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Old 02-28-2007, 10:04 AM   #1
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Lightbulb G.Skill F2 6400CL5D 2GBNQ - testing

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=21164

I can't find much info on these kits, so I decided I'll share my results.

This time around I decided to not spend money on high end parts until I was comfortable enough with this. My last 3 or 4 expensive kits were all OCZ, so I decided to try stuff I have never tried before. I got this stuff on sale for about $220 CDN which is about $190 USD. Is it worth the money? Lets find out.

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Sticks are rated 400Mhz 5-5-5-15 @ 1.8v.

Starting with the basics: 400MHz 4-4-4-13 @ 1.9v


Not bad. 100% stable too.


Something more interesting: 450MHz 4-4-4-13 @ 2.1v


DDR900 and appears to be very stable. Can't say 100%, but it looks good. Here is another run, maybe this one is bugged?



This one is for fun: 460MHz 4-4-4-13 @ 2.1v


Unstable. I got a shot at 465MHz but windows rebooted when I opened paint.


This is another suicide shot, but at 470MHz 4-5-4-13 @ 2.1v


My highest 100% stable FSB appears to be this for now (6x multi - 464MHz):


Is it worth it? I have no idea, you tell me . As far as performance goes, I think from 400Mhz 5-5-5-15 to 470MHz 4-5-4-13 is not a bad deal. My 24/7 will most likely be 450MHz 4-4-4-13.

Perhaps someone here can figure out what kind of ICs these have from the information I have given? It would be nice to know.

Also check out: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=134982 - much better results and someone said PROMOS.


Random notes:
  • tRAS appears to make a huge difference when it comes to max FSB. When set to 12 I get no post with any timings. Maybe its a DS3 thing, but it looked like it was tied in with the sb.
  • More than 2.1v resulted in nothing.
  • MCH voltage was at 1.3v.. 1.2v was only sufficient up to 440MHz.
  • I had to keep PCI-E freq at 104MHz for 430MHz+ and 105MHz for 450MHz+. This one has got to be a DS3 issue.
  • CAS5 allowed for a much lower FSB than CAS4. I could boot upto 485MHz on CAS4, CAS5 is no where near that.
  • I would test more, but vdroop is much too great for now.
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Old 02-28-2007, 11:04 AM   #2
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Do you know what rev # your DS3 is?
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Old 02-28-2007, 11:22 AM   #3
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Old 02-28-2007, 01:22 PM   #4
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Is it worth it? I have no idea, you tell me . As far as performance goes, I think from 400Mhz 5-5-5-15 to 470MHz 4-5-4-13 is not a bad deal. My 24/7 will most likely be 450MHz 4-4-4-13.

Perhaps someone here can figure out what kind of ICs these have from the information I have given? It would be nice to know.

Also check out: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=134982 - much better results and someone said PROMOS.


as-sa-la-mu-a-lai-gom ahmad ,Yah... it's PROMOS chip same you think, and my result on P5B-Deluxe is i can run maximum at 1000MHz CL 5-5-5-15 , 2.45V Vdimm. Well.. i think it some choice for value memory is not bad

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Actually there is NO NEED for 164 phases that companies put in nowadays mobos....
FOUR (4) are enough with nowadays materials and maybe SIX (6) with the upcoming Gulftowns....
The 1024 phases is a "marketing trick" nowadays....
You will buy MY mobo because I put 2048 phases in my motherboard....

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Old 02-28-2007, 08:10 PM   #5
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Walaikum Assalam

Hey you got much better results than me too. Thats great to see. I think I need to do more tweaking.
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Old 03-01-2007, 06:00 PM   #6
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Hey,

my 2GBNQ runs with 470mhz 4-4-4-12 @ 2.25v and 533mhz 5-5-5-15 @ 2.25v.
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You have the P5B.. nice. Any mods on your board?
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Old 03-01-2007, 09:34 PM   #8
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I just picked these sticks up with a few other things, will be trying them in a p5n-e with a e6400. Will post results when they get here. Ordered a new stacker case as well. THis ram was on sale 199.99 at anitec, same with the coolermaster stacker 830. Really excited here lol
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as-sa-la-mu-a-lai-gom ahmad

sorry for

but i must say that this is the most funny way it can be written
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sorry for

but i must say that this is the most funny way it can be written
I'm sorry SaFrOuT, i don't know is how should written it or true written on eng.

ps. I don't to intend is it funny ,because i'm 's Muslim too
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Actually there is NO NEED for 164 phases that companies put in nowadays mobos....
FOUR (4) are enough with nowadays materials and maybe SIX (6) with the upcoming Gulftowns....
The 1024 phases is a "marketing trick" nowadays....
You will buy MY mobo because I put 2048 phases in my motherboard....
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Old 03-01-2007, 11:31 PM   #11
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i like this cheap ram.
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Old 03-02-2007, 04:02 AM   #12
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Good luck with your sticks...

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I just picked these sticks up with a few other things, will be trying them in a p5n-e with a e6400. Will post results when they get here. Ordered a new stacker case as well. THis ram was on sale 199.99 at anitec, same with the coolermaster stacker 830. Really excited here lol

I know. He just doesn't realize it . There is no correct way of writing it, you just write it as it sounds.

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I'm sorry SaFrOuT, i don't know is how should written it or true written on eng.

ps. I don't to intend is it funny ,because i'm 's Muslim too
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i like this cheap ram.



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I'm sorry SaFrOuT, i don't know is how should written it or true written on eng.

ps. I don't to intend is it funny ,because i'm 's Muslim too
we write it as Salam Alaikum or "alsalamu 3alikom"
but no problem as long as people can understand it
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If u guys want cheap ram u could get Kingston PC5400 1gb Value Ram.
It costs $87 CDN here.

Take a look.

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yeah but does value 5400 clock at all? I have more faith in gskill than in value kingston

also it looks like these are promos, how much vdimm do they like?

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87x2 is almost 180 CDN. So not much cheaper... Thats some crazy divider you are using there.
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Plester, Zolkorn or Riverna can you please post screenshots of memset please. I have gotten it to boot windows at 500MHz, but its not stable.

EDIT: Ok I found the magic timing. I still need those screenshots to make my life easy

EDIT#2:

I listened to Plester's advice and set all other timings to auto in the BIOS of the DS3. And I got this on the second try:

5-5-5-16 was no go. 5-5-5-17 at 2.2v was go

But auto made the timings very ugly. I need to work on those for the time being.
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yeah but does value 5400 clock at all? I have more faith in gskill than in value kingston

also it looks like these are promos, how much vdimm do they like?
What do you mean does it overclock at all?
Did you even look at the pic? its at 480.
I've taken it to 490 4-4-4-12 2.3v

That's more than these g.skills.

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87x2 is almost 180 CDN. So not much cheaper... Thats some crazy divider you are using there.
Yea it was on a 650i board, Asus P5N-E SLI so it was on unlinked mode.
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Plester, Zolkorn or Riverna can you please post screenshots of memset please. I have gotten it to boot windows at 500MHz, but its not stable.

EDIT: Ok I found the magic timing. I still need those screenshots to make my life easy

EDIT#2:

I listened to Plester's advice and set all other timings to auto in the BIOS of the DS3. And I got this on the second try:

5-5-5-16 was no go. 5-5-5-17 at 2.2v was go

But auto made the timings very ugly. I need to work on those for the time being.
yah... i'll post it in the next time, because is now it put on P5B-deluxe and timing is i set from biso p5b.... 5-5-5-15-6-42-5-13-7-15 , 2.45V
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Actually there is NO NEED for 164 phases that companies put in nowadays mobos....
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The 1024 phases is a "marketing trick" nowadays....
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What do you mean does it overclock at all?
Did you even look at the pic? its at 480.
I've taken it to 490 4-4-4-12 2.3v

That's more than these g.skills.



Yea it was on a 650i board, Asus P5N-E SLI so it was on unlinked mode.

The pic must not had loaded up by the time i posted. I still dont have the greatest faith in generic rams though.
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Kingston is not what I would consider to be generic
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tried tighnening up timings at ddr1000 with my GBNQs and can do about 350% w/ memtest at 4-4-5-15 (2.2v) befor it kicks out the first error. just tried ddr900 at 4-4-4-12 and fully stable there.

2gbb kit is $164 at the egg now.
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Kingston is not what I would consider to be generic

Yeah i guess hey lol, im so used to Heatspreaders now days i almost expect them on ram thats any good, even though there is no real reason for them. Sigh oh wells, mines shiny lol
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this is the happy place for these sticks - run em 24/7 at this speed and they are stable. $164/2gb kit at newegg.
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