Take out a dozen or so ATi fanboys and it's all good again.
Yesssss yes yessss, because a thread about Ati GFX should be cleared of those ati fans ...


Come on man!! You are joking !! Tell me you're joking !! are you sure that true audio is a new technology? true audio just a propaganda . if you believe that mantle is here to develop games and support Game developers to make things better? than You are very wrong. mantle found only in order to knock out the competitor (nvidia) and not like what AMD said " Mantle is found and supported to provide best solution to game developers which lead to new experience in games"......this is rubbish. you can return to some of AMD statements that said " when BF4 works through Mantle,Titan well be a joke" when you hear such words do you think they are after support for game developers or to break their only competitor, this won't be understood by anyone except for those who have been following the story from its beginning (Mantle). there is a difference between winning with your own work and winning by breaking others with unfair methods.
Trueaudio is not any breakthrough yea, but audio capabilities from vista forward were cut by the balls ,and noone since then made anything in terms of HW accelerated 3d sound! So in that regard IT IS VERY IMPORTANT DUDE!Sound capabilities on PC gaming SUNK from vista :[, ANYBODY trying to do something about it should be applauded!If it will be successful nvidia will follow and the rest.And it IS being implemented in some game engines, its not hot air technology :-) .I really urge you to read about it before takin the hammer down on it.
Mantle, again, you probably didnt read the in depth articles about it.
1st thing first, it wont break anything for anyone!As it is just ANOTHER (apart from DX11) way of utilising ATI cards.There will be BOTH.DX11 for NV and Ati, and Mantle for ATI.Games utilising Mantle (which will be pretty rare i would imagine) will be more compatible and run faster on it, thats all.
2nd thing, no features will be added, its just a more optimal way of doing THE SAME things, thats in a stark contrast to physx, which FORBIDS some actual eye candy on ati cards!So whos the bad guy here ?
And 3rd, PROBABLY, it will mean faster reaction times of developers and catalyst team with any games that dont work optimal on some ati hardware.Thats GOOD.
AMD CANT break NV in any way with this, they just get the leg up frame rate wise in those titles, they PAY for it with development time and money, all for more optimal usage of cards that WE pay for.AND, NV can make just the same thing.And they probably will.
Who wins on all this ? We, both NV and AMD fans (fanboiz are always losers it seems).
Let me repeat that clearly, AMD IS NOT BREAKING NV compatibility in any way!Not more than the nvidias "the way its meant to be played" program has.(and probably a lot less).

I wouldnt be surprised to see a Hawaii chip between the 280x and 290.
Thats whats im waiting (and hoping) for, Hawaii LE, maybe with 384bit bus, but trueaudio enabled.