New rig up and running.

[TheBlueChanell]

Cpu vdd adjust voltage in 0.0125v steps
Cpu v adjust voltage(offset) in 0.01v steps centered on Cpu vdd

Example

Cpu Vdd = 1.3625
Cpu v- = 1.352 / Cpu v+ = 1.372

If you raise Cpu Vdd = 1.375
Cpu v = 1.365v or 1.385v
depending if you added or subtracted voltage in first step

Thank you, makes much more sense now.

[TheBlueChanell]

3D Mark 3.8ghz

[NanoBullet]

Your GPU score is near 9000, and what i see as normal in a 5870 is between 17000 and 18000 GPU Score. How on earth is that happening?

[TheBlueChanell]

Your GPU score is near 9000, and what i see as normal in a 5870 is between 17000 and 18000 GPU Score. How on earth is that happening?

I'm not too sure. I thought it was low but not that bad. It's reading the card as a 5850 and it's possible it's running it in 2d clocks. I've got it pushed to 900/1300mhz in CCC.

I'm using the latest drivers too.

[Jamesrt2004]

its probably GPU throttling this time if you clock them too high the "throttle" etc on purpose to stop any problems, try lower the oc a tad like 800/1200 (just to be safe) and see if your score shoots up

[TheBlueChanell]

its probably GPU throttling this time if you clock them too high the "throttle" etc on purpose to stop any problems, try lower the oc a tad like 800/1200 (just to be safe) and see if your score shoots up

I will try and do that. I just uninstalled the 8.66RC6 drivers and I'm installing the RC7's atm. I can't imagine that'd be the case though, I'm running open air with plenty of fans and the cards fan is @ 60%. :/ We shall see, thank you for the input.

[FlanK3r]

nice clock and run with this voltage.

[TheBlueChanell]

I received a couple more parts today for my wc'ing loop. UPS dropped off a box with a HK3.0 LT, Micro Res V2 and 12 feet of Primoflex UV Blue. I will update with pictures later and possibly some rough pictures of what I have done to the case so far.

I just need to purchase my fittings, fans and the pump and I'll be ready to set up the loop. I am unsure of which pump I want though. I am thinking it's going to be between DDC 3.25 or the MCP655. I'm mulling over the idea of setting up a 2nd loop for the 5870 and possibly a 2nd card in the coming months.

I'm also a little worried about tubing size I picked up it's 1/2 ID 3/4 OD and it's a lot larger than I had imagined. I personally like the look of larger tubing but I'm afraid it might be hard to work with and from the looks of things it might not be able to fit it on the HK3.0.

[TheBlueChanell]

Your GPU score is near 9000, and what i see as normal in a 5870 is between 17000 and 18000 GPU Score. How on earth is that happening?

its probably GPU throttling this time if you clock them too high the "throttle" etc on purpose to stop any problems, try lower the oc a tad like 800/1200 (just to be safe) and see if your score shoots up

I've been doing a little testing with no avail. I re-ran the benchmark on a completely stock system and the results where same but obviously a little less than before. I than tried running it with my current OC but with default card clocks and still no dice. I'm a little stumped here I even tried increasing the fan speed to 75% and running.

I'm a little miffed by this. I've also tried the 8.66RC6 and RC7 drivers and both net me the same ballpark performance. I also don't seem to be the only person with this issue. I did a google search and came up with a few people having the same problem with hardware ranging from i5/i7/Ph2 to Core 2's.

My games all run beautifully though.

[Daveburt714]

Not sure how much this will help TBC, but I set my machine as close to your settings as I could and here are the results:



This was done on the system in my sig using a 4870/512 OC'd to 790/1090...
Your score does seem a little low for a 5870.

Using CPU-Z check to make sure your PCI-e Link Width is set to 16x (circled in SS).

I can't imagine it making a huge difference, but it's worth looking into.
If it's set at 8x you'll have to find and set it in BIOS.

Hope this helps...... Dave

[chew*]

Here's some pics.

Top down pic of the setup.

Here's my nice little window fan setup

[Aussie FX]

I've been doing a little testing with no avail. I re-ran the benchmark on a completely stock system and the results where same but obviously a little less than before. I than tried running it with my current OC but with default card clocks and still no dice. I'm a little stumped here I even tried increasing the fan speed to 75% and running.

I'm a little miffed by this. I've also tried the 8.66RC6 and RC7 drivers and both net me the same ballpark performance. I also don't seem to be the only person with this issue. I did a google search and came up with a few people having the same problem with hardware ranging from i5/i7/Ph2 to Core 2's.

My games all run beautifully though.

I'm not the only one then!

I have been pulling my hair out with these low scores. (Lightman I'm sure will attest to that )
I have support tickets in with both AMD and MSI trying to get on top of it.

I was concerned there was something wrong with my 5870 so I had a spare Gigabyte MA790FXT-UD5P here along with a 955 and some Cl9 corsair 1600mhz ram and surprise, surprise all my 3D mark scores were where they should be.
There is definitely something up with the GD-70 and the 5870's.

Now that I have found this thread I will send it off to MSI for a bit of extra proof...If you don't mind.

I would like to get this sorted fast because I'm getting choppy video.

Funny thing is I had crossfired 4870's and they worked perfectly in this board.

I will keep in touch if I hear anything useful.




My specs are.
MSI 790FX-GD70
PII 965 @ stock
Sapphire 5870 @ stock
8Gb OCZ Gold AMD Edition @1333Mhz
300Gb Velociraptor
Win7 x64 RC build 7100

[Aussie FX]

Some good news

After contacting MSI support they have got back to me with a new bios (1.7B5) and it has fixed the problem.
The board and card are now working correctly together.

It's definitely a bios problem as I had been given some new drivers to try which didn't help at all but the bios certainly did.

If any GD70/5870 owners need access to this bios pls PM me.

http://service.futuremark.com/result...eResultType=19

[TheBlueChanell]

Some good news

After contacting MSI support they have got back to me with a new bios (1.7B5) and it has fixed the problem.
The board and card are now working correctly together.

It's definitely a bios problem as I had been given some new drivers to try which didn't help at all but the bios certainly did.

If any GD70/5870 owners need access to this bios pls PM me.

http://service.futuremark.com/result...eResultType=19

Awesome. Great work and thanks for letting me know. This reminds me of the 4870x2 w/ DFI issue.

[Aussie FX]

Awesome. Great work and thanks for letting me know. This reminds me of the 4870x2 w/ DFI issue.

Yeah there's some huge gains to be had, especially in the feature tests.

06 result with 965 @ 3.8Ghz card is at stock.

[TheBlueChanell]

Been really busy lately with work and things. This weekend was also sweetest day plus the Girlfriends B-day so that kinda made things kinda hard on the watercooling front. I wasn't able to order anymore parts for my loop this week.

I'm hoping to be able to get my loop up and running before I leave for Europe in December but we'll see how life treats me.

I've done some other work with my comp when I had the time. I updated my Agility to the latest Firmware 1.4 for trim support. I flashed my 5870 to the Asus bios and I updated my motherboard bios to the 1.7B5 that's supposed to fix the 5870 issue.

I'm also waiting on a kit of ram that can do 1600 6-6-6 with a decent price tag.

Here's my latest Vantage Run, for some reason GPU-Z didn't detect my clocks but I'm running 1000/1300 1.2v. I still think MSI has some headway to be made in the 5870 compatibility department. I believe this GPU score still seems a little low. That's all I've got for now.

[FlanK3r]

1.38 and 3800, hm, good with Vantage

[TheBlueChanell]

1.38 and 3800, hm, good with Vantage

It's been stable in everything I've thrown at it. Vantage, Stalker, CSS, TF2. I played a 6 hour session of Fallout 3 with no troubles last night.

The 965 really is a good chip.

[FlanK3r]

i forgot...u have AIR cooling or watter? I can too with ~1.385V at 3800 MHz, but its stable only for superpi and easyly benchmarks, think, u can get 4 GHz stable ,-) (or 3950+ MHz)

[Aussie FX]

Been really busy lately with work and things. This weekend was also sweetest day plus the Girlfriends B-day so that kinda made things kinda hard on the watercooling front. I wasn't able to order anymore parts for my loop this week.

I'm hoping to be able to get my loop up and running before I leave for Europe in December but we'll see how life treats me.

I've done some other work with my comp when I had the time. I updated my Agility to the latest Firmware 1.4 for trim support. I flashed my 5870 to the Asus bios and I updated my motherboard bios to the 1.7B5 that's supposed to fix the 5870 issue.

I'm also waiting on a kit of ram that can do 1600 6-6-6 with a decent price tag.

Here's my latest Vantage Run, for some reason GPU-Z didn't detect my clocks but I'm running 1000/1300 1.2v. I still think MSI has some headway to be made in the 5870 compatibility department. I believe this GPU score still seems a little low. That's all I've got for now.

That gpu score does seem a little low. I'm getting around that score with my cpu and card @ stock clocks. Apart from me using 8Gb ram our systems are pretty much identical.
I'm using Windows 7 x64 build 7100.

http://service.futuremark.com/result...&resultType=19

[TheBlueChanell]

I was wondering if this Corsair kit would get me 1600 6-6-6? I believe these are the sticks/IC's chew was testing?


UPDATE: Is this the result?

https://shop.corsair.com/store/item_view.aspx?id=979672

[TheBlueChanell]

i forgot...u have AIR cooling or watter? I can too with ~1.385V at 3800 MHz, but its stable only for superpi and easyly benchmarks, think, u can get 4 GHz stable ,-) (or 3950+ MHz)

I've got everything setup next to the window like in the pictures.

4ghz is my ultimate goal. I've been playing in the bios now and testing as much as I could make time for the past couple of weeks and I've come to the conclusion that I'm not going to get much farther than I am now with the tools available. I should hopefully be completing my loop in the next few weeks if all goes as planned. I'm going on a trip to Europe in December so I'm trying to save for that.

After everything is up and running I would really like to see if I can push 4ghz for 24/7 under water. It appears as if I have a nice chip on my hands. I'd like to get a kit that can do 1600 6-6-6 so I can actually start to see how the nb is going to treat me.

[TheBlueChanell]

Here's a 3D Mark Run that I did for fun. It seems as if I need a better CPU cooler or my chip has an extremely weak NB. It wouldn't complete 3DMark @ any less than 1.43v. :/

CPU @ 3800 1.4v, NB @ 2800 1.43v, and RAM @ 1600 6-6-6-24 1.65v.

GPU @ 1000/1300 @ 1.2v

Catalyst 9.10. MSI 1.7b5 Bios

[TheBlueChanell]

I've spent the good chunk of the morning here doing some testing with my card and Vantage.

I started tweaking and I found that 1300mhz on the RAM was a pretty happy medium. It gave me a healthy boost in performance over stock clocks and also allowed me to gradually raise my core clock without errors. I found that anything over 1300 caused 3DMark to crash when the core clock was higher than 1075.

These are done with the Cat 9.11 Beta and the MSI 1.7b7 Bios.

I decided not to post SS's for bandwidth's sake but here are the GPU scores of my past few couple of runs:

1000/1300 = 15,330
1050/1300 = 17,731
1065/1300 = 18,445
1075/1300 = 18,616
1085/1300 = 18,755
1090/1300 = 18,831
1095/1300 = 18,794

It seems that I begin to lose performance when the core was clocked higher than 1095 and I couldn't even get Vantage to complete a run with the core clock @ 1100. I stopped there.

I'm going to run the same test's with the ram clocked @ 1325 and 1350 once I find some time.

Lastly, I'm going to leave you with an SS of one of my last runs. It's a 1090/1300 Run. The score is a wee bit lower than stated above but this run was done after a reboot because 3D Mark did not like 1100/1300 and that's the way the cookie crumbles. I decided to do a full run with these clocks and called it a night. The sun is coming up soon which means my room will get warmer. No more benching for tonight plus I have to work in about 6 hours.

Enjoy.

[FlanK3r]

very good chip, do u tried max OC for validation?