Vishera 5Ghz FX-9000/8770

[informal]

It's odd there is still no info from reviewers yet, so NDA must be still in effect. Some retail channels have the SKUs, which adds to confusion. Parts are relatively competitive, depending on what one will be doing. Price range is off though, lower end model should be ~350$ tops, higher end one ~550$ tops. With these prices they could actually sell good deal of them and generate some positive vibes in enthusiast community.

[Tha Last Meal]

i7-3960X extreme- 130W= 1000$
AMS FX-9590-220W=920$

http://www.pcsuperstore.com/search.p...HHKWOF&x=0&y=0

AMD......Are you ING kidding me
Excuse me guys but this is.....bull

[ilkkahy]

They have some well clocking cpus that require good power supply, cooling and they want high price for them. They will get them all sold anyway (after while the price will drop though) and at the same time they improve their brand a little. So what? Amd has huge amounts of debt and they need money.

From my experiences in working life the companies that make well profitable business are much better to work within than those that are barely above water. In the long run: low profit = bad thing for everybody.

I dont whine if intel has 5x more expensive cpu on the market that is only 50% faster. I also dont whine if amd has 5x more expensive cpu that is just 15% faster. I can buy fx8350 and overclock it to 5ghz or get i3770k if i want. The freedom of choise is mine and i think its good that there are also faster more expensive models to choose from.

[tbone8ty]

Can't wait to see how these clock!

What do you think stock volts will be?

8350 is 1.4v? Stock?

[zir_blazer]

Back at the time when I started to be interesed in computer Hardware, we used to call absurd things like this one "Emergency Edition". Looks like AMD wants to steal the thunder from Ivy Bridge-E this time.

[Rollo]

Back at the time when I started to be interesed in computer Hardware, we used to call absurd things like this one "Emergency Edition". Looks like AMD wants to steal the thunder from Ivy Bridge-E this time.

They may well generate excitement for Ivy Bridge E with this.

I don't think I've ever seen anything this crazy before- super high price, high heat, high power, low performance.

People will be begging intel to take their $1000..

I truly think we are at the edge of the new standards of pricing due to the fall of AMD/ATi.

[Sparky]

Sooooo when will certain people get tired of cluttering up threads with AMD doomsday crap?

[tbone8ty]

or maybe intel will realize they can charge more for the 3770k/4770k!!! ever thought about that?

"waaaaaah" says the intel fanboy hahaha

[Maxforces]

AMD thinks april fools day is in June. Sad very sad.

[Rollo]

Sooooo when will certain people get tired of cluttering up threads with AMD doomsday crap?

What do you think of AMD launching a $900+ part for gamers that gets outperformed in every gaming metric by $300 competing parts?

[AzureSky]

yet I bet Rollo here was a fan of these chips http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Pentiu...7PH3730F).html

funny thing is, the p4ee was far slower then amd parts it was competing against, far more so then the FX line chips vs intels similarly priced options....

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2003/...4#.Ub-xHdvMD2k
http://techreport.com/review/9262/pe...lon-64-fx-60/5

we get it Rollo you hate AMD, AMD suck, AMD dosnt make a single product worth anybody owning.

we get that your very proud of your 990x and titan, what I and I am guessing others dont get is why you feel the need to try and make others feel bad about their systems and preferences?

I mean, if the only way you can make your epeen hard is by crapping on all things AMD......thats pretty sad.....and you would fit in very well over at TPU.....

yes they are over priced, but so is intels 2011 platform, if people are willing to buy it, and it makes the company money, who are you to say its bad/wrong/evil?

Would I buy one at those prices.....F NO, but, I do know people who would and wouldnt even think twice, kinda like I know people like you(Rollo) who think nothing of plunking down thousands on videcard and cpu, I could say I feel spending that kinda money on a cpu and videocard is fing retarded, but, thats your choice, and its your money.....

I do bet you feel a bit stupid buying a titan then seeing the 780 come out far cheaper with very comparable perf.....if you dont.....well good for you.....

anyway, I will keep my 8 cores, 32gb ram, 7870 crossfire, because, despite what people like yourself would like, I am not weak minded or weak willed enough to let your doom and gloom make me want to rush out and dump what works great for me so i can build a dead end system using intels latest geatest parts, just so i can gain a few% in benchmarks I DONT GIVE A FLYING ABOUT.

95% of the people i know dont give a damn about benchmarking, all they really care about is being able to do what they want to do when they want to do it at a decent speed....I have yet to see a case where that wasnt possible on amd...for cheaper then intel.

[tbone8ty]

i would totally buy this chip if it was priced around $300-$350

but not worth more than that, when my fx-8350 is clocked at 4.6ghz

[AzureSky]

It's pretty widely known AMD CPUs can't feed multi GPU configs, but I meant to post that to go along with my assertion the $200 2500K had much higher minimums.

this depends on the game, crysis3 and bf3 scale very well with cf for amd and intel users, (infact bfbc2 scales very well also), since EA is pushing the use of the new frostbyte engine to as many of their dev houses as they can, this should mean these games will all perform far better with multi core systems then current gen games have been.

yes, and bench for on alot of todays titles, but, I never see them being unplayable even when I crank the settings and add stuff like smaa, the rare times i see micro stutter, using radeonpro's frame limiter fixes it easily.

oh btw Rollo....guess you havent seen this
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...ck,3407-3.html

interesting....amd cant drive multi gpu configs......

EDIT: http://www.overclock.net/t/1333027/a...-crossfire-gpu

more of the same kind of results, seems fx8350 can push multi gpu configs.....

[Rollo]

i would totally buy this chip if it was priced around $300-$350

but not worth more than that, when my fx-8350 is clocked at 4.6ghz

I don't think anyone would call this anything but a nice part at $350.. intel parts would still be a smarter buy, but $350 is justifiable.

When I bought the 990X for $1000, I knew I was paying the $400 "current best" tax.

When I bought my Titan for $1000, I knew I was paying a $400 "current best" tax.

For that matter, I think I paid $1000 for an AMD FX-60 back in the day and knew I was paying a $400 "current best" tax.

I get paying the "current best" tax, I get buying banging for buck. Have done both many times over the years.

If I want to give $600 to charity, I'll pick a more worthy cause than "the guys hoping no one will notice they're trying to rob noobs".

[Rollo]

Thanks for the link proving my point AzureSky.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...ck,3407-5.html

Those Skyrim and F1 2012 results are good examples of AMD CPU inferiority in gaming. Do you have links to other articles showing the AMD CPUs getting stomped flat?

Buyers would surely appreciate your help.

[tbone8ty]

if u have a am3+ socket mobo its a good buy and a smarter buy than switching yo cartel...i mean intel

[AzureSky]

Thanks for the link proving my point AzureSky.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...ck,3407-5.html

Those Skyrim and F1 2012 results are good examples of AMD CPU inferiority in gaming. Do you have links to other articles showing the AMD CPUs getting stomped flat?

Buyers would surely appreciate your help.

because the only games on the market are skyrim and f1.....ooook......sorry but not all games are as poorly optimized and coded as skyrim an f1....

lets try some other games shal we.







and then we have the summery stuff

in short your assertion that amd cards cant drive multi gpu setups is bull flat out, they can, just not on games running antiquated poorly threaded engines.

skyrim's engine is based on gamebryo, f1 well, I dont know a single person who actually plays that game....and i havent bothered to look into it but, i have read that its engine is far from modern...

now we head over to http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Crysis...hmark-1056578/



not multi gpu, but, shows that the 8350 even at stock isnt worthless for games using modern engines.

ahh heres a good one
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6934/c...gpu-at-1440p/5


so, your saying a 3.49fps delta between a 3770k and 8350 means amd cant drive multi gpu?

how about SLI

humm so 0.32 fps means an 8350 cant drive multi gpu.....huh....thought that was within margin of error...

on to dirt 3


here the delta is 15.72fps, but in this case, the fps are well above 120fps, so.....how is the 8350 not able to drive multi gpu again?


an fps delta of 2.66fps.....wow amd cant drive dual 580's at 1440p can it....


in civ v the fps on amd never drop below 66.63 AFIK thats still quite playable.


a whopping 0.45fps delta between intels top chip that retails for 570usd vs an 8350 that retails for 200usd.....yeah amd cant game, and they cant multi gpu game at all..


huh....0.3fps....must be a new definition of "cant drive multi gpu"...

A CPU for Dual GPU Gaming: i5-2500K or FX-8350

Looking back through the results, moving to a dual GPU setup obviously has some issues. Various AMD platforms are not certified for dual NVIDIA cards for example, meaning while they may excel for AMD, you cannot recommend them for Team Green. There is also the dilemma that while in certain games you can be fairly GPU limited (Metro 2033, Sleeping Dogs), there are others were having the CPU horsepower can double the frame rate (Civilization V).

After the overview, my recommendation for dual GPU gaming comes in at the feet of the i5-2500K. This recommendation may seem odd ? these chips are not the latest from Intel, but chances are that pre-owned they will be hitting a nice price point, especially if/when people move over to Haswell. If you were buying new, the obvious answer would be looking at an i5-3570K on Ivy Bridge rather than the 2500K, so consider this suggestion a minimum CPU recommendation.

On the AMD side, the FX-8350 puts up a good show across most of the benchmarks, but falls spectacularly in Civilization V. If this is not the game you are aiming for and want to invest AMD, then the FX-8350 is a good choice for dual GPU gaming

so, if Civ V is your game of choice and you want more then 66.6fps, go intel, if not.....the diffrance over all is pretty minimal if you test at what many of us are starting to consider the new hardcore gamer resolution(i run many games at 2560x1600 via downsampling, on my old monitors it was 2560x1440)

but yeah your right, amd just cant game at all, and cant push multi gpu setups at all can they....

[BenchZowner]

The most important things are missing from the above charts ( minimum fps! frametimes )

[boxleitnerb]

How arrogant must people be to claim that a certain game is "poorly optimized or coded"? Especially when looking at other results that are GPU bottlenecked...oh my.

[Rollo]

How arrogant must people be to claim that a certain game is "poorly optimized or coded"? Especially when looking at other results that are GPU bottlenecked...oh my.

If the games weren't "poorly optimized", the reviewers would have been "paid off by intel", or "NVIDIA has sabotaged that game". You've been around long enough to recognize this for what it is.

Nonetheless, his links have showed us when running multi gpu, AMDs flagship CPU is inferior at F1 2012, Skyrim, and Civilization V and that is helpful.

And of course there are the VRZone benches where AMD gets p3wned in every benchmark:
http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-fx-8...nce/17494.html

Where I'm sure the answer is again, "B-b-but those framerates are good enuff!".

Why would anyone who spends $800 on a couple video cards buy a $200 CPU that all the reviews agree cripple them?

Especially when there are $200 CPUs like the 2500K that don't cripple them?

"People don't play those games anyway"?

Huh? If the AMD CPU cripples performance in those games, which others fail on AMD?

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu...0_6.html#sect0

Looks like Borderlands 2 is another game AMD fails at, never heard of anyone playing that.

(prepares for wall of text wherein we'll learn it's crazy and un-American to buy parts that cost the same but perform better, use less power, and give off less heat)

Can't wait for reviews of this $920 chip.

[madcho]

Power is the ennemy of the gamer, so ...


this is really strange that AMD get out these products.




the actual FX8350 is enough to get 60 fps on all modern engines.



i think this is a bad move.





Rollo i watched the video you posted. I think this guy is smoking crack. it' amazing how movie can change being seen 30 years after be captured.

[tbone8ty]

I think its a great move by AMD. 5ghz chip! So Awesome!

Take my money! !!

[BenchZowner]

my oh my...

[informal]

This thread is funny to read

[kl0012]

I think its a great move by AMD. 5ghz chip! So Awesome!

Take my money! !!

Is it some kind of religious ecstasy?