yes, but not at default with first biosOriginally Posted by SKYMTL
The 290X result shown above is likely fake. However, that's not to say the 290X won't reach those levels.
yes, but not at default with first biosThe 290X result shown above is likely fake. However, that's not to say the 290X won't reach those levels.
so i guess you are saying stock R9 290X is slower . but overclocked it can reach that perf. 2 weeks more of suspense.The 290X result shown above is likely fake. However, that's not to say the 290X won't reach those levels.
Two more weeks of yawn-inducing rumors, you mean... yeah. So far it's looking like there's not much to be in "suspense" for, which is unfortunate.
keep clinging to your favourite green cards. you are anyway not going to buy any AMD GPU. but i would sure love to see the colour from your face drain when you see R9 290X BF4 Mantle destroy the GTX Titan / 780.
Woah there, a little overly involved there are we? If you really think people will gasp in horror over a videocard reveal to that extent... just ROFL. I guess when you post about AMD being "my employer" and "our company" on other forums you have a bit more emotion than most of us end-users would, however. I've owned many AMD/ATI cards over the years including a 9700 pro, x1800 aiw, x1950gto2, mobile HD2900, radeon 4850, 4870, mobile 5730, 5870, and 7970 just as I have owned many NVidia cards. I buy what works, not what I hope might change, and the track record with AMD's products has been pretty hairy for me always. If you had your act together better I would most certainly buy an AMD card, since I don't have any preference but for my experiences shaping them.
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The real question is why should people believe these any more than the other results frmo wccftech?
I think the best idea is to just wait until someone reputable does a review like anandtech
YOU UNDERESTIMATE FANBOISM....THEY WILL LITERALLY GET DOWN ON THEIR KNEES CRYING, "NO GOD PLEASE MAKE IT NOT TRUE". Have you seen theWoah there, a little overly involved there are we? If you really think people will gasp in horror over a videocard reveal to that extent... just ROFL. I guess when you post about AMD being "my employer" and "our company" on other forums you have a bit more emotion than most of us end-users would, however. I've owned many AMD/ATI cards over the years including a 9700 pro, x1800 aiw, x1950gto2, mobile HD2900, radeon 4850, 4870, mobile 5730, 5870, and 7970 just as I have owned many NVidia cards. I buy what works, not what I hope might changefanboys say in here, how insulted they get when the other teams card is better, the mental gymnastics they use to convince themselves their team is better. So yes, I think people will at the very least gasp in horror. hahah
In the fanboys defense though, its really not their fault....its more linked to Nvidias marketing, like the "Open a can of whoopass" and what-not.
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Does it ever shock anyone else when your hear someone use Darwin's "survival of the fittest" to justify genocide?
I just want to remind everyone about what countless posts were saying months ago about Volcanic Islands. We were shouted down and accused of being fanboys for not going along with the preposterous rumors (20nm anyone?). Now, those dissenting voices are pretty quiet, yes?
Wrong clocks and ES sample..
Well people like to dream i guess.If the process aint ready, no amd cards can be made especially big ass ones like this.
But from what i see, its a great card, it has smaller die yet seems to be on par with titan ,has a bad ass 512bit memory interface, 4gb ram, various enhancments.True audio, mantle, is priced really well,no crossfire bridge needed.Whats not to like ?
I wasnt sure ati would even try this, last time they went big and 512bit , they failed HARD.Anyone who calls all this a failure of some sorts, should stop doing so much shrooms.
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I just want to remind everyone that this is volcanic islands details thread and not an "I told you so" thread or Fanboy/anti fanboy thread.
True enthusiast appreciate good hardware and competition regardless, and I would like to think Xtremesystems has more of that community and less of the bickering between armchair overclockers.
If the price is right!
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Just like how you were telling everyone AMD wouldn't be launching a new GPU in 2013... Oh wait...
Originally Posted by motown_steve
Every genocide that was committed during the 20th century has been preceded by the disarmament of the target population. Once the government outlaws your guns your life becomes a luxury afforded to you by the state. You become a tool to benefit the state. Should you cease to benefit the state or even worse become an annoyance or even a hindrance to the state then your life becomes more trouble than it is worth.
Once the government outlaws your guns your life is forfeit. You're already dead, it's just a question of when they are going to get around to you.
Well that's what "I" assumed..
Given that they had just released the dual gpu card at the time, and the new oem cards showing up with the names they had.
I just assumed they would wait it out a bit longer until the next fab process was affordable.
But what happened was that people realized that latency of dual gpu's wasn't adding up to the frame rate shown.
So amd had to work on that, it didn't take them to long to get it a bit better.
Regardless I'm just happy to see them back in the game, like I said before, what I really care about is the price of nvidia cards and there performance.
Specifically in terms of 3d performance and sgssaa, and ao.
Minus af because I dont use that (I use trilinear with a -15 mip and texture bais, looks better to me personally but to jaggy to others, hence why I wanna see sgssaa performance up).
The market gets stagnant at times.
Amd did a good job this time around.
Now only if there cpus were doing as good as there gpus are
A little late though on that one since I've already jumped ship ^^ (or at least I'm about to).
Amen.
TITAN is a beast and AMD seems to have come close or maybe with driver tweaks surpassed it by a tiny %. Either way nice improvement and glad to see things moving again.
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That's a pipe dream unfortunately.Well that's what "I" assumed..
Given that they had just released the dual gpu card at the time, and the new oem cards showing up with the names they had.
I just assumed they would wait it out a bit longer until the next fab process was affordable.
But what happened was that people realized that latency of dual gpu's wasn't adding up to the frame rate shown.
So amd had to work on that, it didn't take them to long to get it a bit better.
Regardless I'm just happy to see them back in the game, like I said before, what I really care about is the price of nvidia cards and there performance.
Specifically in terms of 3d performance and sgssaa, and ao.
Minus af because I dont use that (I use trilinear with a -15 mip and texture bais, looks better to me personally but to jaggy to others, hence why I wanna see sgssaa performance up).
The market gets stagnant at times.
Amd did a good job this time around
Now only if there cpus were doing as good as there gpus are
A little late though on that one since I've already jumped ship ^^ (or at least I'm about to).
Not necessarily. Amd is learning. The fact that we have heard and seen nothing from Amd as far as high end, does not simply mean there is nothing going on. How many believed Amd would release another card in 2013?
Anything could happen.
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AMD need to beat Titan by a clear margin in the normal resolutions 1080p and up. Not eyefinity or 4K. Remember Nvidia more or less had Titan in the pocket 18 months ago but didn't release it because of AMD's lack of performance. If it's to have any chance against Maxwell, it needs to be 20-30% better.
Personally speaking to be only equivalent to Titan at this stage of the game is a joke. Rebranding gone mad.
If they could have released GK110 18 months ago, they would have...
Hawaii is competing against Gk110 not Maxwell...
Originally Posted by motown_steve
Every genocide that was committed during the 20th century has been preceded by the disarmament of the target population. Once the government outlaws your guns your life becomes a luxury afforded to you by the state. You become a tool to benefit the state. Should you cease to benefit the state or even worse become an annoyance or even a hindrance to the state then your life becomes more trouble than it is worth.
Once the government outlaws your guns your life is forfeit. You're already dead, it's just a question of when they are going to get around to you.
We'll know soon enough.
I think they are doing well with what they have money wise.
AMD is a broke company that is operating on a shoe string budget. This quarter AMD spent 308 million on research and developement compared to a year earlier they spend 345 million(they used to spend like double this in their better years). This was the first time AMD R and D spent less than nvidia which had spent 331 million this quarter. Considering how much more needs to researched at AMD, they would be lucky spending half of that on GPU's. CPU's likely get the lionshare of the R and D as it is simply a bigger industry.
Worse yet even for AMD, they need to cut more. AMD currently has somewhere around 968 million in cash reserves and a whole lot of debt. AMD has said, it needs over a billion to operate. To even keep this figure near a billion possible, AMD has had to sell its texas office for 164 million and its Singapore branch office for 46 million.
Regardless of the above, I would say AMD is probably operating the most efficiently at this point with their R and D budget compared to Nvidia and Intel. They have had years of employee cutting, selling of potential research expenditures and costly assets(foundaries and Imageon) to become the lean waif of a company it is today.
In my opinion, Nvidia and particularly Intel are inefficient. Nvidia is losing lots on Tegra for R and D and Intel is big and bloated.
Nvidia can afford it as they have close to 3 billion in cash and way way less debt than AMD. And Intel is well, Intel.
Hopefully volcanic Islands makes some money for AMD, but they need a home run(not the console deal) to really start making some serious money. And not just be bailing out water out of a sinking ship.
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They just need to price it right if it matches.
half the price of a GTX 780 and the same performance..I'll take 2 please to go with a nice 4k monitor!!
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