[TR] AMD reveals K12: New ARM and x86 cores are coming

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I think one of amd:s problem is that for convincing investors (or something) they start talking about unreleased products years and years before the launch. They should propably stop doing that so that competition would not have any products to response at the launch date (now competition has many years to think competing products for K12).

I might be wrong but i think the ATI side of the company has covered up their future products bit better and therefore many Radeons have been positive suprises in terms of performance.

That isnt a problem for AMD, for years and years their talk and final product have not that many things in common :-) , so in essence its best deceptive tactic :P.
Anyhow, even if they would deliver , intel is MUCH more forthcoming with their products and has been, in cpu market you need stability in order to plan for the future, large OEMs must know whats coming so they can build around it.
I pretty much know whats coming from intel in 12 months ,process node, cores, caches, chipsets .We all know whats coming, not that theres something interesting coming, but we know it isnt.And further down the line we even know some things whats coming down the line in like 2 years.Again, not anything really interesting ;-).If amd doesnt do something, in 2017 were gonna be buying yet another intel 4 core, with yet bigger unused igp (for the desktop part), on yet another chipset with a 1 cpu generation lifetime.On ddr4 though, thats gonna be probably somewhat more pricey.
As for AMD, pretty much ANYTHING more powerful than what they already have would be a surprise. So no need to hide it really.
It just dawned on me, until around 2017 most powerful amd cpu is gonna be am3+`s piledriver fx ...