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[figuretti]

I'll make a list of some items we need to know while seeing this benchs
- Temperature: they took the GPU-Z readings... we don't know if the can be trusted right now (first, it's not updated, second, the GPU has various sensors to read the temp, we don't know if the readings are correct, plus, we don't know nothing about the fan profile of the card)
- Power consumption: first, it's total system power consumption... second, they use Furmark.. from what I was reading in other forums, Nvidia detects Furmark and their cards run in "safe mode", we don't know if the 290X are in full power or "safe mode", just look at the 280X power, it's 70 watts behind, I think that's a little too much
- Clocks: the Nvidia cards has GPU Boost... because the clocks are always changing, they use the "stock clocks" on the graphs, but probably the Titan & 780 clocks where near the Ghz mark too while benching, but not while in Furmark...
Aaaaannnddd.. this is probably the best i can do now... at least we got something like a confirmation about launch date (Oct 24)

[Buckster]

my Nvidia card doesn't ? (GTX 570 SOC) - my system pulls >500W from the wall running furmark (3770k + Gene V system)

[nossy23]

- Power consumption: first, it's total system power consumption... second, they use Furmark.. from what I was reading in other forums, Nvidia detects Furmark and their cards run in "safe mode", we don't know if the 290X are in full power or "safe mode", just look at the 280X power, it's 70 watts behind, I think that's a little too much

Actually no, it's 404 Watts under Furmark for the complete system. And Furmark puts almost all of the load on the GPU, the CPU does almost nothing. It's 62 Watts more than the Titan under load.

[Levish]

My (virtual) money is the R9 290 coming in around the $399 range and the R9 290X coming in around $499 for ref / std cards a bit more (+$50) for cards bundled with games or over clocked cards.

At those price points they'd be great bargain alternatives to the GTX 780's

Only reason I am leaning in that range is because currently not its really addressed by anything in the new lineup. Its also a "no brainer" value buy at those prices.

[RVWinkle]

Actually no, it's 404 Watts under Furmark for the complete system. And Furmark puts almost all of the load on the GPU, the CPU does almost nothing. It's 62 Watts more than the Titan under load.

I didn't see if they listed the power supply they used but an inefficient or too large power supply could make a 62 watt difference. These benches are also at 1080p which is considered 'low resolution' for these cards. Just wait for a real review before you get too worked up.

[nossy23]

I didn't see if they listed the power supply they used but an inefficient or too large power supply could make a 62 watt difference. These benches are also at 1080p which is considered 'low resolution' for these cards. Just wait for a real review before you get too worked up.

Well, it's 62 Watt difference with the same system except for the GPU???

[nossy23]

My (virtual) money is the R9 290 coming in around the $399 range and the R9 290X coming in around $499 for ref / std cards a bit more (+$50) for cards bundled with games or over clocked cards.

At those price points they'd be great bargain alternatives to the GTX 780's

Only reason I am leaning in that range is because currently not its really addressed by anything in the new lineup. Its also a "no brainer" value buy at those prices.

I hope you are right, but early price indications show higher prices. And I don't think we will see cards with a meaningful overclock if the 94C temp at stock in the benchmark is to be believed.

[Olivon]

nVidia havin' an event before real Hawaii launch ?



http://www.pcper.com/

[tajoh111]

nVidia havin' an event before real Hawaii launch ?



http://www.pcper.com/

It would be stupid for Nvidia not to launch something new. Depending on what Nvidia launches, AMD might have to give a pricecut of the 290 series even before launch. And if the $650-699 prices were supposed to be the prices, this might be a good thing.

From the temperatures and the powerconsumption from the mini review, it looks like its clocked much closer to the ceiling of the cards. The 1100mhz OC ceiling seems pretty likely at this point if those are the powerconsumption and temps. Hopefully AMD put some beefy VRM's on these things either way because that was a source of dead cards for alot of cards OC for Tahiti.

I have a feeling in a larger review with more games like techpowerups, the performance of 290x is going to be somewhere closer to the gtx 780. With a benchmarking suite of all newer games and a healthy serving of gaming evolved titles, its going to move towards Titan.

[Tha Last Meal]

R9 290X vs R9 280X: +37%
R9 290X vs NVIDIA GTX780: +11%
R9 290X vs NVIDIA GTX TITAN: 1%

http://videocardz.com/46822/first-am...e-review-leaks

disappointed

[Stukov]

R9 290X vs R9 280X: +37%
R9 290X vs NVIDIA GTX780: +11%
R9 290X vs NVIDIA GTX TITAN: 1%

disappointed

@1080p, its really a shame to benchmark those cards at such a low resolution. However, in that review it trades blows with the Titan, sometimes being quite a bit faster, other times being slightly slower. This is likely just the Nvidia/AMD difference in specific games that we see with all cards. But either way, if the price is $650 and is slightly faster or equal to a Titan (not counting power/heat) why would you be disappointed?

[nossy23]

@1080p, its really a shame to benchmark those cards at such a low resolution. However, in that review it trades blows with the Titan, sometimes being quite a bit faster, other times being slightly slower. This is likely just the Nvidia/AMD difference in specific games that we see with all cards. But either way, if the price is $650 and is slightly faster or equal to a Titan (not counting power/heat) why would you be disappointed?

Why is it a shame to bench them at 1080P when on half of the benches the cards don't reach 60 FPS average at those settings?

[Tha Last Meal]

@1080p, its really a shame to benchmark those cards at such a low resolution. However, in that review it trades blows with the Titan, sometimes being quite a bit faster, other times being slightly slower. This is likely just the Nvidia/AMD difference in specific games that we see with all cards. But either way, if the price is $650 and is slightly faster or equal to a Titan (not counting power/heat) why would you be disappointed?

if this card come %10 faster than titan in this resolution 1600p i will be very happy ,but if this card come with the same Titan performance in this resolution 1600p and consume more power and more heat that will be disappointed
Because we know that GTX 780 OC ($650) can give you Titan performance with Less heat/less power with the same Price?

If we say this is what actually happened,this card will be Excellent or disappointed ?

[tbone8ty]

nVidia havin' an event before real Hawaii launch ?



http://www.pcper.com/

Its not a gpu

[tajoh111]

@1080p, its really a shame to benchmark those cards at such a low resolution. However, in that review it trades blows with the Titan, sometimes being quite a bit faster, other times being slightly slower. This is likely just the Nvidia/AMD difference in specific games that we see with all cards. But either way, if the price is $650 and is slightly faster or equal to a Titan (not counting power/heat) why would you be disappointed?

Sleeping dogs has really paid for itself over and over. Amds Most recent driver work has really helped them in metro last light. It's seems like the reverse of the beginning of the year were nvidia was getting the better out of Amd s gaming evolved titles. Now Amd has metro last light and pax Payne 3. While nvidia has collected crisis 3, bioshock and far cry 3.

Add sleeping dogs, company of heroes 2, hitman absolution and dirt showdown/grid 2 and you have a scenario Amd will almost always win.

[dasa]

r280x uses less power than gtx780 while gaming but way more in fur http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...II_TOP/24.html

for now i will take the tests that show r290x uses more power than gtx780\titan in fur as just a sign that it has a more capable vrm that doesnt crap out so easy when you oc and hopefully not the power use we can expect to see in game

[xVeinx]

So it trades blows with Titan/780 OC, which is about what was expected. The power consumption MAY not be quite that high, since different tests by different sites typically give slightly different numbers. Either way, it performs well. Now to see pricing and how it stacks up against a wider variety of cards and games...

[Darxide]

My (virtual) money is the R9 290 coming in around the $399 range and the R9 290X coming in around $499 for ref / std cards a bit more (+$50) for cards bundled with games or over clocked cards.

At those price points they'd be great bargain alternatives to the GTX 780's

Only reason I am leaning in that range is because currently not its really addressed by anything in the new lineup. Its also a "no brainer" value buy at those prices.

Well the 280X is priced in the UK at around the 250 - 280 mark, which is around the 399 dollar mark. So I expect the 290 and 290X to be a good bit higher.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/produc...=56&subid=1842

The 280X Matrix Platinum is 320 pounds, which = 511 dollars. So I highly doubt the 290X will be in that ballpark.

[cx-ray]

http://geizhals.de/eu/msi-radeon-r9-...-a1015780.html
http://geizhals.de/eu/msi-radeon-r9-...-a1015779.html

[Darxide]

http://geizhals.de/eu/msi-radeon-r9-...-a1015780.html
http://geizhals.de/eu/msi-radeon-r9-...-a1015779.html

If those are accurate, we're looking at around $630 and $890

[xBanzai89]

If those are accurate, we're looking at around $630 and $890

That is factoring in how Europeans love to be taxed.

Seeing hits for the 290 for around $530 and the 290X around $590 here in the states.

http://www.shopblt.com/item/sapphire...12270040g.html
http://www.shopblt.com/item/sapphire...12260040g.html

The ASUS 280X Matrix is also priced at $350 @ newegg too.

[Darxide]

That is factoring in how Europeans love to be taxed.

Seeing hits for the 290 for around $530 and the 290X around $590 here in the states.

http://www.shopblt.com/item/sapphire...12270040g.html
http://www.shopblt.com/item/sapphire...12260040g.html

Lol. It's not just the tax, we get ripped on prices too.
But yes, I'm not saying that's the cost, just that the guess of $399 and $499 is likely way off.

[xBanzai89]

Yeah unfortunately we will not be seeing price points like that.

[Stukov]

I don't think power consumption in Furmark is a really good benchmark for what the any card does 95% of the time.

[cx-ray]

If those are accurate, we're looking at around $630 and $890

Prices in Europe are usually a 1:1 conversion with the US price before your local sales tax. My guess pricing will start at respectively $499 - $550 and $599 - $650.