Im also curious, what did you do in the bios?Originally Posted by aonic
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Im also curious, what did you do in the bios?
Well i was determined that my Neo2 was a dud so i decided to get a new one.
I picked up today Neo2 and 3200+ 90nm cpu, while i was there i thought ahhh why not. I was really after the 3500+ 90nm but unfortunatly Aus wont have them for another month atleast and my 3500+ 0.13 couldnt do 2.6 stable (0.5 Version).
Neo2 Ultra chip
0420A2
Korea
3200+
0441UPFW
So im expecting alot out of this combo, a guy in ocaus forums picked up a 3200+ 90nm and was able to do 2.75 stable on air.
Ill report later with few screenies just waiting on the xp-90 and Vantec Tornado Fan to arrive.
EDIT: Is it fine to put some AS5 on the NB? Should it cover the whole chip?
It doesnt look healthy what MSI uses
Last edited by [ r2 ]; 11-15-2004 at 08:43 AM.
what did you do? you change th bios or what? please tell
thx perc,
I upgraded to 1.36b bios and it was the same results.. so i went to work.. and when i come back. i was able to OC higher.. i guess it needed time to "burn-in"
one of these days im gona see if i got Taiwan or Korea chipset
anyway to findout without removing the NB fan?
i have a week 37 CPU btw
** MSI Neo2 Platinum NF3 Ultra @ 1.41b
** Athlon64 3200+ 90nm @ 245 x 10 [1.44v]
** 512 OCZ Performance rev2 [204/6-2-2-2]
** eVGA 6800LE @ GT Bios 350/1100
3dmark05 (5,604) | 3dmark03 (12,140)
Information on the eVGA 6800 LE Boot Disk Kit and How to Get It
I have pretty much the same setup as you (replaced the tornado though), cleaned the NB up on my Neo2 board (so little paste!) and covered the whole chip with ceramique paste before refitting the stock HS/fan.So im expecting alot out of this combo, a guy in ocaus forums picked up a 3200+ 90nm and was able to do 2.75 stable on air.
Ill report later with few screenies just waiting on the xp-90 and Vantec Tornado Fan to arrive.
EDIT: Is it fine to put some AS5 on the NB? Should it cover the whole chip?
It doesnt look healthy what MSI uses
Once you have managed to find a stable overclock post your full load temps!
A nice find by Ratax : (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&postcount=97)
the new 1.41 beta bios seems to fix the subzero bug for the msi
Now we need another new bios to correct the given voltage to the Winchester cpu's
0.1v undervolt anyone?
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Yeah i will post with my results, temps, issues and etc...
So you used ceramique paste, do you think arctic silver 5 will be alright to use on the NB?
anyone have any wierd psu problems with this mb? i woke up this morning and my msi-fx system wont boot?? the psu is fine cause im using it in my intel system as i type this but it wont power up my msi anymore??
please see my thread if you have had any issues with your psu. im going crazzy trying to figure this out. the damm thing ran fine all weekend all i did was shut it off and go to sleep for 5 hours then when i woke up it wouldnt turn on??
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=45896
thx perc,
I don't think the temps are horribly wrong. I think they are measured very close to the core before the heat has had a chance to dissapate into the heatsink. Notice that as soon as I shut off Prime95 the temps drop about 10C immediately.
Does anyone know what PLL this mobo uses? As you can see my voltages are way off. I believe setting CPU cool to the right PLL will correct this.
I'm still tweaking this thing trying to get it stable. I have scored a 30s SuperPi time, but between the memory and the CPU I can't seem to get a grasp on what is causing errors. I'm going to run Memtest tomorrow at stock settings at 200 and 275MHz to make sure this memory is performing to specs. This is a pain compared to my 2600 Mobile system! Ahh.. But what fun!
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[SIZE=2]MSI 890FXA-GD70, AMD 1100T, 2x 4G G.Skill F3-17000CL9D, 2x XFX Radeon HD 6850 Black Edition 1GB 256-bit DDR, 180G OCZ PCI-e RevoDrive
I'm having the same problem, see here: http://forum.msi.com.tw/thread.php?threadid=66540
I figured out why not disable the USB keyboard and mouse support in the bios, seems to work so far...
Yeah should be ok as long as you're very careful not to shorten the board with AS5, I used ceramique for both the CPU and NB since it's fully non conductive and many have found the performance is pretty much as good as their own AS5.
I don't think the NB chip is 100% flat so I applied a tiny bit extra paste at the centre and refitted the HS/fan before pushing down on it to make sure the paste would spread evenly, not safe if you are using AS5 since it only takes a tiny amount of excess paste to shorten the board.
Fair enough, ill use AS5 on the NB, ill just spread it using thin plastic or something.
Is there a way to control this with software?
does the msi k8b neo2 platinum like the ocz pc 3200 el platinum with ch-5 chips (dual channel kit)?
Well i have finished setting up the new Neo2 and 3200+
Man i had a handful, ran into issues with xp-90 and XL Pros. Having LED Activity Lights on the Pros, since the ram is higher then normal i couldnt fit my xp-90 in
So XL Pros Neo2 xp-90 combo is NO GO!!!
So i had to use my Venus for now, well maybe later ill get new ram.
Ok havent had any time to o/c, so what temps are you guys getting on 3200+ 90nm and Neo2. Bios reports 39c idle and Speedfan reports 34c. Well ill have to give a good 200Hrs for as5 to settle though and then i can compare.
Pretty pist that i cant use the xp-90 with Vantec tornado Fan, well using the fan right now on the side panel as intake, blowing right at the hsf. Man its fricking loud at full speed, thankfully my case has to fan contoller nobs.
Well so far so good, so can you guys post your cpu temps and sandra memory bandwith benchie. I got 5700/5660 something like that, use to get on the 3500+ 0.13 5900/5825 but thats 200Mhs faster.
Cheers,
33°C Idle and 48°C Load, 2750 MHz @ 1,55V. With 200 MHz on Rams i have
5850/5770 MB/s with Sandra. With 255 MHz @ Rams i have 7520/7440.
Last edited by funkflix; 11-16-2004 at 05:59 AM.
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33c idle in bios?33°C Idle and 48°C Load, 2750 MHz @ 1,55V. With 200 MHz on Rams i have
5850/5770 MB/s with Sandra. With 255 MHz @ Rams i have 7520/7440.
Nice temps by the way, ahh just noticed that you not on air!
Hmmm...strange when i select vcore in bios 'Startup' the bios reports 1.36 so does cpu-z, is that normal or its just undervolting from 1.4?
At the above according to Speedfan the load temp is 46c while priming. Seems to high, maybe a bad mount but i doubt it, i think ill need some time for as5 to settle. What you guys think?
Vantec iceberg basic is the answer, or passive (18mm max)
Works fine for me.Is there a way to control this with software?
In Bios it isn't @ Idle, but there i have 37°C. Other Temps was from Aida32/Everest. Dont think 46°C @ Load is that bad with air!
PC : Asrock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 + Intel Core i5 i2500k + 2 x Asus HD6870 DirectCU + 2x2GB PC12800 G.Skill Eco 7-8-7-24 + Creative X-Fi Titanium PCIe + Scythe Mugen 3.
Digicam : Pentax *istDL2 + Pentax smc DA 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 AL + Cosina F3.5/100mm Makro.
Heimkino : Samsung LE-46B450 FullHD + Arion AF-4000HDCI + Onkyo TX-SR505E + Quadral Quintas 5.0 + Heco Victa 25A.
Yeah i dont mind it, the concern i have is that others temps are lower.In Bios it isn't @ Idle, but there i have 37°C. Other Temps was from Aida32/Everest. Dont think 46°C @ Load is that bad with air!
So im just thinking bad mount or time for as5 to settle?
Like for my 3500+ 0.13 cpu i got that @ 1.5 vcore, so it seems strange.
The 0,09nm cpus are a bit hotter then the 0,13nm, thats all normal!
Bcs the dies of the 0,09nm are bit smaller!
PC : Asrock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 + Intel Core i5 i2500k + 2 x Asus HD6870 DirectCU + 2x2GB PC12800 G.Skill Eco 7-8-7-24 + Creative X-Fi Titanium PCIe + Scythe Mugen 3.
Digicam : Pentax *istDL2 + Pentax smc DA 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 AL + Cosina F3.5/100mm Makro.
Heimkino : Samsung LE-46B450 FullHD + Arion AF-4000HDCI + Onkyo TX-SR505E + Quadral Quintas 5.0 + Heco Victa 25A.
glad it works for you nowA nice find by Ratax : (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&postcount=97)
the new 1.41 beta bios seems to fix the subzero bug for the msi
Got this brand new MSI K8N Neo2 today,check out the stepping!!!
Still hot silicon. CPU will be here next week, and i can't wait to power on this baby!!!
Anyone has a stepping like this ? please post some OC results
So 1.41 fixes the subzero prob?How many can confirm that?
if this is your first night in xtremesystems,
you have to overclock.
I actually just replaced a 0420 Korea board with a 0442 Korea. (even "fresher" silicon!) Haven't put it under the Mach yet, but I can tell you my BH5 over 205MHz problem is gone, so that is a good sign.
edit to add: Purchased the board with the newer NF3 chipset from Newegg last week, after they restocked.
Last edited by mikead_99; 11-16-2004 at 09:55 AM.
.........current project, make the 135i faster
I have a pair of DC KHX3200 BH-5 2x512...
i assume you are using a booster right?
can you remember the BIOS it comes with?I will run a winnie on it and im in no mood to hot flash it :-(
/me is happy
if this is your first night in xtremesystems,
you have to overclock.
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