Xtreme Twinmos Memory!

[chester]

timco cool.i been getn flack from thge hardcore girls here.I get errors at 200 fsb.I should burn it like most do then send it back,but i dont do that.I take whats given me,and live with it.This is the slowest mem i have ever bought,but some peeps claim to get 250+fsb with 2-2-2-5 timings.It could be they sell this mem and hand picked the modules.I myself would love to get a pair of 512 that do this.If u buy these sticks from twinmos get the cheaper ones as u most likely will find they "suk".my offer tp prove this still stands .Send me ur 255 to 270 fsb and i will send u mine.Im lucky to get 200 fsb 8-4-4-2,and still error.pfff twinmos suks hard!!!!!!!Good fer ya

[[timko]]

It's good to hear that's it not just me so far then.

Well, I'm going to leave mine "burning in" at 215Mhz (yes that's two one five) with 2-2-2 timings overnight at 3.2v and see if things get any better

[uwackme]

With no sig's I have no idea what you are running them on or at what settings...complete settings.

If they are normal un-redesigned BH5 then they will act like BH5. So in NForce2 boards they will suk azz.

Chester did you get 1A4T "new BH5" sticks? 2x512M? Ill trade you my 1G CH5 that does 235Mhz 11,2,2,2.0 2T for them?

[Minstadave]

Ps, Minsta, glad to see you've taken a brief timeout from your dissertation to get us some results, yours are looking good - unlike mine Also, I've rated your review over at Komplett "useful"

Hey mate.

Yeah posted up a few results while I was having a break from this stupid dissertation. Would have posted "back home" but my GF won't give me my password back (I knew it was a bad idea).

Will try my modules at stock tonight, contemplating giving their CH5 a try too if these don't burn in much.

[Formann]

With no sig's I have no idea what you are running them on or at what settings...complete settings.

If they are normal un-redesigned BH5 then they will act like BH5. So in NForce2 boards they will suk azz.

Chester did you get 1A4T "new BH5" sticks? 2x512M? Ill trade you my 1G CH5 that does 235Mhz 11,2,2,2.0 2T for them?

Sorry about that.

Im running them on a 3500+ CAAZC good for 280 tight with my old pair of BH5 or 300+ with TCCD. MOBO is a DFI nF4.

[[timko]]

With no sig's I have no idea what you are running them on or at what settings...complete settings.

Ok, here's my setup BEFORE I put in the Twinmos...

NF7-s v2.0 with NO wire mods of any kind.
Manta Rays D26 XT CPC On (1T)
XP-m 2500 IQYHA + SLK900a
2 x 512Mb Patriot XBLK (TCCD)@ 2.9v and 2-3-3-11

...and here's a pic of it running rock solid at 8mb SuperPi 238Mhz FSB (can also do 16Mb and 32Mb and also hundreds of rounds of memtest #5 error free but I didn't get a shot of those)...

http://img200.exs.cx/img200/5615/timko8mb7272io.jpg


When I switched out the TCCD and replaced it with the two sticks of Twinmos 1A4T BH-5, I set the timings to SPD as advertised -> 2.5-4-4-9, I set the FSB to stock for the RAM which is 216Mhz and put the vdimm to 2.9v... and these are the only settings I changed. This results in memtest #5 multiple errors

So as you can see, the rest of my rig can do a higher FSB with absolutely no issues with the TCCD RAM so why can't this BH-5 operate error free at a lower FSB?

RMA Time?

[[timko]]

Hey mate.

Yeah posted up a few results while I was having a break from this stupid dissertation. Would have posted "back home" but my GF won't give me my password back (I knew it was a bad idea).

Will try my modules at stock tonight, contemplating giving their CH5 a try too if these don't burn in much.

I'm guessing the deadline for your work will be sometime during the first two weeks of May yes? (At least mine was when I did it )

Plus, you should have got your gf to change your ISP password instead!

[chester]

bwahahahaha.sry:-]I tried these sticks in 3 nforce2s and am a64 3000.I wont even bother putting them in my old p4 423 cuz thats my second worst ram rdram grrrr.U know they ?
may work in my old timex bejuseus outta them on that yea.maybie just bad stiks,but i usually get what i pay for.lemme look through my closet thiss ram is good fer somn<;-(

[uwackme]

Timko, I've tested 5G's of BH5 and 1G BH6 and none of it will run for shieeet in MY NF7-S....with Vdimm Vtt Vdd mod's!!! Stock NF7 is even worse. But the UTT does 245Mhz 1T 8,2,2,2.0 on the SAME board.

I have to burn the CPCoff bios back into the board when I want to switch back to CH5/BH5 sticks. Using D26 MantaXT cpcon and cpcoff versions.

For you....

First, it NEEDS the CPCoff bios. For some reason BH5 almost never ever runs 1T on the NForce2 chipset. Second its gonna need voltage. CPCoff it will do 200Mhz+ 11,2,2,2.0 2T @ 2.9Vbios. But to shine on NForce2 its gonna need TheVolt and it will never shine 1T on NForce2.

On an A64 board the results will be much better, 1T, lower Vdimm, etc.

These UTT/VX/SP sticks are a different breed and shine 1T high FSB.... but again NOT on a stock board, you gotta get to 3.2+Vdimm to make them work on a NForce2.

So confirm 200Mhz 5,2,2,2.0 with CPCoff 2.9V first, if it still screws up consider RMA.

[cartmanea]

Not entirely true. I had 2x512 Mushkin Promo Build BH-5 that did 225, 2.9v, 2-2-2 on my NF7-S with both Abit bios and modded bios, all with CPC on. The loss in performance from going CPC off needs an extra 30 MHz or so to make up for it, not worth it just to say you have higher fsb.

[largon]

The only real BH-5 I had was Kingston HyperX 2x512MB they did 245 2-2-2-x 1T DC 3.3V on DFI nF2 UI.

@chester: There is no such manufacturer whose every single product they sell works without fault.
You happened to get a faulty pair/stick. No point in wailing about them. RMA them.

My 1GB of TMSP CH-UTT did 250 2-2-2-11 1T DC on DFI nF2 UI @ 3.3V. On current A64 they they freak out in Memtest: 20 rounds of #5 errorless then BAM! 30 errors in single pass. Mostly even #2 & #3 do ~kazillion errors. (BAAaad A64 3k+ CBBID0505) Edit: Hah! Got them stable! tREF is a magic timing.

[Fosco]

Got 4 sticks of Twinmos SP 3500.. 1A4T , 44B.

1 pair does 250-2-2-2-5 @ 3.4v blend,memtest,32M stab

Just startet playing with the other 2 stick. So far 32M stab, 245-2-2-2-5 @ 3.4v, will be testing more soon.

This on DFI NF4 ultra-d with Winnie 3000+

[NoStra]

I have had four sticks of the new SpeedPremium 3500 w/BH5 for two days now.

Max OC in single channel config (stick no.):
1 262MHz
2 253MHz
3 250MHz
4 246MHz

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In dual mode (128bit)
approx. 235MHz (doesnt matter which stiks is used)

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All the tests where run at 3,5V@2 2 2 8 1T
4 full rounds in memtest86 w/no errors = "test ok!"

DFI nF4 Ultra-D w/3000+ winnie

How can you run with 3 sticks?

[largon]

Got 4 sticks of Twinmos SP 3500.. A4AT , 44B.
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A4AT
Maybe 1A4T or AA4T? Have I missed something?

[Minstadave]

Got 4 sticks of Twinmos SP 3500.. A4AT , 44B.

1 pair does 250-2-2-2-5 @ 3.4v blend,memtest,32M stab

Just startet playing with the other 2 stick. So far 32M stab, 245-2-2-2-5 @ 3.4v, will be testing more soon.

This on DFI NF4 ultra-d with Winnie 3000+

Keep us informed, I'm getting almost identical results with my SP3500, doing some burning in to see if it helps.

[200%absolut]

After testing Twinmos SP UTT on intel ( FSB 210 max 2/2/2/5 @ 3.4V ...)
I just receive 4*512Mo of SP 3500 1A4T BH5
FSB 238 2/2/2/5 @ 3.0~3.1v still on burnin

Stable is more than 10 passes memtest #5 flawless
Tested on Asus P4C800E-Dlx
P4C 3.0 SL6WU

[Fosco]

A4AT
Maybe 1A4T or AA4T? Have I missed something?

1A4T sorry

[RacerX]

Guys, just received 2 more TwinMos SP 3200 512mb week 0506 44d. I must say I truely impressed with these $55 dollar sticks. So far one stick burning in nicely at 260htt with 3.35v, passed Superpi 2m with first boot.

PCB is still KO-6633. These are more consistent from stick to stick compared to Mushkin blue it seems.

Now lets see what 3.5v gets us.

[Toro 45]

RacerX, where did you get your TwinMos SP 3200 at?

[sparkie34]

RacerX, where did you get your TwinMos SP 3200 at?

Newegg I'm sure.

[RacerX]

yup, Newegg. Seems both sticks maxing out around 263htt no matter what volts. Noticed I need to increase vdimm to atleast 3.45v as it decreases while stressing or buring in the ram, go as low at 3.3v which isn't good. Need to replace the pot on my booster or go with OCZ Powerstream PS for more stable volts.

Tell ya the truth if my cpu didn't have such a POS memory controller then I would be more happy with 300htt slightly looser timings then 260htt tight.

[Toro 45]

So your buying the individual speed premium sticks, have you tried the Twinmos dual packs from Newegg? My dual pack doesn't perform nearly as well as your speed premiums(237max) I was thinking about picking up the Mushkins but guys are really getting inconsistant results with them. I think I may have to try a couple of the 512mb speed premiums, what timmings are you running with them on your nF3?

I just noticed your using a DDR Booster, did you mod it so you can use 2 sticks are are your results from always running one stick and the DDR booster?

[largon]

Got my week 48 Speed Premiums stable.

[burningrave101]

Has anyone overclocked these on an Athlon 64 3500+ Clawhammer? How well will it perform if i install 4 of them in a DFI Ultra-D? I guess they will default to DDR333 speeds but am i able to run them any higher? How safe is it to run 3.2v-3.4v for a long period of time without added cooling for the RAM?

[cjoe]

Just received an unlucky set of AA4T/44D. Neither stick will post at 200FSB 2.5/3/3/9/2T @ 2.9V or 200FSB 2/2/2/5/2T @ 3.2V. Individually they will post at 3.3V but they are not stable. Both sticks will produces thousands of errors in memtest86.

Looks like I need to RMA the two sticks.

Anyone have any suggestions?

BTW: I swapped out my NeoPower 480W with a Fortron Blue Storm 500W because everyone was praising the Fortron so much and disparaging the NeoPower as over-rated. However, I seem to get more memory errors in Memtest86 with the Blue Storm. Do power supplies need to be burned in also? Did I get a bad PS from Newegg? Strange.

cjoe