Quote Originally Posted by behrouz View Post
What the hell? Slower than Titan After two generations ? Man , AMD HD9970 should be match At least Geforce 690 GTX just like HD7970 Is more powerfull than Geforce 490 GTX (?)
What two generations?
7970 was Jan 2012 and Titan was Feb 2013...

Quote Originally Posted by boxleitnerb View Post
If the GPUs are still made on 28nm, I wouldn't be surprised if they could not quite beat the Titan.
This is the first source that has stated Hawaii is slower than Titan.
But I do agree with you and m_jones, it wouldn't be overly surprising and they don't need to overspend on R&D and manufacturing with 20nm ramping up in 1H 2014.

Quote Originally Posted by Chickenfeed View Post
Shouldn't these be on a smaller node? We are creeping up on dual 8pin at 28nm and that's just no fun.
20nm won't be ready until the end of the year at the earliest, though it will likely be sometime 1H 2014 before we see any 20nm cards in retail.