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    Quote Originally Posted by tajoh111 View Post
    I think the scariest thing about this card that was revealed recently is that this card isn't limited edition which could have massive price consequences in the future. If this card continues to be sold at 1000 dollars and the price never falls, what we could see happen is a massive price jump next generation in overall prices. The reason for this is we saw what AMD did this generation when they had better performance than Nvidia(pricing a card higher than a gtx 580). They might be in a better position to do it this time because I think the gaming evolved programs is going to increase their presence and marketshare.

    Of course I don't think AMD would price their cards at 1000 dollars as that would kill volume but 700 would be possible and the 88x0 series in the 500 range(as Nvidia has done with gk104). Titan makes any future chips look like a value and when Tahiti was released, it was only a good value compared to Nvidia's flagship, it lost in price/performance compared to other cards. If AMD does this again(and it would be stupid not to if a market can support a 1000 dollar card), Nvidia will raise the price stakes as well when their cards come later.

    On the other hand, if Nvidia card comes out first, they could again mark up GM104, which will likely perform superior to titan and price it at 700 dollars and thus appear to be a good value. AND again release GM110/100 at 1000 dollars. No way should a none limited edition card come out at 1000 dollars. I would rather Nvidia cripple FP64 performance because this might be a big thing that keeps Titan prices high.

    I hope this experiment of Nvidia testing the pricing market fails and we see a much cheaper titan.

    If Titan maintains demands for 1000 dollars cards for a significant period of time, then Nvidia will probably raise prices of their Maxwell parts and AMD will follow suit or vice versa.

    A price jump is guaranteed next generation if titan succeeds at its current price point. The reason is this, would either company price their cards at 500 dollars, if their cards performed better than Titan which costs $1000 which has sold relatively well even with its crazy price tag.

    Titans demand and pricing need to fall to ensure affordable graphic cards in the future.
    One word... volume.
    There is a BIG difference in moving millions of cards at <$500 and moving a few ten thousand cards at $1k.
    Add in the fact that this card is in a unique situation, which you pointed out, as far as target market; ultra-enthusiast(multi-gpu/multi-monitor) and semi-professional(FP64).
    I think of it, as one reviewer mentioned, as a copy of Intel's EE. There really is no point to it's price other than it is the top bin you can get and in Titan's case the cheapest FP64.

    Edit- I think as long as Nvidia keeps designing these heavy compute orientated +500mm2 GPUs and AMD concedes/opts out of directly competing with their own large die and/or performance levels, than this Titan niche will be seen from now on.

    Quote Originally Posted by tajoh111 View Post
    If AMD does this again(and it would be stupid not to if a market can support a 1000 dollar card), Nvidia will raise the price stakes as well when their cards come later.
    How can you possibly know this? That is making one big assumption.
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