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    boxleitnerb: it is pre-NDA final NDA ends date They told us, you cannot to show anything to xxx date, BUT exact date of NDA will be updated in few days

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    Audio in games is something has needed work for some time on the PC. Surround hasn't worked properly for years now. So another big thumbs up for AMD for at least trying to sort it out.

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    Looking at it all, hawaii seems nice.Rest of the pack ,not really as it seems to be the same chips at the same prices with the same performance.
    What seems really exciting about all this, is mantle and trueaudio.I didnt even knew how big of a deal mantle could be,new GFX API dedicated to amd hardware, 3dfx and its minigl comes to ming, S3 and METAL ,and how much better they were in comparison to generic D3d performance wise.Of course, it could all be big talk and nothing coming out of it, BUT, AMD has landed both consoles with their APUs and that changes picture dramatically.Also trueaudio, finally someone tries to tackle broken PC audio from vista times,and its ideal thing to incorporate to GPUs and APUs.Too bad all this is going to kick in from next gen and not this, as there seems to be 1 or 2 new chips with this and the rest is just a rebrand.
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    Truaudio, mantle = useless stuff, nothing interesting. We want performance, not these BS

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    Quote Originally Posted by PedantOne View Post
    Truaudio, mantle = useless stuff, nothing interesting. We want performance, not these BS
    Mantle=Titankiller with Bf4 not good enough?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PedantOne View Post
    Truaudio, mantle = useless stuff, nothing interesting. We want performance, not these BS
    you gotta be kidding, right?

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    That's one huge stock fan, hope its more quiet than the last ones...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitriman View Post
    That's one huge stock fan, hope its more quiet than the last ones...
    Supposedly, the vents were designed to increase airflow, especially in constrained CF setups, while also slightly decreasing the pressure.
    The decrease in pressure and a different fan(manufacturer, design or size/speed?) is suppose to noticeably drop db.
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    I can't help but think of Glide when I read about Mantle. Does anyone know if it'll be closed source, as Glide was?
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    Quote Originally Posted by [XC] Oj101 View Post
    I can't help but think of Glide when I read about Mantle. Does anyone know if it'll be closed source, as Glide was?
    open but needs Graphics Core Next as far as I can see won't work on a 6970 or older and don't know what nv can do

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaddMuppet View Post
    Audio in games is something has needed work for some time on the PC. Surround hasn't worked properly for years now. So another big thumbs up for AMD for at least trying to sort it out.
    Creative totally dropped the ball, their forums seem to be dead, and their driver support non-existent.
    We need someone to bring better audio back.
    Really glad at least something is being done. Once it starts, and if it's successful - more will follow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zalbard View Post
    Creative totally dropped the ball, their forums seem to be dead, and their driver support non-existent.
    We need someone to bring better audio back.
    Really glad at least something is being done. Once it starts, and if it's successful - more will follow.
    this monday i said enough and get xfi titanium out of my case. what i get is i think a little low sound and not sure about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zalbard View Post
    Creative totally dropped the ball, their forums seem to be dead, and their driver support non-existent.
    We need someone to bring better audio back.
    Really glad at least something is being done. Once it starts, and if it's successful - more will follow.
    Agreed.

    I tired of struggling with generation after generation of Creative cards with poor drivers (since the HDD corruption with Via chipsets I haven't experienced any major showstoppers with Creative, just an endless stream of niggles that were never addressed) so I gave up after the ZxR.

    I also tried a couple of C-Media based cards (one ASUS, one Auzentech) but again drivers were buggy and had to rely on third party modified drivers to get most of the functionality most of the time.

    So, I decided to ditch 5.1 and go stereo. Chose what looked like an appropriate (not audiophile grade, once you step there budget spirals out of control) match of stereo amp, DAC and speakers and never looked back. I lost a great deal of positional audio but I have good sound all the time. No SCP, no blue screens, no games stuck in an infinite audio loop.

    I disagree with PedantOne. If this audio engine implementation delivers and is not just a marketing gimmick to make up for shortcomings in other areas is a big plus for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zalbard View Post
    Creative totally dropped the ball, their forums seem to be dead, and their driver support non-existent.
    We need someone to bring better audio back.
    Really glad at least something is being done. Once it starts, and if it's successful - more will follow.

    how about essence cards?

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    I'm looking forward to similar tech making it's way to their APUs someday

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    Bit confused. Is this pre-paperlaunch stuff?

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    I see, just to wet the appetite. I guess times change. Few years back people hated paper launches, how times change.

    Architecture looks good, but we need at least an NDA lift date, this kind of sucks.

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    sorry again off topic but i am returning to xfi. on board of p8z77-v pro is horrible after xfi.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kersh View Post
    how about essence cards?
    They are great cards for music and movies, but don't bring anything special for gaming.

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    sorry again off topic but i am returning to xfi. on board of p8z77-v pro is horrible after xfi.
    Sound quality is indeed a lot better. The drivers keep getting more buggy and painful to use, though, especially with new OS releases.
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    Actually Asus really seems to have botched the Windows 8 release. There were complaints all over the forums for a while there with those Xonar cards.

    I also find Dolby headphone very good on the Xonar models.

    Aside from that, no games use open al or eax anymore anyways so as far as positional audio goes just about everything is pretty much the same.

    I wonder if this truaudio is supp posed to work in conjunction with mantle. I don't see any other way it would be any better than whats already on the market.
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    So this Truaudio stuff, can this work together with a separate audiocard (like the Asus Essence STX I got)? Because I was thinking that the Asus Essence STX got great audio quality, but positional sound is not so good. If it can be combined with Truaudio it could be great for everything I do with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PedantOne View Post
    Truaudio, mantle = useless stuff, nothing interesting. We want performance, not these BS
    That's a pretty ignorant statement there.
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    I was just going off speculation from two months ago that they "could" be out by late Sept. or early Oct... and I haven't had time to keep up with this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nossy23 View Post
    So this Truaudio stuff, can this work together with a separate audiocard (like the Asus Essence STX I got)? Because I was thinking that the Asus Essence STX got great audio quality, but positional sound is not so good. If it can be combined with Truaudio it could be great for everything I do with it.
    Best guess; yes. Truaudio seems to be more a compute engine which would then output an audio stream to whatever DSP/DAC is attached to the system.
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