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    Quote Originally Posted by enzoR
    is that your ic7's max in 5:4? wtf y does it say epox lol!
    Yes this was with the EPOX one...........I'm trying to find the screenie with the IC7 one..........I think it was 312MHz+.........

    EDIT : It is on my benching rig...........Tommorow........
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    Quote Originally Posted by hipro5
    Yes this was with the EPOX one...........I'm trying to find the screenie with the IC7 one..........I think it was 312MHz+.........


    the only mod i'm missing from my ic7-g is the electrolytic cap mod for nothbridge. i dont have a cap for it

    how much did it help? i have my vagp at 2.05v then it hits ovp
    what is a save vnorthbridge? 1.75v?

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    Say has anyone seen some kickass results yet or are the 260mhz around max
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    Quote Originally Posted by bias_hjorth
    Say has anyone seen some kickass results yet or are the 260mhz around max
    not yet ... i hope ill have more than 10 sticks and a maximizer at the end of the week to test

    btw my PSU (stock not modded) freaked out! 12V rail was 13.7V 5Vrail 5.7V. (who needs psu volt mods!!! )and when the booster was showing 3.5V actual voltage was 4.7 (yep i said four point seven) for more than an hour!!! ... RAM-CPU-BOARD remained undamanged !
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    Quote Originally Posted by esdee
    not yet ... i hope ill have more than 10 sticks and a maximizer at the end of the week to test

    btw my PSU (stock not modded) freaked out! 12V rail was 13.7V 5Vrail 5.7V. (who needs psu volt mods!!! )and when the booster was showing 3.5V actual voltage was 4.7 (yep i said four point seven) for more than an hour!!! ... RAM-CPU-BOARD remained undamanged !
    I´ll be def. looking forward to your test. :thumbsup:
    About your motherboard are you sure its wasnt your multimeter that went crazy
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    Quote Originally Posted by bias_hjorth
    are you sure its wasnt you multim that went crazy
    lol, yes im pretty much sure...those mems are so high-Volt-proof and cool!

    Ok now new psu is on (tagan 480-u01 480W) so back to business !
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    Quote Originally Posted by bias_hjorth
    Say has anyone seen some kickass results yet or are the 260mhz around max

    Why? Is 270mhz @2-2-2 1T for $39.00 not kickass enough for you? Seriously, what are you expecting man?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trans am
    Why? Is 270mhz @2-2-2 1T for $39.00 not kickass enough for you? Seriously, what are you expecting man?

    Simple - Something that beats EB´s and BH5 - 1gb btw.
    270mhz 2-2-2-5 or what have you, has been around for ages. Usually I like technology to evolve. Not just to get another replacement if you catch my drift.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bias_hjorth
    Simple - Something that beats EB´s and BH5 - 1gb btw.
    Are you kidding?
    my bh6 max is 236. my mushkin blk level II bh5 max was 237mhz at 2-2-2 1t, so this already beats it. And how high can you get a gig of bh5 and eb up to? at 2-2-2 timings? My VX gig does 264 2-2-2 stable. You seem to have very high expectations. Almost unrealistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trans am
    Are you kidding?
    my bh6 max is 236. my mushkin blk level II bh5 max was 237mhz at 2-2-2 1t, so this already beats it. And how high can you get a gig of bh5 and eb up to? at 2-2-2 timings? My VX gig does 264 2-2-2 stable. You seem to have very high expectations. Almost unrealistic.
    I wasnt talking about the Bh5 running 1gb. I was talking about seeing memory that´ll run 1gb at higher numbers than 270mhz (I believe I saw bh5 doing so on a Intel rig "1gb"), Which is max we have seen from any VX, twinmos so far. I liked the EB´s - They were kicking everything for a short period of time until they suddenly got discontinued.
    Call my demands unrealistic sure, but thats just me I guess.
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    There was a post showing some kingston memory a little while back that said it had these chips, what did kingston relabel them as?
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    Guys I couldn't read from the beggining of the topic. But there is an important info about the twinmos memories which contain winbond chips.

    As you should see there is a big sticker on the right side of the memory. On this sticker there is a p/n code. If this code ends with "AA4T" then it should be winbond bh-5 or bh-6. This info is only valid for DDR400 Twinmos memories.

    I have tried about 4 sticks of 512mb twinmos ddr400 which is AA4T. But it isn't marked as 50D on the chips, they are marked as 60D. Just above this 60D "-50" is marked as well.

    These chips that I have tried does about 270Fsb 2-2-2-6 1T with 3.7vdimm on A64 754 rig.

    I also tried 1 stick of 256mb Twinmos ddr400 again AA4T. This memory's chips were as well 60D marked. And it did round about the same.

    I almost forgot, the memories which I saw were all M.tec marked

    If I remember anything else I'll write back

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-GeN
    Guys I couldn't read from the beggining of the topic. But there is an important info about the twinmos memories which contain winbond chips.

    As you should see there is a big sticker on the right side of the memory. On this sticker there is a p/n code. If this code ends with "AA4T" then it should be winbond bh-5 or bh-6. This info is only valid for DDR400 Twinmos memories.

    I have tried about 4 sticks of 512mb twinmos ddr400 which is AA4T. But it isn't marked as 50D on the chips, they are marked as 60D. Just above this 60D "-50" is marked as well.

    These chips that I have tried does about 270Fsb 2-2-2-6 1T with 3.7vdimm on A64 754 rig.

    I also tried 1 stick of 256mb Twinmos ddr400 again AA4T. This memory's chips were as well 60D marked. And it did round about the same.

    I almost forgot, the memories which I saw were all M.tec marked

    If I remember anything else I'll write back
    You state this info is valid for DDR400 only...in that case the modules I linked above, which are DDR333 but match in all other respects would not Winbond at all or would they be Winbond bh-6 and not Winbond UTT?

    Just trying to get it straight in my head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-GeN
    Guys I couldn't read from the beggining of the topic. But there is an important info about the twinmos memories which contain winbond chips.

    As you should see there is a big sticker on the right side of the memory. On this sticker there is a p/n code. If this code ends with "AA4T" then it should be winbond bh-5 or bh-6. This info is only valid for DDR400 Twinmos memories.

    I have tried about 4 sticks of 512mb twinmos ddr400 which is AA4T. But it isn't marked as 50D on the chips, they are marked as 60D. Just above this 60D "-50" is marked as well.

    These chips that I have tried does about 270Fsb 2-2-2-6 1T with 3.7vdimm on A64 754 rig.

    I also tried 1 stick of 256mb Twinmos ddr400 again AA4T. This memory's chips were as well 60D marked. And it did round about the same.

    I almost forgot, the memories which I saw were all M.tec marked

    If I remember anything else I'll write back
    One of the guys at OC Forums has just picked up a 512MB stick of OCZ PC2700 Value Series with those same M.tec chips you have described above (ending in 60D with the "04304-50" mfg. date info). He is the one that I've been waiting to get back with me. I thought he was buying TwinMOS, but it was instead the OCZ with the M.tec chips.

    On an Intel rig he hit 250 with 2-2-2-6 using 3.6v so that is a very VX like performance for Intel, maybe even a little better than some. Just wanted to pass that along.

    Those M.tec chips are like little jewels lying around, just waiting to be picked up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-GeN
    I have tried about 4 sticks of 512mb twinmos ddr400 which is AA4T. But it isn't marked as 50D on the chips, they are marked as 60D. Just above this 60D "-50" is marked as well.

    These chips that I have tried does about 270Fsb 2-2-2-6 1T with 3.7vdimm on A64 754 rig.

    I also tried 1 stick of 256mb Twinmos ddr400 again AA4T. This memory's chips were as well 60D marked. And it did round about the same.

    I almost forgot, the memories which I saw were all M.tec marked

    If I remember anything else I'll write back

    In that listing that was provided earlier, showing the various clocks for the 60Ds, the 50Ds and the 44Ds we left off the 60Ds with the "-50" after the date codes (like X-Gen reported in an earlier post).

    These seem to do much better than the 240 shown for the "regular" 60Ds. X-Gen hit 270s and Diablo23rd over at OCForums has a set of these and they maxed his 3.2 P4 at 255 with 3.6v and he was sure they had more left.

    We might want to edit the list and include these (remember...these are M.tec labeled chips that have the extra code, not the TwinMOS labels).
    Last edited by Reefa_Madness; 01-13-2005 at 05:14 PM. Reason: clarify

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    the final test to see if this is the same chips as VX it to test on an intel platform and see how far they get at 2-2-2-5. if they dont go very far 220-235, try at 3-2-2-5 if they reach speeds of 250 and above then these are the same chips

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    Quote Originally Posted by enzoR
    the final test to see if this is the same chips as VX it to test on an intel platform and see how far they get at 2-2-2-5. if they dont go very far 220-235, try at 3-2-2-5 if they reach speeds of 250 and above then these are the same chips

    check the previous hipro5's posts..!
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    Quote Originally Posted by esdee
    check the previous hipro5's posts..!
    hmm ok he got 260... so then these are not VX

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    Quote Originally Posted by enzoR
    hmm ok he got 260... so then these are not VX

    Better...maybe? Or at least if you run Intel.

    OCZ VX has been optimized for A64 by their own statements. It could very well be the same chips, just simply a difference in implementation that allows these to run better on an Intel rig than the VX runs on Intel.
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    really want these 2*512...can anyone point me where to get them..neweggs?
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    Yes and I didnt state that I didnt like that - But I was hopeing and looking for more in terms of mhz at least. Well especially from the VX sticks at.
    Sure I´ll be trying these anytime soon but from what i´ve seen its nothing really impressive so far. But I sure hope it changes.
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    Good info about the product code.

    Hipro5's sticks (see CPU-Z screenshot) and trans am's sticks both have the "AA" in the product codes.

    Trans am's sticks are not M.tec, but labeled TwinMOS.

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    it has to be AA4T

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    Quote Originally Posted by enzoR
    it has to be AA4T

    They are both AA4T, I just took a short cut in my response and probably should not have because it might confuse someone trying to find the right chips.

    Newegg has 256 sticks of PC2700 with these same chips in stock, they are M.tec, have the dimples and the hole in the lower left corner AND are marked ast AA4T in the product number. They sell for $32, plus just under $5 shipping so it comes to $37 per stick. The picture appears to show a week 31 date. It would appear that these are also the good chips, right?

    Or might they be relabeled bh-6? Wouldn't that be sweet for $37 per stick?

    http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...218-057&depa=1

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