WCG has only had one GPU project and no way to know for sure if there will be another. Just the same you might want to consider this announcement if you run 32 bit Linux and a Nvidia GPU.
Deprecation plans for 32-bit Linux-x86 CUDA toolkit and CUDA driver
thinking im going to be putting linux on my dedicated dual opteron rigs when i get my fileserver up and running, now if I can only figure out how to get the undervolting program installed.. i spent like 4 hours last time i had linux trying to get this to work to end up just getting irritated and unistalling it and putting winserver back on em for that reason lol..
thinking one 32bit one 64bit cruncher, and im gonna be putting them in cases and shoving them to the backroom and forgetting about em for the forseeable future
I've spent way longer than that trying to install something that wasn't written for my system, trying all sorts of things until I got it up and running. I'm sure Dave will puff about how that would never happen in Windows. Truth is it wouldn't, the install would have failed in the first thirty seconds and and that would be it, no other options. Overclocking and undervolting are not big in the Linux community and are generally left to the BIOS.
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i did thisOriginally Posted by PoppaGeek
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1669698
spent many many hours trying to get it to work as it works for anubis and others, but nope..
WHen it comes to many things in Linux everything has to be 100% correct. Sometimes you might have to compile something a few times to get it to work because a step is being missed, a command is not 100% correct or something is missing, usually a dependency. When compiling the text can be scrolling by so fast that there is an error you do not see. If others have gotten it to work there is something different in your setup or you are doing something wrong.
Not trying to be hard on ya but Linux can be a real b1tch trying to get somethings to work. But USUALLY it all boils down to someone somewhere made a mistake. Make sure you have all dependencies. Triple check everything you do, use copy and paste for the instructions on the web site. Watch the text scrolling by with you hand set to hit CONTROL C to stop it if you see an error. If a build fails do a make clean and start again.
Once I needed to setup a terminal server for a bank of modems. Choices were Linux, FreeBSD and Windows NT. Spent 2 weeks compiling kernels and reading and searching the web trying to figure out why I could not get either Linux or FreeBSD to see the modems. Company had drivers for both. Windows NT worked fine except we had to reboot every 3 days because of NTs memory leaks. I never did get it to work never figured out why. It was all I did for 2 weeks. Even tried different distros, reinstalled and started from scratch. Even tried ancient mystic chants and curses.
Good luck
EDIT:
I cannot read the HardOCP had to stop years ago, white text on black background kills my eyes.
On the first link I posted notice they had directions for specific versions of Ubuntu. What distro did you try before and which one are you going to try this time?
Last edited by PoppaGeek; 11-27-2013 at 08:29 AM.
always ubuntu for some reason.WHen it comes to many things in Linux everything has to be 100% correct. Sometimes you might have to compile something a few times to get it to work because a step is being missed, a command is not 100% correct or something is missing, usually a dependency. When compiling the text can be scrolling by so fast that there is an error you do not see. If others have gotten it to work there is something different in your setup or you are doing something wrong.
Not trying to be hard on ya but Linux can be a real b1tch trying to get somethings to work. But USUALLY it all boils down to someone somewhere made a mistake. Make sure you have all dependencies. Triple check everything you do, use copy and paste for the instructions on the web site. Watch the text scrolling by with you hand set to hit CONTROL C to stop it if you see an error. If a build fails do a make clean and start again.
Once I needed to setup a terminal server for a bank of modems. Choices were Linux, FreeBSD and Windows NT. Spent 2 weeks compiling kernels and reading and searching the web trying to figure out why I could not get either Linux or FreeBSD to see the modems. Company had drivers for both. Windows NT worked fine except we had to reboot every 3 days because of NTs memory leaks. I never did get it to work never figured out why. It was all I did for 2 weeks. Even tried different distros, reinstalled and started from scratch. Even tried ancient mystic chants and curses.
Good luck
EDIT:
I cannot read the HardOCP had to stop years ago, white text on black background kills my eyes.
On the first link I posted notice they had directions for specific versions of Ubuntu. What distro did you try before and which one are you going to try this time?
and there is a step by step on there that anubis used and it worked for the same hardware, i copy paste the same stuff no work..
silly linux always making the mundane easy stuff the hardest part.. to undervolt in
windows
install program
open
click button
DONE
linux
type this command
type this command
type this command
type this command
type this command
look around for a while
type this command
you might have to type this command
type this command
type this command
see if it works, if it doesnt start again...
lol, im gonna get these working.. also im going to be running them on wireless so that should be fun..
hahaha
One thing you might try is appending this to the end of you make command line
Code:&> results.txt
so $make
becomesCode:make &> results.txt
Then you can use more results.txt and look for errors or missing dependencies.
It also allows you to run all those commands into a script and transform the whole command list into ./dostuff.sh without the little issue of infecting yourself with every virus and trojan under the sun from that Windows double-click install.
I compile software now and then on my Slackware machine using the SlackBuild system. You just download the build script and source code and use the command ./<programname>.SlackBuild and it creates a package that will install the program and let you uninstall and update it as well. Most of the time you don't need to do any compiling though as there are thousands of binary packages you can just install and go. With Mint, Ubuntu etc they have pretty good dependency management so you don't need to worry about that. Slackware, however, does not hold your hand.
I also really don't trust anything as insecure as Windows to have direct access to my hardware. Once you have the capacity to directly alter clock and voltage settings from the OS, one malicious virus and your expensive CPU is toast.
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i havnt gotten a virus in over 5 years.. and i dont have virus scanner installed, just do scans about once a year, do tons of torrenting etc..
same thing could happen with linux, its just harder to install so it doesnt happen as often
i live by the rule if i dont trust it i dont click it..
dont get me wrong linux is cool, just a tad too unessisarily complicated.
No, the same thing doesn't happen with Linux for several reasons, not the least being the million to one ratio of viruses in Windows compared to Linux. You don't even have to click anything to become infected in Windows. "Drive-by" infections are common place and legitimate web sites often display advertising from unknown places which frequently contain viruses. It's happened here and on several other high profile forums that display ads that I visit regularly. Smaller forums are even more vulnerable.
Everyone claims that Linux is overly complicated because those who use it prefer the command line and that's the way we explain how to do things. We use the command line because it's so powerful. If you want simple, use the graphical package manager, but compare apples to apples. The complains about how complicated something is always say that you just click on something to install it in Windows. Yep you do ... after you've screwed around finding it on some random third party site, hoping it's not loaded with malware, downloading it and THEN doing the oh so simple double click and, oh and by the way enjoy the new "toolbar". Is the application you want for a different version of Windows? Guess you're boned then, hey.
In a modern Linux distro you do a quick search of the software repository and install (oh wait, isn't that just a couple of clicks?) from a known source with a vested interest in protecting themselves and their users from malware of any kind. No hunting across multiple sites all claiming to be the best and greatest unless you are after something genuinely obscure or specialised. If you REALLY want something that's been written and packaged for a different distribution, you can go deeper and build it yourself for your system. You have options.
People who complain about how complicated Linux is have made it complicated all on their own.
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[QUOTE=NKrader;5218194]always ubuntu for some reason.
and there is a step by step on there that anubis used and it worked for the same hardware, i copy paste the same stuff no work..
silly linux always making the mundane easy stuff the hardest part.. to undervolt in
windows
install program
open
click button
DONE
I'm all for using whatever works. I've got rigs running Windows 7, OSX, and Linux. Usually in dual boot format. That being said installing W7 and programs on it isn't always that simple. Prime example, my latest install on the brand new Samsung 1Tb laptop drive. W7Home Premium would even finish installing before it gave me major errors. I wiped and then reinstalled W7Home only to get a very specific error message. I got a couple of error messages that I attempted to correct using command lines. Unfortunately there was still one error that would not go away. The gist was that my new laptop drive was incompatible with the drivers available in the Recovery Discs. Unfortunately the solution that Intel recommended didn't work, and they recommended I contact Toshiba. Finally I got the drive and laptop working,but i had to install a trial version of W7Pro. And now Adobe Flash Player won't work using Firefox. So yeah, even Windows can be a major pain in the ass.
Desktop rigs:
Oysterhead- Intel i5-2320 CPU@3.0Ghz, Zalman 9500AT2, 8Gb Patriot 1333Mhz DDR3 RAM, 120Gb Kingston V200+ SSD, 1Tb Seagate HD, Linux Mint 17 Cinnamon 64 bit, LG 330W PSU
Flying Frog Brigade-Intel Xeon W3520@2.66Ghz, 6Gb Hynix 1066Mhz DDR3 RAM, 640Gb Hitachi HD, 512Mb GDDR5 AMD HD4870, Mac OSX 10.6.8/Linux Mint 14 Cinnamon dual boot
Laptop:
Colonel Claypool-Intel T6600 Core 2 Duo, 4Gb 1066Mhz DDR3 RAM, 1Gb GDDR3 Nvidia 230M,240Gb Edge SATA6 SSD, Windows 7 Home 64 bit
Yeah. Compiling the odd thing while your system keeps on trucking is such a pain.
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Since Ubuntu and Ubuntu based distros, like Mint, are the most popular I am including them. I can add others as requested but there are too many to try and do them other than as needed. The Icon for Terminal looks very similar in most distros and desktops.
Try holding CONTROL + ALT keys and hit t. In Gnome based GUIs it should open the Terminal.
In Ubuntu using the Unity desktop:
Mint with the Cinnamon Desktop
Click on Menu and either click the Terminal Icon, circled in red, or type Terminal in the search box and click on the icon in the results. You can also click on the Icon in the bar along the bottom of the screen. Using the Mate desktop the icon looks the same as the one pictured.
This is the Terminal or Command Line or CLI, Command Line Interface. On the line are Username@hostname ~$. The ~ means usernames home directory or $HOME. If you are running as root user or superuser then instead of $ you will see #. Do not run as root user unless you really need to. Exit will get you out of root or supersuser.
So I am logged in as user poppageek on machine hostname ghostN and am in my home directory /home/poppageek/
When you see a box with commands such as:
you can copy the line and paste it in a terminal window and hit enter. The above command says give me elevated powers(sudo), get and install (apt-get install) the debian/ubuntu based packages boinc-client and boinc-manger.Code:sudo apt-get install boinc-client boinc-manager
All unix like systems have levels of permissions to view, change or execute files. Sudo allows you to execute some commands you do not normally have permission to do. It is a way for the OS to protect itself from our mistakes.
apt-get commands are Debian package commands. Red Hat based distros like Fedora use yum.
Linux Terminal Command Reference
Last edited by PoppaGeek; 12-01-2013 at 03:02 PM.
What is Linux.
Linux is a kernel. It is the operating system at it's core.
Utilities such as ls -la, rm -r or cd are mostly tools from the GNU project. The GNU project also has their own kernel but their open source utilities are always packaged with Linux kernels and distros.
Programs like Gedit and Midnight Commander are written by contributors to open source.
The engine for the graphical desktops is the X Windowing System from the X.org open source project.
Desktops such as Cinnamon, Unity, Gnome and KDE are graphical User Interfaces that run on X.
Distributions such as Debian, Slackware and Red Hat bundle the Linux kernel, GNU utilities and open source programs, adding their own installers, packagers and sometimes setup the distro towards a particular goal. Such as ease of install, ease of use for beginners, for corporate/enterprise users or as servers for web, database or firewalls. There are several for system recovery live CDs that do not require installation and several that do minimal installs for systems with limited resources, such as slow CPUs or low memory.
Some distributions like Ubuntu and Mint and Fedora will use the packaging system and the repositories of other distributions such as Debian or Red Hat to further refine the way the distro installs or is setup. Usually what desktops are bundled is a major difference among distros.
The point here is everything is built on top of something else. Start with a Linux kernel add utilities and programs for installation, setup and management. Add X so you can add and run Gnome or Cinnamon desktop.
To run a command line only, no GUI or desktop is actually just running Linux without the many additions that are made to have a desktop.
Last edited by PoppaGeek; 12-01-2013 at 11:54 AM.
Does ctrl +alt + t open a terminal in other Gui's besides gnome?
Richland 6790K @ 4.713 Ghz / 2208 NB / 1123 gpu / 2304 Ram [96 Bclk]
F2A85-M Pro, Mushkin Black 2133, iGPU (8760D)
9.7L case (excluding 230mm fan) or 11.6L w/2nd rad fan
It does in Cinnamon. I _THINK_ many desktops are based on Gnome. Unity, Cinnamon and Mate are gnome based. I'll add that in the above post.
Last edited by PoppaGeek; 12-01-2013 at 03:05 PM.
The forums software keeps adding the [URL] tag to the "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise-backports main restricted universe multiverse" line. This could cause someone problems. Anyone know how to get it not to add the [URL]tag. I take it out it shows back up when I save changes.It does not do it when it is in a [CODE] box but does otherwise.
When I want people to be able to cut and paste stuff with complex strings I use the [CODE] tags.
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I don't want them to just afraid they will.
I am so looking forward to SteamOS. I also look forward to the day I live in a Windows free home and this is the one thing that has been needed to accomplish that. I do NOT like game consoles. They are not an option for me. Besides they do not run boinc.
Valve now a card-carrying member of The Linux Foundation, 'one of many ways Valve is investing in the advancement of Linux gaming'
Valve Announces SteamOS Linux Distro, Download Soon and Free Forever
Will be interesting to see what distro it is built on.
Last edited by PoppaGeek; 12-04-2013 at 09:19 AM.
I love Linux, just spent 4 hours trying to get a wireless card working that is said to be "plug and play" "should automatically recognize it"
Lol.. Nope, and I can't even figure out how to install a driver..
Gonna need some info.
USB? Built in on a laptop? PCI on a desktop? Does not work how? Linux not seeing it? Sees it but won't work on network? Can ping router but no internet? DHCP?
Since you say it is supposed to be plug and play I assume a common chipset. type in a console dmesg and see what chipset. DO NOT care what manufacture is. Linksys, Netgear mean nothing. Common are Realtek and Broadcom
Here is a Realtek chipset on USB using the rtl8192cu driver for interface wlan1
Also type ifconfig in a terminal and see how many interfaces show up. Wireless will be wlan0 or wlan1 etc.[39606.846026] usb 2-2: new high-speed USB device number 28 using ehci-pci
[39606.984072] usb 2-2: New USB device found, idVendor=7392, idProduct=7811
[39606.984088] usb 2-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
[39606.984097] usb 2-2: Product: 802.11n WLAN Adapter
[39606.984105] usb 2-2: Manufacturer: Realtek
[39606.984113] usb 2-2: SerialNumber: 00e04c000001
[39607.565628] rtl8192cu: Chip version 0x10
[39607.655727] rtl8192cu: MAC address: 80:1f:02:70:89:45
[39607.655745] rtl8192cu: Board Type 0
[39607.655961] rtlwifi: rx_max_size 15360, rx_urb_num 8, in_ep 1
[39607.656066] rtl8192cu: Loading firmware rtlwifi/rtl8192cufw.bin
[39607.657490] usbcore: registered new interface driver rtl8192cu
[39607.678128] ieee80211 phy1: Selected rate control algorithm 'rtl_rc'
[39607.679169] rtlwifi: wireless switch is on
[39607.747007] rtl8192cu: MAC auto ON okay!
[39607.785634] rtl8192cu: Tx queue select: 0x05
[39608.152993] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan2: link is not ready
[39608.154083] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan2: link is not ready
[39609.762677] wlan2: authenticate with 6c:fd:b9:5e:46:56
[39609.788795] wlan2: send auth to 6c:fd:b9:5e:46:56 (try 1/3)
[39609.798259] wlan2: authenticated
[39609.801417] wlan2: associate with 6c:fd:b9:5e:46:56 (try 1/3)
[39609.807622] wlan2: RX AssocResp from 6c:fd:b9:5e:46:56 (capab=0x411 status=0 aid=10)
[39609.807745] wlan2: associated
[39609.807868] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wlan2: link becomes ready
lsmod shows driver loadedeth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 24:b6:fd:16:fb:f9
UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
lo Link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:65536 Metric:1
RX packets:5638 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:5638 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:580381 (580.3 KB) TX bytes:580381 (580.3 KB)
wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr e4:d5:3d:73:e8:85
inet addr:192.168.1.127 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
inet6 addr: fe80::e6d5:3dff:fe73:e885/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:194821 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:106118 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:183283553 (183.2 MB) TX bytes:18333944 (18.3 MB)
wlan2 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 80:1f:02:70:89:45
inet addr:192.168.1.147 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
inet6 addr: fe80::821f:2ff:fe70:8945/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:11 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:38 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:1760 (1.7 KB) TX bytes:7682 (7.6 KB)
You will not see the periods between driver name and numbers, i added them for readability.poppageek@dell-M5040 ~ $ lsmod
Module Size Used by
rtl8192cu.................67699 0
rtlwifi...............................79673 1 rtl8192cu
rtl8192c_common...........48779 1 rtl8192cu
ums_realtek....................17949 0
nls_iso8859_1.................12713 1
All else fails do this. It shows all drivers loaded for wireless 802.11
Again I added periods.poppageek@ghostN ~ $ lsmod | grep mac80211
mac80211............606457.....3.....rtlwifi,rtl81 92c_common,rtl8192cu
cfg80211..............510937.....2.....mac80211,rt lwifi
Last edited by PoppaGeek; 12-08-2013 at 11:29 AM.
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