Xtreme Twinmos Memory!

**nugzo** · 05-27-2005, 04:11 AM

Originally Posted by gundamit

Well I tried putting in both the TMSP CH and the BH UTT and it actually seems to to be showing a bit of promise. Set everything to auto except
CAS = 2
DRAM Bank Interleave = Enabled
DRAM Drive Strength = Level 8
DRAM Data Drive Strength = Level 4
Max Async Latency = 8ns
Read Preamble Time = 6ns
R/W Queue Bypass = 16x
Bypass Max = 7x
32 byte Granularity = Disable(8burst)

I guess I will be playing with it over the weekend. I might have to go with this instead of a 2x1024 set-up. I liking the 3v but just like the Geil 2x1024 pair I tried I can't use a divider lower than 3:4.

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Wont the vencie let u do 1t with 4 dimms? i noticed your poor old winnie will only let u do 2t.

**gundamit** · 05-27-2005, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by mitgsx

I must be lucky, SP BH-5 3200 2 x 512 @ 245 3.25v. They will go higher, just cpu memory controller won't.

Drop the multi down on the CPU and see if you can crack 250@3.3v.

Originally Posted by Garrett

Mine top out @ 265 @ 3.45v

Right up there with the premium OCZ and Mushkin CH UTT. Could you share your bios timing?

Originally Posted by nugzo

Wont the vencie let u do 1t with 4 dimms?

Before they came out, it was hoped the E revisions CPUs (San Diego and Venice) would do just that. Although they won't kick down to DDR333 speed when 4 dimms are used like the Winnies, I believe they still run 2T with four sticks. Memory controllers are improved on them, allowing for higher OC's overall, but you lose a bit of bandwidth clock for clock because of looser latencies on the new memory controller.

**fatfreepork** · 05-29-2005, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by Reefa_Madness

Speaking of codes, I've copied from OC Forums some info pulled from Kingston Value Ram. The first set of numbers are off a 512MB stick which was purchased from Fry's and tested on the same P4 rig as the OCZ. Hit the same 255 at 2-2-2-6 with 3.6v and the second set of numbers was from a retail box at CC of 2x256 which I spotted but left at the store because of the high asking price. I was just interested in seeing if there were any locally and what info was on them so I could pass it along. The first KVR stick is pictured at OCF and has the name coding pattern as I've described below. Here is a link to that thread, see post #73 if you are interested in the picture of the KVR. It is not a great picture, but you can see the peculiar layout of the chip's coding.

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.p...97#post3349097

The 512 stick:
************************************************** ***
Quote:
Originally Posted by Diablo23RD
Sorry, I am bad in taking pics
Kingston B11444.02

D3208DW3T-5U 0449PT01

Copy of my post at OCF (2x256 set):
******************************************

I found a set of 2x256 at a local Circuit City which match the pictures taken by Diablo except for some minor differences. I did not get them, again, because they were priced at $150 after sales tax for 2x256.

Note one item of interest. Usually the Kingston label is across the top and then the numbers below. These chips have the first set of numbers to the right of the Kingston label, so both the name "Kingston" and the first set of numbers are on the top. In many cases, the date is on the second line, and then the chip coding is on the third line. These chips have the coding on the left side of the 2nd row, which is actually across the bottom, then what appears to be the date, plus more coding to the right. All of the second group of numbers are across the bottom row of the chip.

The set I found was coded like this.

First row - label and numbers: KINGSTON 401137.05

then blank space with the circular Winbond "dimples" visible,

followed by the chip code & date: D3208DL5T-5 0416PT01

Hey i just skimmed through this thread and found that i have the same memory. TIme for some hardcore testing!

**Sila** · 05-30-2005, 09:17 AM

Hey i have 2 x 512 BH-5 KHX3000, they do 250 2-2-2-5 @ 3,2

Is there any point in changing then to Twister Speed premium??

Is there any gain? (Damn hate that word "GAIN")

**fatfreepork** · 05-30-2005, 09:26 AM

depends what you are looking for. Twister is Tccd so you will be getting higher Htt but not the tight timings.

**Sila** · 05-30-2005, 09:32 AM

I´m looking for BH-5 on brainpower print, but is there any gain? Would i be able to run 260-270 2-2-2-5 @ 3,2?

What brand is bh-5 and Brain power?

**esdee** · 05-30-2005, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by fatfreepork

depends what you are looking for. Twister is Tccd so you will be getting higher Htt but not the tight timings.

latest twinmos twister have BH5 ... it's written on the HSP too

**Sila** · 05-30-2005, 09:41 AM

I´ve seen that but how well do they OC? There is no point in selling my khx if they are crap OC`ers

I can get 170 euro for my 2x512khx, and get some speed premium for about ??? what, a 120-140euro??

**easypanic** · 05-30-2005, 09:43 AM

Depends where y a from, in .de they can be found for ~150 euro's.

**Sila** · 05-30-2005, 09:45 AM

I´ve found then in norway to 116 euro! (2x512)

**fatfreepork** · 05-30-2005, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by esdee

latest twinmos twister have BH5 ... it's written on the HSP too

oh wow pretty sexy. where can i get these?

**esdee** · 05-30-2005, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by fatfreepork

oh wow pretty sexy. where can i get these?

don't really know yet... but ill update as soon as i find out

**Minstadave** · 05-30-2005, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by esdee

don't really know yet... but ill update as soon as i find out

Geil Value is using UTT CH5/BH5 on brainpower PCBs too, and is dirt cheap.

**esdee** · 05-30-2005, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by Minstadave

Geil Value is using UTT CH5/BH5 on brainpower PCBs too, and is dirt cheap.

there are many UTT options on the market indeed

**Sila** · 05-30-2005, 11:47 AM

Can any one back you op on that?[QUOTE]

**SET** · 05-30-2005, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by Minstadave

Geil Value is using UTT CH5/BH5 on brainpower PCBs too, and is dirt cheap.

You one talks about all the GEIL Value or single a few bring them?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820144310

Thanks

**fatfreepork** · 05-30-2005, 08:16 PM

Yes it uses utt.

**Minstadave** · 05-30-2005, 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by LANero

You one talks about all the GEIL Value or single a few bring them?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820144310

Thanks

That doesn't make any sense

**Minstadave** · 05-30-2005, 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by Sila

Can any one back you op on that?

Check out the OcUK memory forums, several people have got UTT in there modules, so have people here, previously they've used other chips so you need to get a newer batch for UTT based modules. Geil are also using UTT in there Ultra-X (CAS2 and CAS1.5) ranges now too.

**SET** · 05-30-2005, 10:03 PM

UTT is too popular at this moment.

Perhaps I would have to try a few and to see that so they do it.

Thank you very much

**gundamit** · 05-31-2005, 11:50 AM

I'm in for another 2 sticks of the TMSP BH UTT while they're back in stock at Newegg since running mixed CH and BH in a 4x512 configuration didn't get my CPU to where I'd like it to be. This despite the fact that my 2x1024 went really well with Samsung UCCC sticks. But thats it. No more DDR for me. Not another stick. This time I mean it.

Unless of course something comes out that is really spectacular...

**HousERaT** · 05-31-2005, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by gundamit

I'm in from another 2 sticks of the TMSP BH UTT while they're back in stock at Newegg since running mixed CH and BH in a 4x512 configuration didn't get my CPU to where I'd like it to be. This despite the fact that my 2x1024 went really well with Samsung UCCC sticks. But thats it. No more DDR for me. Not another stick. This time I mean it.

Unless of course something comes out that is really spectacular...

Newegg is selling 1A4T Speed Premiums now? Is all of it 1A4T or is it mixed with AA4T?

**Cranox** · 05-31-2005, 01:50 PM

I got two sticks of Twinmos speed premium 3500 ( bh-5 ) ( 2 x 512mb )

2-2-2-5

Stick one
3.1v 244
3.2v 254
3.3v 259
3.4v 262
3.5v 265

Stick two
3.1v 240
3.2v 244
3.3v 247
3.4v 249
3.5v 250

Luckly i can swap the bad stick