Amd Volcanic Islands details

[LightSpeed]

No they won't. 7970 didn't exactly fly off of the shelves at $550. Lets be realistic it was the first card to launch on a new node with no supply issues. I think that the steam hardware survey also spoke volumes. I don't know if things have changed since AMD adjusted pricing.

I might be mistaken but I remember quite a few supply issues with the 79xx series after launch

[Handrox]

Does AMD will take nine months to release decent drivers for R9 200 as it was with the HD 7000? Even only available to the end of October.

[dasa]

since r9-200 is based on 7970 not a very different gpu like 7970 was the drives should be much easier to adapt rather than requiring a rewrite to get optimal performance

its not like there was anything really bad about the 7970 release drivers they worked more or less just didnt perform anywhere near as well as they do now a few bugs have been fixed and with frame pacing being introduced there is now less games we need to use a fps limiter in when running crossfire

its similar with nvidia whenever a very different gpu is made initial drivers perform poorly by comparison to what they do 12-24 months later once they have had a chance to optimize

[zalbard]

If it was the fastest car, sure they can

If they price it lower, more people may buy it, which can result in higher profits.

[Zloyd]

Go go ati !!!!

[Tha Last Meal]

Go go ati !!!!

ATI?? LOL

[Zipelgas]

they will always be ATI whoever buys them or renames them to whatever

[N19h7m4r3]

If they price it lower, more people may buy it, which can result in higher profits.

Exactly, I don't know anyone that would ever pay over 400 for a GPU.
Personally, if they use a similar driver to the 7xxx cards I'd be very interested in the performance of their 2 6-pin PCIe card.

I'll want to slap it into my Mac Pro. Current 7xxx, and 6xx(NVIDIA) cards work with OSX.

It all depends on performance to price.

[bill_d]

Exactly, I don't know anyone that would ever pay over 400 for a GPU.
Personally, if they use a similar driver to the 7xxx cards I'd be very interested in the performance of their 2 6-pin PCIe card.

I'll want to slap it into my Mac Pro. Current 7xxx, and 6xx(NVIDIA) cards work with OSX.

It all depends on performance to price.

had a aiw 9700 Pro, Radeon X850 XT PE and x1950xtx crossfire master that were all over 500 first day

[Ace123]

Dude Half this thread is about maxwell. How it's going to be best card ever, how is coming out next month in 20nm, etc, etc. Only fitting that when AMD is about to release the fastest "single GPU" card, that people talk how it's great because nvidia cards are going to get cheaper. It's called fanboyism and you can't do anything about it but make fun of it.

LOL!
I just thought it was weird he was baisically like, "you're an for not acknowledging nvidia and their fans at a time like this! It's good for us too!"

[zalbard]

Half this thread is about maxwell.

New architectures are more interesting than refreshes. Especially since we are also talking about 20nm and GDDR6.

[Yeroon]

New architectures are more interesting than refreshes. Especially since we are also talking about 20nm and GDDR6.

And I'm sure there are appropriate threads for that. Ones titled "maxwell" would be a good place to look.

[flopper]

world best card from AMD is about to be unviled, all nvidia fans can do is talk about cards a year away.
tragic crowd.

[Olivon]

You seem as tragic as people you're pointing at.

[tbone8ty]

will this 512 bit gddr5 memory be able to overclock well?

[AliG]

will this 512 bit gddr5 memory be able to overclock well?

512 bit means a more complex memory controller and additional memory chips so I would assume it wouldn't overclock quite as well as the 7970. With that being said, I don't think you would be bandwidth limited even at stock speeds (limited being in the algorithmic sense, ie an increase in core clock has no effect on performance)

[MaddMuppet]

world best card from AMD is about to be unviled, all nvidia fans can do is talk about cards a year away.
tragic crowd.

Don't turn this into an Nvida V AMD thread. It's simply not needed.

[DefStar]

I could see the card costing $600+ if they moved to a new node, but they didn't. Because it's "just" a refresh that will keep the prices down. TSMC relaxing costs because it's on a mature node, not as much R&D as a new Arch., and etc... .

[tbone8ty]

I could see the card costing $600+ if they moved to a new node, but they didn't. Because it's "just" a refresh that will keep the prices down. TSMC relaxing costs because it's on a mature node, not as much R&D as a new Arch., and etc... .

agreed. will be interesting to see how they price this compared to the 7990.

my bet is $599 at most... and 7990 at $699

[paulbagz]

Looking at those leaked benches, if they're to be believed AMD could have a good chip on their hands.

Here's hoping its not in the $999 range.

-PB

[bill_d]

agreed. will be interesting to see how they price this compared to the 7990.

my bet is $599 at most... and 7990 at $699

you can get a 7990 for 599 now w/ 8 games
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814125458

I hope the new card is 499 that would P nv off to no end, two for the price of a titan

but just don't think we will see it under 600 and maybe 650

But I do love all the people that were fine with the 780 price and some with the titan price dictating amd pricing on a card that maybe faster than both
i get the impression they won't buy one but just want a cheaper titan, sad part is by the past if it is faster than titan and 499 nv won't cut prices one bit

[zalbard]

Here's hoping its not in the $999 range.

They already said they were not aiming at "ultra-enthusiast" segment.

But I do love all the people that were fine with the 780 price

These people shouldn't be alive...

[NEOAethyr]

nVidia still has a 2880 shader, 256 tmu and 48 rop chip to release.
Compared to the titan which had 2688 224 tmus and 48 rops.
If they feel like it that is, they've had them for some time.
It's not like nvidia has been left in the dust here..

And besides each brand has there own uses..
To some people it doesn't matter if the radeon gets +5 fps in a game.

All I care about is prices, I don't really like to see them past $600.
At least amd is trying to compete, call it the fastest in the world I could care less lol.
To each there own.

[tbone8ty]

you can get a 7990 for 599 now w/ 8 games
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814125458

whoa nice price...yah i read that the 8 game bundle doesn't apply anymore they ran out of codes or something.

but curious where the 7990 ends up...i guess it depends on frame pacing driver...

who knows maybe they will have a surprise slide at the end of their presentation
with a "dual volcanic island" (coming soon without delay aka <16 months) lol

[bill_d]

nVidia still has a 2880 shader, 256 tmu and 48 rop chip to release.
Compared to the titan which had 2688 224 tmus and 48 rops.
If they feel like it that is, they've had them for some time.
It's not like nvidia has been left in the dust here..

And besides each brand has there own uses..
To some people it doesn't matter if the radeon gets +5 fps in a game.

All I care about is prices, I don't really like to see them past $600.
At least amd is trying to compete, call it the fastest in the world I could care less lol.
To each there own.

yep and the 1499 price point is completely open