1) Normal ES: Available to partners and press before the product actually launches. These are usually close to retail parts, maybe one stepping/node before retails. From my experience (I've had access to AMD & Intel ES CPUs before the official launch around 8 years) normal ES CPUs are actually usually worse than retails because manufacturing process develops all the time and retails keep getting better. Every Phenom II press sample (not even marked as ES but couple weeks earlier than retail parts) I've tested so far have been worse than normal retails.
Bulldozer can't show up fast enough either. Bulldozer better live up to THIS: Image
It will either make history or make AMD history if it doesn't. Intel's thread count is getting higher than Fugger's bed sheets!
So its using S890 north bridge. Then is it also on 45nm or 40nm proses? (the sr5690)
Still what is that like 17mb of cache, or 19mb if it has 12mb of l3.
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PC1 AMD Phenom II X4 955 BE 3.2@3.895GHz+2665 MHz NB 1.485V with new BIOS, or 3.915GHz 2678MHz NB 1.5V = 24/7 and lower voltage (max 4264Hz with 1.485V and 4386 MHz 1.55V) CM Hyper 212, Gigabyte MA790X-UD4 F3 bios, 2x2GB Kingston Hyper X 1066MHz cl 5, 2x320GB HDD,ASUS HD5770 1024MB, saphire HD3870 512MB (1950pro 256Mb 610/1480MHz),Seasonic 500W+new Seasonic 650W Aspire X Cruiser, A4tech keyboard+mouse Razer deathadder ~ 4386MHz AIR
niw only Phenom X4 965 C3 coming soon -next week!(16.11.-21.11.)
Regarding L3 cache - my suspicion is HT Assist taking the difference from 12MB L3. I know that for S1207 you can select amount of L3 assigned to HTA from BIOS.
BTW 0nm process roxx
EDIT: One thing catching my attention is Cache associative for L3! 96-way??? That would mean it is shared between all cores it's double of what Deneb have. Can't wait for some more details of implementation
Thanks for the welcome back guys, although I must admit, I probably won't be hardcore benching for at least the time being as my work schedule doesn't really leave me too much time.....
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PC1 AMD Phenom II X4 955 BE 3.2@3.895GHz+2665 MHz NB 1.485V with new BIOS, or 3.915GHz 2678MHz NB 1.5V = 24/7 and lower voltage (max 4264Hz with 1.485V and 4386 MHz 1.55V) CM Hyper 212, Gigabyte MA790X-UD4 F3 bios, 2x2GB Kingston Hyper X 1066MHz cl 5, 2x320GB HDD,ASUS HD5770 1024MB, saphire HD3870 512MB (1950pro 256Mb 610/1480MHz),Seasonic 500W+new Seasonic 650W Aspire X Cruiser, A4tech keyboard+mouse Razer deathadder ~ 4386MHz AIR
niw only Phenom X4 965 C3 coming soon -next week!(16.11.-21.11.)
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PC1 AMD Phenom II X4 955 BE 3.2@3.895GHz+2665 MHz NB 1.485V with new BIOS, or 3.915GHz 2678MHz NB 1.5V = 24/7 and lower voltage (max 4264Hz with 1.485V and 4386 MHz 1.55V) CM Hyper 212, Gigabyte MA790X-UD4 F3 bios, 2x2GB Kingston Hyper X 1066MHz cl 5, 2x320GB HDD,ASUS HD5770 1024MB, saphire HD3870 512MB (1950pro 256Mb 610/1480MHz),Seasonic 500W+new Seasonic 650W Aspire X Cruiser, A4tech keyboard+mouse Razer deathadder ~ 4386MHz AIR
niw only Phenom X4 965 C3 coming soon -next week!(16.11.-21.11.)
And what about Bulldozer, some pre-test samples exists to time...
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PC1 AMD Phenom II X4 955 BE 3.2@3.895GHz+2665 MHz NB 1.485V with new BIOS, or 3.915GHz 2678MHz NB 1.5V = 24/7 and lower voltage (max 4264Hz with 1.485V and 4386 MHz 1.55V) CM Hyper 212, Gigabyte MA790X-UD4 F3 bios, 2x2GB Kingston Hyper X 1066MHz cl 5, 2x320GB HDD,ASUS HD5770 1024MB, saphire HD3870 512MB (1950pro 256Mb 610/1480MHz),Seasonic 500W+new Seasonic 650W Aspire X Cruiser, A4tech keyboard+mouse Razer deathadder ~ 4386MHz AIR
niw only Phenom X4 965 C3 coming soon -next week!(16.11.-21.11.)
Bulldozer can't show up fast enough either. Bulldozer better live up to THIS: Image
It will either make history or make AMD history if it doesn't. Intel's thread count is getting higher than Fugger's bed sheets!
Dude i'm so glad to see you back, the AMD section has not been the same since you and a few others "left". Welcome home.
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Originally Posted by Shintai
I still dont believe in a L3. It simply makes no sense when looking on the size and past history. Itanium only got a L3 due to the massive sizes of up to 24MB and soon 30MB. And I dont think anyone here on the board got access to a nehalem system, nor will have it for the next 3-6 months.
L3 is a step backwards for mainstream, not upwards.