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    Quote Originally Posted by The Virus
    What is the max HTT you can put for 200fsb??? When i get my FX55 I'd like to keep it at 200fsb and use the multi only. Im shooting for 14x200fsb or higher.
    What do you have to say about this onepagebook??? How high do you think i can go with 200fsb???

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Virus
    What do you have to say about this onepagebook??? How high do you think i can go with 200fsb???

    Yes Sir, you can get 5x htt with 200x14

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Virus
    What do you have to say about this onepagebook??? How high do you think i can go with 200fsb???
    But higher HTT multiplier does nearly nothing in terms of performance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thephenom
    But higher HTT multiplier does nearly nothing in terms of performance.
    Says who?? Is that an official fact??? Maybe onepagebook can comment on this.

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    MAAANN, ICH WANT MY DAMN Neo2 NOOWWW AND TEST MY DAMN 3200+ AND MY GSKILL!!! (the same as you have, mdzcpa)....

    but we have 11.30am now here in germany and normally the parcel-service comes until 1pm on saturdays....and when not, it means, that i've to w8 until monday

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    My Gskill does no more than 272 1:1 2.5,3,3,7.One module does 272 the other does 278 at those timings.More volts does not seem to help.

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    To reach higher HTT i have change ras to cas to 4

    Max so far is 281

    I have to use htt x3 over 240 otherwise its unstable.Of course it could be this motherboard thats holding me back.

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    A higher HTT don't help, well at least on my S754 3200+ it didn't.

    HTT is how fast the processor talks to IO subsystems. (NIC's, other cpus ect) In our case, the HTT exceeds the rest of the hardware in speed so it makes no diffrence.

    However with PCI-X it might actually start to make a diffrence.

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    Tonytiger you should RMA it, it is advertised to run 275mhz so I'm sure you wouldnt have a problem doing so.

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    I got memory from :-http://www.excaliberpc.com/product_...roducts_id=4242.Took only 3 days to the UK.I need to do some further testing, maybe onepagebook could give me some tips before i RMA them.Running memtest #5 after about 5 loops i get errors above 272 for one module and 278 for the other.Only lowering the timings can i get 272 dc.The max is around 280.More volts does not help.

    Its nice and stable @11*265 2.5,3,3,7 but i was hoping for 292*10.

    I am using bios 1.36b on the msi k8n neo2.

    I would be gratefull for any help before i RMA them.

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    The thing to understand is that there can be a lot of variables causing instability on the NEO2....it might not be just the ram. You hafta make sure that you manually set the Mem speed and timings, make sure the HT can handle the HTT you are using (adjust to x3, x4, accordingly), stay away from sata channels 1/2, know that sata channels 3/4 are quirky above 260htt, manually lock the AGP/PCI bus at 67, have a solid PSU, etc, etc.

    It has taken a few weeks to work all the wrinkles out of this NEO2 I have. Adding the Gskill was just the final step. I was already getting my Corsair 3200 XL up to 265 2.5-3-3-7 before I swapped.

    Also, higher HTT, in and of itself, does NOTHING, for performance. Forget about HTT as any kind of performance determiner. Instead, use HTT as needed to get your max memory speed and CPU speed...find the sweet spot. If you have memory that can run high speeds at 1:1, then of course you will want high HTT...but only because you want the mem speed raised. Raising HTT and running lower mem speeds using the dividors adds little, if any , performance. Same goes for the CPU speed. Raise the HTT as necessary to max out your CPU with your available multipliers. Again, the key is to find an HTT that maxes both your memory and CPU speeds...nothing more.

    Tonytiger, if you have some specific questions please ask away and I can try to help. What are your BIOS settings in the core cell area? What is the full hardware specs?
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    Best time was a far east prescott at 21sec, right? Best for fx was 23 with bh5 @290 on a cascade or something right?

    Pretty good considering you probably didn't even need a vmod to get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithan
    Best time was a far east prescott at 21sec, right? Best for fx was 23 with bh5 @290 on a cascade or something right?

    Pretty good considering you probably didn't even need a vmod to get it.
    Yep...no mods to any of the hardware. No volt mods. Stock Mach II. Just plug and play.

    Oh...and no "optimizing" patches for Super Pi either
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    Hi,
    Thanks for the replies.This is my settings on the core cell menu:-

    dimms on 1&2

    memory:-

    200mhz
    1T
    2.5
    3
    3
    7

    sata raid 0 is on port 3/4

    htt *3
    mem voltage 2.75 (higher does not help)
    cpu multi is 10 (or lower for testing) max my fx53 will is 2.93Ghz
    cpu voltage is 1.75
    agp =67


    My Spec:-

    s939 fx53 cooled by mach2 lian li kit
    MSI k8n neo2 bios 1.36b
    2* 512 Gskill pc4400 2.5 3 3 7 bu808 pcb
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    2 *36GB raptors in raid 0
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    I might try bios 1.35 and lowering htt next.

    TonyTiger

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    Congrats, mike :thumbsup: You are getting higher and higher

    Maybe you can get near 24seconds with the A64 tweaker!? Or did ya already use that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SAE
    Congrats, mike :thumbsup: You are getting higher and higher

    Maybe you can get near 24seconds with the A64 tweaker!? Or did ya already use that?
    Have never use it Linky please?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdzcpa
    Have never use it Linky please?
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=37345

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonytiger
    Hi,
    Thanks for the replies.This is my settings on the core cell menu:-

    dimms on 1&2

    memory:-

    200mhz
    1T
    2.5
    3
    3
    7

    sata raid 0 is on port 3/4

    htt *3
    mem voltage 2.75 (higher does not help)
    cpu multi is 10 (or lower for testing) max my fx53 will is 2.93Ghz
    cpu voltage is 1.75
    agp =67


    My Spec:-

    s939 fx53 cooled by mach2 lian li kit
    MSI k8n neo2 bios 1.36b
    2* 512 Gskill pc4400 2.5 3 3 7 bu808 pcb
    audigy2 zs
    6800gt cooled by Exos
    2 *36GB raptors in raid 0
    pioneer a05 dvdRW
    Antec Truepower 550w

    I might try bios 1.35 and lowering htt next.

    TonyTiger
    To confirm:

    DIMMs 1&2 are the first two consecutive slots above the CPU

    You have not enabled the "aggressive" timings option under core cell menu

    A big difference for me is that I found my Raptors in RAID 0 were not working well even on channels 3/4 above 260htt. I ended up using a SATA card I had laying around. It solved the issue for me and opened up the higher HTT ranges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SAE
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    Watch CodeRed's sig

    He is the author. Good luck, Mike

    Thanks! I'll be going after 24 secs now!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdzcpa
    Yep...no mods to any of the hardware. No volt mods. Stock Mach II. Just plug and play.

    Oh...and no "optimizing" patches for Super Pi either
    qué??

    optimizing patches for super pi? got some more info on that?
    - are they considered "legit"?
    - ...

    http://users.tpg.com.au/spark69/A64T...eaker_V031.zip by codered, mod here I think

    *edit* I see SAE posted it already
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    Thanks for the info.No the agressive timings are disabled ,dimms are in the 1&2 closet to the cpu.

    I am only testing with memtest and not booting into windows would sata raid effect this?I am booting from a cd and also have the legacy usb disabled (kb/storage option etc) as this seems to add more errors.I only get 2 errors at 275 ,2.5,3,3,7.If i raise the vdimm above 2.75 i seem to get more errors.

    Just tried htt x2 stiill the same.Might try 1.35 this seems the one gskill tested with also.

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    sorry to tell you that man , but i had 26 sec at 3070 , if my cpu allow me to have 3270 i'd could have 24 sec , BH5 is better for sure.
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    Well of course bh5 is better. BH5 would be 2-2-2. But BH5 would also need some top notch single sided sticks and close to 4v to do that.
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    i was at 3,4v to have this time, it's not so much.
    Edit : of course you can do significantly better with the A64 tweaker.
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    you need cascade misteroadster

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    Ln2 !!!!
    An FX at 3600mhz can do the 21sec without japanese's tricks , just the tweaker is needed and 2K3 server
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