Your suggested settings for Blackops Quad @450fsb benching

[blindfitter]

Guys,

I think it could be a good time for you to tell us some settings that will give us 450+ fsb on a quad core and 500+ on a dually.

The reason I consider this to be required is that this forum is rapidly becoming one of my blackops is not working as expected.

So time to come clean, you have the resources in the way of memory, cpu’s etc.

I have now been at my quad for 3 weeks with g26, g27 and now g28 none of which is giving a stable benching machine, by that I mean, set it up at say 440fsb 10 multi works fine, switch off, next day boot and it will not run at the settings it was happy with the day before.

I am on my 3rd PSU a Corsair 1000watt and now of the opinion that it is not a Psu issue.

Today I tried a dice session, failure, 400fsb 12.5 multi, boots goes to windows but fails system and 3dbenches,

I set up my Mars board; on dice 460fsb 11multi runs all benches without a problem.

It has been suggested that we sent our settings to you when having a problem; this is not a problem to me and would probably be very helpful.

If you could give me the Quantum force settings that should give me 450fsb on my quad QX9650, corsair 1800c7 ver3.1 memory corsair 1000watt psu, graphic cards have a few can be either pci ati9250 or pci-e 9800GX2.

Please include the voltage settings for use on water cooling, single stage, dice Ln2 will work out myself once I can get this baby sweet,

Thanks for reading, looking forward to benching @450fsb

[Pegazus]

I have the same issue. Waiting for respond too.

[rdrash]

Guys,

I think it could be a good time for you to tell us some settings that will give us 450+ fsb on a quad core and 500+ on a dually.

The reason I consider this to be required is that this forum is rapidly becoming one of my blackops is not working as expected.

So time to come clean, you have the resources in the way of memory, cpu’s etc.

I have now been at my quad for 3 weeks with g26, g27 and now g28 none of which is giving a stable benching machine, by that I mean, set it up at say 440fsb 10 multi works fine, switch off, next day boot and it will not run at the settings it was happy with the day before.

I am on my 3rd PSU a Corsair 1000watt and now of the opinion that it is not a Psu issue.

Today I tried a dice session, failure, 400fsb 12.5 multi, boots goes to windows but fails system and 3dbenches,

I set up my Mars board; on dice 460fsb 11multi runs all benches without a problem.

It has been suggested that we sent our settings to you when having a problem; this is not a problem to me and would probably be very helpful.

If you could give me the Quantum force settings that should give me 450fsb on my quad QX9650, corsair 1800c7 ver3.1 memory corsair 1000watt psu, graphic cards have a few can be either pci ati9250 or pci-e 9800GX2.

Please include the voltage settings for use on water cooling, single stage, dice Ln2 will work out myself once I can get this baby sweet,

Thanks for reading, looking forward to benching @450fsb

I haven't hit 450 yet but I did some good work at 444 so far using ln2. I'm on my second BO board as I killed one earlier (solely user induced death) and had to wait for a replacement to arrive. I can link you to a page here that has settings for 440ish but I bet you've already found that page.

Shoot me a pm if you need that link and I'll be glad

here are the setting I used:

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=383960

M/B: Foxconn Black OPS retail (Bios 7A3F1G28.BIN)
M/B Bed: Navig custom benchstation
CPU: QX9650 (L739A637)
CPU cooling: F1 Extreme Edition cpu pot + LN2 / Temp:-140c
Chipset Cooling: Water on north bridge
Memory: G.Skill DDR3 1800 F3-14400CL7D 2 x 1GB
VGA:HIS 3870X2 Crossfire-X
HDD:WD 74GB Raptor
PSU:Silverstone Strider 1000W

Vcore: 1.96V (1.375 x 1.575V = 2.1656V @BIOS)
Vcpu pll: 1.546582V @BIOS
Vcpu vtt: 1.650V@BIOS
Vnb: 1.625V @BIOS
Vsb: 1.688V@BIOS
Vdimm: 2.210V @BIOS
MEM: 1:2 CPU400
CL7-7-7-18, 1T, Performance Level=6, Auto for the rest in BIOS

OS: Windows Vista Ultimate
Others: FSB440(x 13)@boot, set FSb increase to 444 for the cpuz shot, used 442 for superpi 1m run.
ambient temp 23c.

[saaya]

If you could give me the Quantum force settings that should give me 450fsb on my quad QX9650, corsair 1800c7 ver3.1 memory corsair 1000watt psu, graphic cards have a few can be either pci ati9250 or pci-e 9800GX2.

Please include the voltage settings for use on water cooling, single stage, dice Ln2 will work out myself once I can get this baby sweet

there isnt ONE list of settings that is magically going to make it work for everybody... every system overclocks slightly different...

But yeah, its usefull to have a list of settings that work for others, and i was thinking of making one, combined with a guide on how to oc the system. Lists of settings that work at high speed are aleady available in the big blackops thread where several people posted their settings. Ill see if i can collect some of them and post them in one thread

very impressive results rdrash!
thanks a lot for sharing your settings

[blindfitter]

Hi rdrash,

For Sure, have tried all the published settings I can find, plus the standard overclocking procedure.

My setting are identical to yours, except Vcpu vtt: 1.650V @ BIOS, I have been advised not to go beyond 1.300v as this will kill the quad in a matter of hours.

So, can I have some more information on this Vcpu vtt setting, because if that’s all that’s stopping me going forward with this board, please let me and others know.

Vcore voltage seems to be stuck at 1.75, if I go 1.78volts (phase or Dice) board will not boot, relays wont latch, drop back to 1.75 and will boot, is their a safety feature kicking in?

[saaya]

i dont think more than 1.3v vtt kills cpus, i know some people reported that, but i think it was something else that killed the cpus, or the cpu was damaged because they ran much higher vtt than that before settling for 1.3v, or vtt was unstable, or vtt was bound to vmch and that was the problem... i think on some boards you shouldnt use more vt than vmch or else it might damage the cpu or something? i think that was on gigabyte boards, but im not sure.

and dont forget your using a 45nm cpu, which means setting 1.3v in bios will results in 1.2v.
vt is crucial in reaching high fsb speeds, unless you wanna fiddle with cpu gtl, and even then you will need high vtt to reach high fsb speeds with a quad.
and fsb seems to be your problem, you cant get all cores stable at a high fsb, right?

about vcore, could be that your cpu just doesnt like more vcore?
there shouldnt be any safety features... lots of people run 2v without issues for benching on ln2.
what psu are you using?
what do you mean with relays wont latch?

[rdrash]

Hi rdrash,

For Sure, have tried all the published settings I can find, plus the standard overclocking procedure.

My setting are identical to yours, except Vcpu vtt: 1.650V @ BIOS, I have been advised not to go beyond 1.300v as this will kill the quad in a matter of hours.

So, can I have some more information on this Vcpu vtt setting, because if that’s all that’s stopping me going forward with this board, please let me and others know.

Vcore voltage seems to be stuck at 1.75, if I go 1.78volts (phase or Dice) board will not boot, relays wont latch, drop back to 1.75 and will boot, is their a safety feature kicking in?

Are you setting the vdroop compensation to on (enabled) in the BIOS? I left that at disabled...

[blindfitter]

i dont think more than 1.3v vtt kills cpus, i know some people reported that, but i think it was something else that killed the cpus, or the cpu was damaged because they ran much higher vtt than that before settling for 1.3v, or vtt was unstable, or vtt was bound to vmch and that was the problem... i think on some boards you shouldnt use more vt than vmch or else it might damage the cpu or something? i think that was on gigabyte boards, but im not sure.

and dont forget your using a 45nm cpu, which means setting 1.3v in bios will results in 1.2v.
vt is crucial in reaching high fsb speeds, unless you wanna fiddle with cpu gtl, and even then you will need high vtt to reach high fsb speeds with a quad.
and fsb seems to be your problem, you cant get all cores stable at a high fsb, right?

about vcore, could be that your cpu just doesnt like more vcore?
there shouldnt be any safety features... lots of people run 2v without issues for benching on ln2.
what psu are you using?
what do you mean with relays wont latch?

i dont think more than 1.3v vtt kills cpus, i know some people reported that, but i think it was something else that killed the cpus, or the cpu was damaged because they ran much higher vtt than that before settling for 1.3v, or vtt was unstable, or vtt was bound to vmch and that was the problem... i think on some boards you shouldnt use more vt than vmch or else it might damage the cpu or something? i think that was on gigabyte boards, but im not sure.

Saaya, would appreciate qualification on the above, don’t want to prove you wrong at my expense.

and dont forget your using a 45nm cpu, which means setting 1.3v in bios will results in 1.2v.

Yes I am aware of that issue, so again clarification as to acceptable voltage setting.

vt is crucial in reaching high fsb speeds, unless you wanna fiddle with cpu gtl, and even then you will need high vtt to reach high fsb speeds with a quad.

Yes, I am aware of increased are required, some numbers please that will give results.

and fsb seems to be your problem, you cant get all cores stable at a high fsb, right?

Not shure on this, just want to run the cpu at 5200mhz on dice with this board as I can on other motherboards I have, so I can bench a pair of 3870’s I have awaiting benching, because Blackops has pci-e 16 lanes for both cards, where as the Mars is restricted to 1 @ 16 and 1 @ 4. again this setup of 5200Mhz on the Mars is easy, any time.

about vcore, could be that your cpu just doesnt like more vcore?

Will test out later, will borrow a Qx9650 and try for you.

there shouldnt be any safety features... lots of people run 2v without issues for benching on ln2.

Yes, I have seen the results, I also want to do it.

what psu are you using?

Corsair 1000Hx

what do you mean with relays wont latch?

Fans run only, should have got the code, my mistake sorry

[blindfitter]

Are you setting the vdroop compensation to on (enabled) in the BIOS? I left that at disabled...

It is set to:

Enabled, when on phase or Dice

[rdrash]

It is set to:

Enabled, when on phase or Dice

Can you try with it diasabled the next time you go cold and up the volts? I am certain I left the vdroop compensation disabled...droop isn't such a bad thing as many people would lead you to believe (I know there people in both schools of thought and I don't want to start an argument)....you can mentally compensate for the droop and add a touch more voltage.

[blindfitter]

Here is a pic of what i achieved on water cooling, when learning the board, before going cold.

I was well pleased, and thought the results would come with adding vcore upping the mult, slight drop in fsb and going cooold:

[rdrash]

That looks pretty good.

Can you post up all of your BIOS settings?

I'll take a look and see if there is anything I can suggest you try differently...could just be one little setting that is holding you back?

[blindfitter]

Can you try with it diasabled the next time you go cold and up the volts? I am certain I left the vdroop compensation disabled...droop isn't such a bad thing as many people would lead you to believe (I know there people in both schools of thought and I don't want to start an argument)....you can mentally compensate for the droop and add a touch more voltage.

Will do my friend,

Looks like I'll be puting it back on the bench for testing later today, will do as you suggested, will also push the vcore higher to see if where it wont boot, then try a bit more to see if theirs a hole! or something.

Will also note the lcd no. for Saaya.

Still not happy with pushing 1.65volts thorough the vtt, your the only on rdrash I've seen that high.

Hopefully be back later today with results,

[blindfitter]

That looks pretty good.

Can you post up all of your BIOS settings?

I'll take a look and see if there is anything I can suggest you try differently...could just be one little setting that is holding you back?

they were cptPlanets settings, at the start of thread:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=187199

[GTFouts]

I personally dont know what all the worry is about this 1.3v max on a QX is. I think thats a pile of BUNK! I've been running my QX9650 at 1.45+ for months and it still cooks right along. I have no scientific proof of course, just practicle exp......shrug

Here are my settings which should be kinda close for you.


Quantum BIOS Version G28

Overclock Phase Select - Manual O.C.
CPU Clock Ratio - 9x
CPU Clock Ratio +0.5 - Disabled
Target CPU Core Speed - 4053 MHz
CPU Clock (FSB) - 450 MHz
CPU Clock vs Memory Speed - 1:4 CPU333
System Memory Speed - 1800 MHz
CPU Clock Skew Control - 0 ps
CPU Clock Amplitude CTRL - 800mV
PCI Express Clock - 100MHz
PCI Clock - 33.6 MHz
Spread Spectrum - Disabled
Overclock Recovery - Enabled

All Voltage Control

CPU Voltage Multiplier - x1.000
CPU Voltage Setting - 1.4750
CPU Vdroop Compensation - Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage Setting - 1.584304
CPU VTT Voltage Setting - 1.350
CPU GTL Ref. 0 Voltage - +10
CPU GTL Ref. 1 Voltage - +5
CPU GTL Ref. 2 Voltage - +10
CPU GTL Ref. 3 Voltage - +10
NB Voltage Setting - 1.673
NB GTL Ref. Voltage - +3
SB Voltage Setting - 1.538
DRAM Voltage Setting - 2.044
DRAM Pull-up Voltage - +3
DRAM Pull-down Voltage - +3
DRAM Ref. Voltage - +3

Memory Timing Config

ECC Scrubbing - Disabled
DRAM Timing Selectable - Manual
CAS Latency Time - 7
RAS# to CAS# Delay - 7
RAS# Precharge - 7
Precharge Delay - 20
Row Refresh Cycle - Auto
Performance Level - 6
Write to Precharge - Auto
Write to Read Delay - Auto
Act to Act Delay - Auto
Read to Precharge - Auto
All Precharge to Refresh - Auto
Refresh Period Ratio - x1
Refresh Period - Auto
Command Per Clock - 1T
R2RD Same Rank - Auto
R2RD Different Rank - Auto
W2RD Same Rank - Auto
W2RD Different Rank - Auto
FSB Gain 1 - Auto
FSB Gain 2 - Auto
FSB Gain 3 - Auto
FSB Gain 4 - Auto
Blue DIMM Clock DLL Adjust - Auto
White DIMM Clock DLL Adjust - Auto
Blue DIMM Ctrl DLL Adjust - Auto
White DIMM Ctrl DLL Adjust - Auto
DRAM Command DLL Adjust - Auto

[sashin]

Guys,

I think it could be a good time for you to tell us some settings that will give us 450+ fsb on a quad core and 500+ on a dually.

The reason I consider this to be required is that this forum is rapidly becoming one of my blackops is not working as expected.

So time to come clean, you have the resources in the way of memory, cpu’s etc.

I have now been at my quad for 3 weeks with g26, g27 and now g28 none of which is giving a stable benching machine, by that I mean, set it up at say 440fsb 10 multi works fine, switch off, next day boot and it will not run at the settings it was happy with the day before.

I am on my 3rd PSU a Corsair 1000watt and now of the opinion that it is not a Psu issue.

Today I tried a dice session, failure, 400fsb 12.5 multi, boots goes to windows but fails system and 3dbenches,

I set up my Mars board; on dice 460fsb 11multi runs all benches without a problem.

It has been suggested that we sent our settings to you when having a problem; this is not a problem to me and would probably be very helpful.

If you could give me the Quantum force settings that should give me 450fsb on my quad QX9650, corsair 1800c7 ver3.1 memory corsair 1000watt psu, graphic cards have a few can be either pci ati9250 or pci-e 9800GX2.

Please include the voltage settings for use on water cooling, single stage, dice Ln2 will work out myself once I can get this baby sweet,

Thanks for reading, looking forward to benching @450fsb

Ditto....but for Cellshock 1866 memory kits...

[rdrash]

Will do my friend,

Looks like I'll be puting it back on the bench for testing later today, will do as you suggested, will also push the vcore higher to see if where it wont boot, then try a bit more to see if theirs a hole! or something.

Will also note the lcd no. for Saaya.

Still not happy with pushing 1.65volts thorough the vtt, your the only on rdrash I've seen that high.

Hopefully be back later today with results,

Looks like GTFouts's settings should be a good starting point for you as well.....stick with it man, The Black Ops is really a great board. I've had an ASUS P5E3 Premium and the Giga-byte GA-X48T-DQ6...I like the Black Ops the best of the three x48s I've played with so far.

Team Japan is where I got the info on which settings to start with...in particular I liked what NewBeetle-san did here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...0&postcount=76

so I just tweaked his settings a little to fit my circumstances...worked like a charm. Used very smilar settings on my first BO baord before I blew up the board (condensation..my fault) I did this with that board:

[saaya]

Saaya, would appreciate qualification on the above, don’t want to prove you wrong at my expense.

there are dozens to hundreds of people running more than 1.3v vtt and nobody i know has killed a cpu with high vtt for sure. maybe one or two guys with insane vtt... but 1.4v and 1.5v should be fine... i cant prove this tho... so sure, if you dont wanna risk anything and stay low, stay low...

and dont forget your using a 45nm cpu, which means setting 1.3v in bios will results in 1.2v.

Yes I am aware of that issue, so again clarification as to acceptable voltage setting.

i wouldnt call it an issue, but ok...

vt is crucial in reaching high fsb speeds, unless you wanna fiddle with cpu gtl, and even then you will need high vtt to reach high fsb speeds with a quad.

Yes, I am aware of increased are required, some numbers please that will give results.

dont get what you mean...sorry

what do you mean with relays wont latch?

Fans run only, should have got the code, my mistake sorry

no problem

I personally dont know what all the worry is about this 1.3v max on a QX is. I think thats a pile of BUNK! I've been running my QX9650 at 1.45+ for months and it still cooks right along. I have no scientific proof of course, just practicle exp......shrug

well... if your cpu can run it that doesnt mean all can... but yeah... i have only heard of one cpu that died... and it was an ES cpu...and it was supposedly vtt, but how can you know for sure? and even if vtt killed it, it was ES so it doesnt necessarily apply to retail chips... and even then, some batches might be more sensitive and some less, like some 45nm batches were really sensitive to vcore even if you kept them cool, while the new batches can run high vcore even when they get hot, and still they dont die or degrade...

and all the other cpus that supposedly died from vtt... i heard of it but thats not from ocers but some system builder wasnt it? so on one system config several cpus died... again, even if you could be sure it was vtt, it could be a board issue or psu issue or cpu batch issue or whatnot... the fact that barely any ocer has reported a dead cpu after using high vtt is proof enough for me to think YES you can probabaly kill a cpu with high vtt, but 1.4v and 1.5v should be fine, and for benching maybe even more...

then again, if you want to be really sure, i guess its best to keep vtt low, but 1.4v should be safe even for 24/7 with any cpu

thanks a lot for posting your settings btw!

[sashin]

Doesn't anybody on this forum use the Blue Cellshock kits with a quadcore..............everybody here uses Corsair Dominators !!! I went out and purchased these so called great modules..........but cannot get it to run at anything above 400 fsb and multi 10...have tried to leave everything on auto on the memory side ............ system will not boot. I have tried to use Cpt planet settings but no go also...system will not boot. I note that GTFouts settings above but he also uses Corsair modules. C'mon there must be some one in this forum using Cellshock and quadcore and getting above 400 fsb on this mobo... Anyone??

[rdrash]

sashin,

my set of 1866 Blues are on their way....I had to order them from a site in Ireland and I am in South Korea...may be awhile before they arrive.

So I'll be able to let you know if I can get similar results with the CellShock.

here is a guy with the 1800's and he's doing really well: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=193778

can you post up all your BIOS settings maybe we can help you get your memory to where you want? Generally the X48 chipsets take some time and effort to get "dialed in".

[sashin]

sashin,

my set of 1866 Blues are on their way....I had to order them from a site in Ireland and I am in South Korea...may be awhile before they arrive.

So I'll be able to let you know if I can get similar results with the CellShock.

here is a guy with the 1800's and he's doing really well: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=193778

can you post up all your BIOS settings maybe we can help you get your memory to where you want? Generally the X48 chipsets take some time and effort to get "dialed in".

OK will do that later this afternoon/evening

[rdrash]

OK will do that later this afternoon/evening

Yes please do... we may be able to assist you if you help us help you

...Blindfitter is now up and runnin and gunnin for Hwbot points

[blindfitter]

Hi Guys,

I am extremely please to report I have now got the BlackOps running as I always thought it should. I had always believed in this board, although my enthusiasm did wane through the process, I now have new vigour to the next level in overclocking this challenging motherboard

What was my problem: Vtt, I say again, Vtt

I stacked up a bucketful of hours sorting this, and in the end it was this little gem, vtt

Once I adjusted the vtt = 1.500 I was stable in the 450fsb range.
I then quickly ran some 3D benches using 3870’s in crossfire, and was pleasantly rewarded.
Here’s a 2006 shot.


Now to tweak the system:

I would like to thank everyone here and the many PM’s I received helping me sort this, I know I probably rattled a few cages, but you came through: I could not have done it without your help

Thanks to all,

I still think there is room for discussion on the voltages of this board, but perhaps someone will take that up in a new thread.

My settings used:
Quantum BIOS Version G28

Overclock Phase Select - Manual O.C.
CPU Clock Ratio - 10x
CPU Clock Ratio +0.5 - Enabled
Target CPU Core Speed - 4620 MHz
CPU Clock (FSB) - 440 MHz
CPU Clock vs Memory Speed - 1:4 CPU333
System Memory Speed - 1760 MHz
CPU Clock Skew Control - 200 ps
CPU Clock Amplitude CTRL - 800mV
PCI Express Clock - 101MHz
PCI Clock - 33.6 MHz
Spread Spectrum - Disabled
Overclock Recovery - Disabled

All Voltage Control

CPU Voltage Multiplier - x1.075
CPU Voltage Setting – 1.512
CPU Vdroop Compensation - Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage Setting - 1.546582
CPU VTT Voltage Setting - 1.575
CPU GTL Ref. 0 Voltage -
CPU GTL Ref. 1 Voltage -
CPU GTL Ref. 2 Voltage -
CPU GTL Ref. 3 Voltage -
NB Voltage Setting - 1.718
NB GTL Ref. Voltage -
SB Voltage Setting - 1.688
DRAM Voltage Setting – 1.933
DRAM Pull-up Voltage -
DRAM Pull-down Voltage -
DRAM Ref. Voltage -

Memory Timing Config

ECC Scrubbing - Disabled
DRAM Timing Selectable - Manual
CAS Latency Time - 7
RAS# to CAS# Delay - 6
RAS# Precharge - 5
Precharge Delay - 18
Row Refresh Cycle - 48
Performance Level - 6
Write to Precharge - 16
Write to Read Delay - 17
Act to Act Delay - 5
Read to Precharge - 5
All Precharge to Refresh - Auto
Refresh Period Ratio - x1
Refresh Period - Auto
Command Per Clock - 1T
R2RD Same Rank - Auto
R2RD Different Rank - Auto
W2RD Same Rank - Auto
W2RD Different Rank - Auto
FSB Gain 1 - Auto
FSB Gain 2 - Auto
FSB Gain 3 - Auto
FSB Gain 4 - Auto
Blue DIMM Clock DLL Adjust - Auto
White DIMM Clock DLL Adjust - Auto
Blue DIMM Ctrl DLL Adjust - Auto
White DIMM Ctrl DLL Adjust - Auto
DRAM Command DLL Adjust - Auto

Please advise on any adjustments I should make, to improve this board.

[T_M]

Yeah of course, chicken little has been spreading this VTT rumour.
Im happily running 1.63-1.65 VTT through both QX9770 and E8400 on air (different board though)

[saaya]

Doesn't anybody on this forum use the Blue Cellshock kits with a quadcore..............everybody here uses Corsair Dominators !!! I went out and purchased these so called great modules..........but cannot get it to run at anything above 400 fsb and multi 10...have tried to leave everything on auto on the memory side ............ system will not boot. I have tried to use Cpt planet settings but no go also...system will not boot. I note that GTFouts settings above but he also uses Corsair modules. C'mon there must be some one in this forum using Cellshock and quadcore and getting above 400 fsb on this mobo... Anyone??

there is ZERO difference in running memory with a quad or with a dualcore cpu... zero
the only difference is that you have a much harder time to reach high fsb speds with a quad compared to a dualcore, and youll never reach the same fsb with a quad as with a dualcore.
to check if your problem is cpu or fsb related, use the 6x cpu multiplier and check how high you can get the fsb with the 1:2 memory divider
if you cant get a high fsb, then your cpu limited and need to work on that before you can reach high memory clocks. the most important thing is vcore, then vtt, then comes pll voltage, nb voltage and cpu gtl settings.

congrats on your results blindfitter!!!

rdrash, you ordered from memoryc?
they ship prety fast
should be with you within a week, the express option works blazing fast, some people in the US baught in the morning (UK time) and received the memory the next day