*New* ABIT Fatal1ty AN8-SLI = 3.55V Vdimm

[dinos22]

nice OPB's RAM is probably cherry picked...nice

hey we need to talk him into getting an Abit board to do some OCing as well

I posted a thread at Abit forum in regards to temperature sensor reporting really high temps for me.......can you guys tell me what the temps are like on your CPUs......and let us know what bios and CPU you actually have, and temps you are getting through bios and windows....thanks guys

i'm getting a hold of some opb handpicked tccd f1 la week 440 chips that do 2.5-3-3-6 so when i recieve them i will do 2 more tests. test 1 will consist of
4x256 mb tccd f1 la. we will see how much 4 sticks hamper overclockability.
test 2 will be to see how much more i can squeeze out of the board performance wise at tighter timings. And of course mushkin redline results will come soon as im trying to pool up the cash for those and another cpu and an an8 ultra.

Edit*** scratch that the person that was going to trade me for my bh-5 chips backed out

[chew*]

LOL
underload while priming @2.4 gig 8x300 1.5v default voltage w/3500 clawhammer temps read 142F/60C with a asetek waterchill pro 3x120mm fan setup. room temps around 70f. I'd say its reporting temps just a tad on the high side since the only thing in my cooling loop is my cpu. hardware reviewers all show this unit keeping cpu's in the 37C range. Air temp coming out of exhaust on radiator is lukewarm at best.

Curiosity makes me wonder what its going to read when i put my new chiller on it(keep an eye on the waterchilled forums for liquid frostbyte revisited ). Man that brings back memories. I havent frozen a cpu since my epox 8rda+. kinda makes me sad since I had alot better cpus back then running at faster speeds prime stable than i am now (2700mhz 1700+axp dltc3) here's a pic doesn't it just look o so ghetto.


the black slimline rig is my idea of a laptop :P it has a p4 in it and every sunday we fry some eggs up sunny side up on top of the case.

[dinos22]

laptop

looks like you have the bad temp read as well........as 2.4GHz should be a breeze even for a Claw

the black slimline rig is my idea of a laptop :P it has a p4 in it and every sunday we fry some eggs up sunny side up on top of the case.

[aussie7]

I'm picking up my AN8 Ultra today

I will post some results when I get it up and running, have some Geil Value UTT and Kingston HyperX TCCD to try out on it

Currently have an AN8 v1.0 which gets my whinchester 3000+ 0447 upto 2760Mhz 1.6v / HTT345 x 8 / HT x 3 with a TT XP-90 HSF

I'm only getting the ultra over the v1.0 for the higher VDIMM as both my ram need more than 2.8v

[chew*]

you want to add this link to the front page for those having issues tic tac?

its my bugs tips and tricks thread and since the bios is the same for all boards i think it applies to all quite well.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=56099

[dinos22]

how much did you pay for yours (AN8 Ultra)....that is one serious Winchester CPU dude

I'm picking up my AN8 Ultra today

I will post some results when I get it up and running, have some Geil Value UTT and Kingston HyperX TCCD to try out on it

Currently have an AN8 v1.0 which gets my whinchester 3000+ 0447 upto 2760Mhz 1.6v / HTT345 x 8 / HT x 3 with a TT XP-90 HSF

I'm only getting the ultra over the v1.0 for the higher VDIMM as both my ram need more than 2.8v

[aussie7]

how much did you pay for yours (AN8 Ultra)....that is one serious Winchester CPU dude

Getting the AN8 Ultra for $210 pickup, which is only $2 more than the cheapest price on staticice

[bugeyes]

Getting the AN8 Ultra for $210 pickup, which is only $2 more than the cheapest price on staticice

it's the money game dude ?

[dinos22]

hi guys

i started to to play with UTT RAM first....the board looped memtest test#5 error free at 238MHz @3.2V which is sligthly higher than DFI and also I used really tight timings unlike on DFI setup.......BUT I ran into memtest errors at test#8 which i originally didn't test for in my last post so i dropped it back to 225Mhz on test#8 and still got errors.....damn.......so i decided to stop messing around and......

.......go back to square one......I started with tictac's suggested timings enclosed below....i am on 9x multiplier though

Memtest 1.55.1 Test 5-----quick 6 loops
Memtest 1.55.1 Test 8-----quick 2 loops
(they are quick loops and once i run into errors at desired speed i will drop MHz back for lengthier tests)

TEST A: 2.8VOLTS on vdimm
TEST1: 200MHz Test5&8----PASS
TEST2: 205MHz Test5&8----PASS
TEST3: 210MHz Test5&8----PASS
TEST4: 215MHz Test5&8----PASS
TEST5: 220MHz Test5----FAIL(errors); Test8----PASS(errors);

TEST B: 2.9VOLTS on vdimm
TEST1: 220MHz Test5&8----PASS
TEST2: 225MHz Test5&8----FAIL(errors)

TEST C: 3.0VOLTS on vdimm
TEST1: 225MHz Test5----PASS; Test8----FAIL(errors)

TEST D: 3.1VOLTS on vdimm
TEST1: 225MHz Test5----PASS; Test8----FAIL(loads of errors)

TEST E: 3.2VOLTS on vdimm
TEST1: 238MHz Test5----PASS; Test8----FAIL(loads of errors)

I tried to see if a much faster fan would make a difference in terms of cooling and it made NO difference

It seems that my Venice also has the problem with 1T with this bios so I CHANGED TIMING TO 2T and here are the results:

TEST A: 3.0VOLTS on vdimm
TEST1: 225MHz Test5&8----PASS
TEST2: 230MHz Test5&8----PASS
TEST3: 235MHz Test5----FAIL(errors)...moved to 3.1V

TEST B: 3.1VOLTS on vdimm
TEST1: 235MHz Test5&8----PASS
TEST2: 240MHz Test5----FAIL(errors); Test8----PASS

TEST C: 3.2VOLTS on vdimm
TEST1: 240MHz Test5&8----PASS
TEST2: 245MHz Test5----FAIL(tens of thousands of errors); Test8----PASS

TEST D: 3.3VOLTS on vdimm
TEST1: 245MHz Test5----FAIL(40 errors); Test8----PASS

TEST E: 3.4VOLTS on vdimm
TEST1: 245MHz Test5&8----PASS
TEST2: 250MHz Test5----FAIL(errors); Test8----PASS

TEST F: 3.55VOLTS on vdimm
TEST1: 250MHz Test5&8----PASS
TEST2: 254MHz Test5&8----PASS
TEST3: 259MHz Test5&8----PASS (AFTER 5 hour Burn-in)

(End of test there at TIGHT timings set out by tictac...I don't see much point loosening the timings to reach 260/265......but I might burn them in a little as see what happens)

BTW.....the mosfet heatsink that sits next to that heatpipe copper heatsink is not even warm......more like luke warm at 3.55Vdimm...i was expecting to be able to fry a couple of eggs.....well DFI is supposed to be pretty hot at these volts anyhow......I only have active cooling on the RAM.....92mm fan spinning at 1500RPM....slow just to blow some air over the RAM

I'm happy


Solo, I am interested whether you used the same settings on Ultra board as you did with SLI Fatal1ty

Ok the best I can do so far with my old Mushkin BH5 DDR433 @ 3.55V
SuperPI 1m / 3DMark2001 / Sciencemark stable. Good enough for me.

No A64 Tweaking.

if you want to test your memory .... 1st lower your multiplier
then max out your memory and see where they max out.....

try mutliplier 7
VCore : default
Vdimm : 3.2v-3.5v
DDR VTT : DDR/2
HT Frequency : 4x
HTT Start from 200MHz( increase by 5Mhz interval)
test stability with Super PI then 3d mark 2001.....

Bios memory timing :
DDR Clock : DDR400 (Sync 1:1)
CAS Latency : 2
row cycle time : 7
row refresh cycle time : 14
ras to cas delay : 2
ras to ras delay : 2
min ras active time : 5
ras precharge time : 2
write recovery time : 2
write to read delay : 1
read to write delay : 2
Dram command rate : 1T
burst length :
bank interleaving : enable

[situman]

burst length is empty, wat should the value be?

[dinos22]

good question....i was wondering that myself.....i think mine is set at 4

burst length is empty, wat should the value be?

[tictac]

hi guys

i started to to play with UTT RAM first....the board is looped memtest test#5 error free at 238MHz @3.2V which is sligthly higher than DFI and also I used really tight timings unlike on DFI setup.......BUT I ran into memtest errors at test#8 which i originally didn't test for in my last post so i dropped it back to 225Mhz on test#8 and still got errors.....damn.......so i decided to stop messing around and......

.......go back to square one......I started with tictac's suggested timings enclosed below....i am on 9x multiplier though

Memtest 1.55.1 Test 5-----quick 6 loops
Memtest 1.55.1 Test 8-----quick 2 loops
(they are quick loops and once i run into errors at desired speed i will drop MHz back for lengthier tests)

TEST A: 2.8VOLTS on vdimm
TEST1: 200MHz Test5&8----PASS
TEST2: 205MHz Test5&8----PASS
TEST3: 210MHz Test5&8----PASS
TEST4: 215MHz Test5&8----PASS
TEST5: 220MHz Test5----FAIL(errors); Test8----PASS(errors);

TEST B: 2.9VOLTS on vdimm
TEST1: 220MHz Test5&8----PASS
TEST2: 225MHz Test5&8----FAIL(errors)

TEST C: 3.0VOLTS on vdimm
TEST1: 225MHz Test5----PASS; Test8----FAIL(errors)

TEST D: 3.1VOLTS on vdimm
TEST1: 225MHz Test5----PASS; Test8----FAIL(tons more errors)

I tried to see if a much faster fan would make a difference in terms of cooling and it made NO difference

It seems that my Venice also has the problem with 1T with this bios so I CHANGED TIMING TO 2T and here are the results:

TEST A: 3.0VOLTS on vdimm
TEST1: 225MHz Test5&8----PASS
TEST2: 230MHz Test5&8----PASS
TEST3: 235MHz Test5----FAIL(errors)...moved to 3.1V

TEST B: 3.1VOLTS on vdimm
TEST1: 235MHz Test5&8----PASS
TEST2: 240MHz Test5----FAIL(errors); Test8----PASS

TEST C: 3.2VOLTS on vdimm
TEST1: 240MHz Test5&8----PASS
TEST2: 245MHz Test5----FAIL(tens of thousands of errors); Test8----PASS

TEST D: 3.3VOLTS on vdimm
TEST1: 245MHz Test5----FAIL(40 errors); Test8----PASS

TEST E: 3.4VOLTS on vdimm
TEST1: 245MHz Test5&8----PASS
TEST2: 250MHz Test5----FAIL(errors); Test8----PASS

TEST F: 3.55VOLTS on vdimm
TEST1: 250MHz Test5&8----PASS
TEST2: 254MHz Test5&8----PASS
(End of test there at TIGHT timings set out by tictac...I don't see much point loosening the timings to reach 260/265......but I might burn them in a little as see what happens)

BTW.....the mosfet heatsink that sits next to that heatpipe copper heatsink is not even warm......more like luke warm at 3.55Vdimm...i was expecting to be able to fry a couple of eggs.....well DFI is supposed to be pretty hot at these volts anyhow......I only have active cooling on the RAM.....92mm fan spinning at 1500RPM....slow just to blow some air over the RAM

I'm happy


Solo, I am interested whether you used the same settings on Ultra board as you did with SLI Fatal1ty

Thanks for the result. Looks like 1T issue with venice & this board.
1T no higher than 225MHz

[dinos22]

i can go as much or close to 2T on 1T but memtest#5 will be clean and test#8 will error.....something funny there.....because is started comparing my old results and it did 238MHz 1T @3.2V memtest#5 clean but #8 was the problem......

There is only 2% real world performance penalty between 1T and 2T so I don't think it's that big a deal......damn it Tictac you can mod the bios as well.....what do you reckon you fix that and a few other things we need

Thanks for the result. Looks like 1T issue with venice & this board.
1T no higher than 225MHz

[dinos22]

check this out 2.8GHz overclock on my Venice at DDR333 divider...RAM at 254MHz

Speedfan is showing DDRVDD AS 3.45V.....WTF.....also check out the ridiculous idle temp on the Venice.....the load temp should be under that man

MEMTEST


WINDOWS+SuperPI

[situman]

2.8ghz is sweet, what's there to complain about? Unless it u got a higher overclock on the DFI. Also, software measurement of volts is inaccurate. Measure with a Meter to confirm the volts. Now if only someone can point out where to measure.

[tictac]

but he is running on 2T

[Altima]

Dinos22...are those results with your 1gb of XMS4400??

Just got my stuff the other day and have been steadily pushing it up everyday...

Fatality Sli
3000+ venice 300htt x 8.5 for 2550mhz 1.5v
1gb of xms4400c25pt @ 240mhz 1t..not sure of the timings off of my head as im at work

[chew*]

2.8ghz is sweet, what's there to complain about? Unless it u got a higher overclock on the DFI. Also, software measurement of volts is inaccurate. Measure with a Meter to confirm the volts. Now if only someone can point out where to measure.

measuring point can be found north of the atx connector at the 8 pin IC between the capacitors a little bit north and west of the fan header

[EvilWhiteDragon]

I've been reading across this topic and I'm thinking about buying 1 , but I'm not sure because I like the DFI board also. And with the T1 issue ... Is there a reassonable chance of that being fixed ? If so I will buy this board cause I like abit, my NF7-s (rev.2) is my best bord ever till now.

[tictac]

DDR366 divider tested by forumer...

Abit Fatal1ty AN8 / Bios Version 13 Guru R1
3000+ 9x300 (DDR366 Divider) / 2x512MB OCZ PC4200 EL PE

[dinos22]

i must be a poor communicator.....

I am very happy with initial results ......I did get better OC with lower divider and lower voltage on Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe BUT this is still a new motherboard...in a few months there will be some better bioses around and then we'll be able to compare the results properly....

2.8ghz is sweet, what's there to complain about? Unless it u got a higher overclock on the DFI. Also, software measurement of volts is inaccurate. Measure with a Meter to confirm the volts. Now if only someone can point out where to measure.

Corsair UTT on those results......will do TCCD in a couple of days

Dinos22...are those results with your 1gb of XMS4400??

Just got my stuff the other day and have been steadily pushing it up everyday...

Fatality Sli
3000+ venice 300htt x 8.5 for 2550mhz 1.5v
1gb of xms4400c25pt @ 240mhz 1t..not sure of the timings off of my head as im at work

is there any way you can grab an image of the mobo and highlight the points for us n00bs

measuring point can be found north of the atx connector at the 8 pin IC between the capacitors a little bit north and west of the fan header

Yes....2T...current bios needs to be updated......BUT there is only 2% difference b/t 1T&2T...not a big deal

but he is running on 2T

Nice....where is the bios.....also is that 1T or 2T.....also is there a DDR300 divider there.....REALLY IMPORTANT FOR me for UTT as I want to push higher HTT but RAM tops out....+ don't want high vdimm at 24/7 setup

DDR366 divider tested by forumer...
Abit Fatal1ty AN8 / Bios Version 13 Guru R1
3000+ 9x300 (DDR366 Divider) / 2x512MB OCZ PC4200 EL PE

after 5 hour burn-in at 255MHz and 440xpasses of test#5 i had 20 errors all up....last error appearing on around loop 260......
after reboot I tightened the timings just a bit more......last digit on tictac's suggested timing dropped to 1 (from 2) and went to 259MHz error free......I will need to check the voltage with multimeter and burn in more to get a few more MHz......I can see a stable 260MHz easy

also guys I touched the MOSFET heatsink and it was almost COLD.......either I'm checking at the wrong place or this motherboard RULES

I will also check for COLD BOOT when I get home today.....I left it at 250MHz 1:1 at 3.55Vdimm.......

[thedude17]

Do all the AN8 boards have the stupid incorrect cpu temp problem?

My current board is an Abit and it has the same idiotic problem and I absolutely hate the board because of it. It's great to not know whether your CPU is burning up or not when you're overclocking. Right now my CPU is reading as 64 C. Is it actually 64? Is it 54? 44? Who the ^&$(# knows.


Sorry if I sound bitter, but I was really looking forward to buying an AN8 Ultra and I'm gonna hate having to buy another board because they can't fix a stupid little problem that's been affecting their boards for years.

[dinos22]

it is a little unsettling for me too but i know the temps this CPU reaches normally at these speeds and volts so it's not a big concern.....i also do a sophisticated CPU temp probe test by placing my finger on the base of the heatsink.....since it was Cold-luke warm i don't really get too worried about it......BUT if Abit is monitoring this thread you better fix this damn problem cause temp monitoring is crucial on a heavily overclocked system.....

Do all the AN8 boards have the stupid incorrect cpu temp problem?

My current board is an Abit and it has the same idiotic problem and I absolutely hate the board because of it. It's great to not know whether your CPU is burning up or not when you're overclocking. Right now my CPU is reading as 64 C. Is it actually 64? Is it 54? 44? Who the ^&$(# knows.


Sorry if I sound bitter, but I was really looking forward to buying an AN8 Ultra and I'm gonna hate having to buy another board because they can't fix a stupid little problem that's been affecting their boards for years.

[situman]

hmmm odd, a new board and new cpu, a week 17 venice and im able to run 1T at stock speeds now. Very odd indeed. I guess it was a defective board or my old cpu was a real dud.

[situman]

ok maybe not. hahahahaaa