Neo2, 3500 Winnie, Mach II GT, OCZ TCCD -

[esoteradactyl]

esoteradactyl: was there a difference in stepping between the CPU's that worked and didn't? or even different weeks? mine here is a CBBFD 0432 and it dont work. mine makes it to windows then freezes under LS. Somtimes rebooting, mostly not. and again only under LS.
anyone else with similar stepping or week? or could this just be any random CPU?

im not sure which stepping my old cpu was but i will check this new one sometime tomorrow.

[Cashman]

So I can assume that the Newcastles work perfectly at any minus temp??

If that the case, its a real shame but Im gonna sell me Winnie and get a 3500+ Newcastle

Such a shame that the Phase changers have to resort to these measures

[Cashman]

http://www.lejabeach.com/MSIK8N/k8nneo2.html

Anyone tried the 1.37mod bios??

Step 8 reports to have fixed the Temp shutdown? Does that mean that it helps the SUBZERO booting issues?

[Juspriss]

Don't use the 1.37 ( 1.3B7 ) the 1.35 & 1.36 are betters .

I want to see the benchs of this conf! WORK!

Regards

[d]g[ts]

So I can assume that the Newcastles work perfectly at any minus temp??

If that the case, its a real shame but Im gonna sell me Winnie and get a 3500+ Newcastle

Such a shame that the Phase changers have to resort to these measures

Newcastles work great with Phase change. I had a 3500 newcastle in my board, and traded it for this winchester.

[Bulldog20]

Lo gents, been playing with a 939 and found on the MSI running the new 0.09 chips, the temp when running phase change plays up and reads upto 200c.
Under -25 the chip temp in the bios goes mad. Sits at 40c odd and then out of the blue changes to 221c etc. If I up the vcore to 1.8v, th temp stays around 43c in the bios. When the vcore is stock, it plays up. The system locks when the temp reads 221c.
To start with the system didn't boot, but then I noticed if I didn't let the chiller get below -15 the system booted and worked fine.
Must be a bios update for this one pending
Seems to work fine with FX53 and 55, just reads approx 40c most of the time.

Cheers

[Cashman]

really strange issues this!

I have the CPU stable at 2.55ghz on stock volts on the stock cooler, im sure if we could make these work with the Phase change systems we would be lookig at 3.2ghz!!!

We gotta get this sorted!!!

[jinu117]

yeah definitely. Non of bios even modded 1.37 boots 90nm.
However, newcastle boots just fine :P (yes I got one).
I liked the way how evap is sitting on Neo2... getting easily 5c temp better than the unoptimized way on evap temp :P...
Just setting things up... since I am moving from S754 just minor driver installation is required... in fact, just testing stability of system now.
Now... how the hell do you guys mount fan over RAM on this thing? My EB will heat up nicely once booster goes in.

[Cashman]

To cool your RAM I have been using one of these badboys

http://www.siliconacoustics.com/zalmanbr123.html

Its a Zalman BR123 you can attatch upto 3 fans to it, it fixes onto your PCI screws and doesnt get in the way of anything but a 92mm fan will reach the RAM perfectly

Its what Im using!!

NB: Ive just found an FX53 that I may get, atleast I know that thing will work ok

Such a shame tho, this 90nm malarky is destined to fly!!

[jinu117]

Blast me... I was using the exact thing on my rig... in fact I have few of them laying around... I just couldn't use it normally on K8NE (S754 setup) so it didn't even register my mind when I got my 939 setup... lol
Thanks.


Now... THIS is from MSI. Just shows you what kind of support we can expect...

[q]Hi,

There are no bios revision for this with the Prometeia Mach II GT. Please try swapping out different cpu fan to resolve this issue.

Thanks[/q]

[jinu117]

Tried booting with stock HSF, disabling ALL thermal throttling and then trying phase again?

Absolutely... I think I tried just about everything imaginable. A full roll of seal string used confirms to that. I am running low on seal string now... next upgrade probably is mach II baker block mod so I won't have to worry about seal string ever once it runs out.

[Cashman]

Where do you get the evap upgraded to the baket block? From PC Ice? How much does he charge?

Im sure one of the genious's here could mod the bios to remove all thermal monitoring?

Or cant I just move the thermal diode from under the CPU to somewhere a bit warmer ?

PS... Jinu glad the Zalman arms helped

[jinu117]

I dunno, just thinking about it for time being.
Few places comes to mind... 1) baker himself if he isn't too busy. 2) PC Ice. Never talked to him, etc but I know both this guys are local to me.
3) xtwerkz.com - bout mile off from my office. Got to know those two people to well over time now (Got my peltier stuff from them, got mach I repaired from them, if price is right, I might just do it there)

[esoteradactyl]

here's the pic of the cpu stepping

[jinu117]

Holy... ****
The 130nm 3500+ I got seems to be a jewel. I will find out how it does end of day but... default voltage, it is priming @ 2.76ghz right now for last 20 mins. Should LDT be 3x once I go over 250FSB? :P I am thinking maybe I don't need winchester to hit the magical 3ghz for myself at least. My stable OC is usually 50-100mhz above prime stable... so I have feeling I will be just fine.
CBAXC 0435....

[d]g[ts]

thank you esoteradactyl that says to me that it's a random thing, as your is only a few away from mine. same week except the serial is about 100 from mine. What a bummer.

[jinu117]

Random thing or most of them. 3 winchesters 3 duds for me. In fact, majority of people got winnie here with phasecooling isn't working out. Of course, it is not statiscaly viable as there aren't too many yet. We shall see how things unfolds.

[Bulldog20]

On the winnie the temp reads 200c under -20 odd, thats the PROBLEM!!!
I had tested it fully and thats why they will not boot. Run you unit to -15 and boot the system manually. It will boot. Then enter the monitor in the bios and watch it yourself as the unit chills lower. It will spike to 200c odd and lock hard.
If you get the vcore up striaght away you can just run it.

MSI update the bios to ignore this error please

Cheers