Nvidia unveils the GeForce GTX 780 Ti

[LordEC911]

Did you overlook where I said "on even ground"? I'll reiterate for you:
quiet mode (stock setting) vs. Titan stock setting
OR
uber mode vs Titan@maxed targets

Titan and the 290X are equally fast if you value a fair comparison - that's a fact. Don't fall for most of the English speaking reviews - they are biased towards AMD (maybe not even intentionally) by not or not properly pre-heating their cards and by testing uber mode vs Titan/780 stock settings with a temp target of 80C.

Read the review links I posted if you don't believe me. And don't quote selectively, quote whole sentences.

Ok... Where was all these "even footing" "we need to change our testing/benching methodology" the past 2-3 years?
Why do you need to shift the parameters of the test? Why can't you test stock vs stock?
That's right because the results don't show what you want.

Source for your 300+W claim?
The 290X certainly can, 306,88W:
http://ht4u.net/reviews/2013/amd_rad...ew/index21.php

You do understand how an average works, right? In some games a card may pull more than the average, in others less. You won't find better power consumption data than what I posted.
And maybe you also overlooked where I said that the 290X wasn't as awful in perf/W compared to the competition as Fermi was.

And you are the one who should make up your mind. What is it now - Titan killer? Then compare it to Titan which it doesn't beat. Or GTX 780 killer? Okay, if you want to call 10-15% a "killer", fine. But then also use the GTX 780 power numbers instead of Titans: 189W (GTX 780) vs 239W (290X quiet mode). That is a hefty 50W more.

Look at any GTX480 review.
No I don't know what average means... please explain.

I bet I can because those results look extremely strange. GTX780 and Titan pulling less than 200w?
There is something screwy going on there because those results don't reflect what other sites have found.

More evidence for 290x power drinking ways.
*snip*

Ahhh... good old scientific method, lets just go ahead and throw you out the window, we don't need you.

All I hear is "ifs" "ands" and "buts," don't worry about comparing what is, we can only discuss what could be.