Quote Originally Posted by repman View Post
What are "reasonable terms", it's a very vague term. Same applies to the 3960X - it's never at stock clocks since it's only an overclocked an cut down Xeon...even more - you could then consider a stock clocked chip only the lowest end chip within the same architecture.

What would you do if you were AMD and you had a chance to bin a few chips and make some money? You would do the same.
Price isn't an issue since no one is forcing you to buy it.
Reasonable as in what a potential customer like myself may think. Since it doesn't look like Ivy-E is going to be much of an upgrade over SNB-E, I was looking for alternatives.

I didn't comment on the FX-9590 initially. Now that the numbers are out, it's clear this is just a higher clocked version of a product already available from AMD. There's not going to be any area where this chip is magically going to perform better than expected.
A stock clocked comparatively price CPU from Intel would still beat it and is basically assured to have a healthy headroom for more performance through overclocking. This chip doesn't have that either. That's why I won't buy it.