but some review sites seem to be fond of 616 (e.g. Adata S596).

[Ao1]

According to Anandtech the Kingston SSDNowV+100 (Toshiba T6UG1XBG) has really agressive GC, so it should therfore be really good for a raid array if you need sustained throughput. (Albiet at a price premium).

I've looked everywhere for the 4k performance of the SSDNow S100 but can't find it. Kingston's web site calims "they’re ideal for non-PC applications from gaming and casinos to digital signage". They also use "commercial" grade NAND.

I'd be a bit wary of them without knowing 4k or sustained throughtput performance.

[F@32]

I'd be a bit wary of them without knowing 4k or sustained throughtput performance.

Aaaaand a sample drive is on its way Going to take one for the team, lol. Will report back on what it can do. If it's worthy - it's going to be in my ghetto raid. Highly suspicious on how many channels it has, and what kind of 4K RR it can do.

Cheers.

[Computurd]

excellent! this will be interesting
how goes the 9240 btw? i am eagerly awaiting word on that, i need another controller, and for once someone other than me is gonna test

[F@32]

excellent! this will be interesting
how goes the 9240 btw? i am eagerly awaiting word on that, i need another controller, and for once someone other than me is gonna test

Hey CT, 9240 will arrive probably late this/early next week. I won't have enough drives to see its limits, SF1222 drives were returned. With single S100 on its way and 2 X18-Ms I could potentially push 660MB/s. Anyway will be interesting how it stacks up vs 9260 w/o FP and SB850.

[keiths]

How is it better than their 64GB version? Slightly higher read, nearly 2x writes, 4x capacity for just 2x the price. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820139415 Missed a deal where they had them for $85. http://dealzon.com/deals/kingston-ssdnow-cheap

Here's several more in the same price range. http://diskcompare.com/item/5489/

Review of some of these low end ssds: http://www.techspot.com/review/313-budget-ssd-roundup/

[F@32]

How is it better than their 64GB version? Slightly higher read, nearly 2x writes, 4x capacity for just 2x the price. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820139415 Missed a deal where they had them for $85. http://dealzon.com/deals/kingston-ssdnow-cheap

Here's several more in the same price range. http://diskcompare.com/item/5489/

Review of some of these low end ssds: http://www.techspot.com/review/313-budget-ssd-roundup/

Side by side V100 is a better drive if taking capacity into consideration. For benchmarking, the one might argue that 2 of S100 are better than 1 V100. Theoretical 460MB/s sequential read vs 250. Now, consider the case when you want to build 8R0 array on a proper RAID controller and you will care about how much $ you will pay for throughput not necessarily $/Gb.

[keiths]

Ah, OK. On that basis, I would think the OCZ Vertex Series OCZSSD2-1VTX30G is a better deal; performs quite a bit better & ~2x capacity at just +$12 more per drive, for two to four drive RAID setups. I'd imagine more disks would be hitting interface limitation, negating single drive performance?

http://diskcompare.com/filter/?mis=&t=ssd&s=&p=100

[F@32]

Ah, OK. On that basis, I would think the OCZ Vertex Series OCZSSD2-1VTX30G is a better deal; performs quite a bit better & ~2x capacity at just +$12 more per drive, for two to four drive RAID setups. I'd imagine more disks would be hitting interface limitation, negating single drive performance?

http://diskcompare.com/filter/?mis=&t=ssd&s=&p=100

Vertex 2 is a better performer, yes. Not the original Barefoot one. I will know soon what kind of IOPs and sustained throughput S100 is capable of.

SB850 can do over 1Gb/s. So 5-6 SATA2 SSD drives is fine. LSI 9260 with FP key and Areca 1880 can do over 2Gb/s.

[keiths]

Ahem! Found a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2qQVtdTHsw

and the link in the clip is to a review with crystaldiskmark results: http://www.qk123.com/forum/thread-8198-1-1.html

http://translate.google.com/translat...n&hl=&ie=UTF-8


r/w
seq: 201.3/78
512k: 145.6/29.5
4k: 11.49/6.6
4k qd32: 27.85/7.329

[F@32]

Ahem! Found a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2qQVtdTHsw

and the link in the clip is to a review with crystaldiskmark results: http://www.qk123.com/forum/thread-8198-1-1.html

http://translate.google.com/translat...n&hl=&ie=UTF-8


r/w
seq: 201.3/78
512k: 145.6/29.5
4k: 11.49/6.6
4k qd32: 27.85/7.329

Great, thanks. The drive has very weak 4K numbers. The only use I could think of is to put Temp folder, browser cache and may be use it for ready boost Vertex 1 is a better drive.

[keiths]

Great, thanks. The drive has very weak 4K numbers. The only use I could think of is to put Temp folder, browser cache and may be use it for ready boost Vertex 1 is a better drive.

I haven't been paying attention to hardware in awhile, I take it 4k is key for Windows 7 performance?

Here's a review of the 30g vertex1 with crystaldiskmarks for single and 2x raid0:
http://translate.google.com/translat...n&hl=&ie=UTF-8

[F@32]

I haven't been paying attention to hardware in awhile, I take it 4k is key for Windows 7 performance?

Here's a review of the 30g vertex1 with crystaldiskmarks for single and 2x raid0:
http://translate.google.com/translat...n&hl=&ie=UTF-8

The reason 4K is a great OS drive performance indicator is that over 60% of file IO happen for files less than 64K in size. Big portion of those are around 4K in size. Thus rundom performance with that file size is very important. Right now Intel X-25M, RealSSD C300 and SF-1200 drivers offer the best 4K MB/s and IO/s. Sequential numbers are good for people who do image editing and audio/video recording/transcoding. Other than that they are not very important in a desktop environment.

Note that if you read through this thread http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=260956 it is evident that even Win7 and most apps are lagging at utilizing amazing disk performance that current crop of SSDs have to offer.

Thanks for the link, I had Vertex 1 in the past and compared S100 scores to my CDM and I saw that Vertex 1 is a better drive.

If you're willing to pay about $110-120 for SSD, RealSSD C300 64Gb is the best performer right now along with 40-50Gb SF-1200 based drives (F40, Vertex2, S599)

[keiths]

Last I heard, there was next gen mainstream SSDs coming supposed to do ~500MB/s, obviously late/not here yet. Six months to two years away for all I know.

[Computurd]

Sequential numbers are good for people who do image editing and audio/video recording/transcoding. Other than that they are not very important in a desktop environment.

gaming loads/access is roughly 70 percent sequential.

[stuffme]

How important 4k random read and write performance is in linux? 16GB would be more than sufficient for linux media PC and to think of it, even thought 4k read/write is only ~10MB/s, it's still around 10x the speed of conventional HDD.

[mbreslin]

stuffme, great question, this seems like the perfect fit for an xbmc-appliance type box. (with some nas in a different room)

[stuffme]

I have this drive now for testing and I will post the results soon. Could someone instructs me how to test the drive properly with iometer, so I don't post useless results?

This I can say already, the drive is very slow on writes, but reads it's quite fast for its price.

[newls1]

I have this drive....... STUTTERS like CRAZY. It was a XP64 boot drive, but couldn't stand the lag it had, so now Im using it as a game drive only for FarCry2.... Sucks for that too....