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    Quote Originally Posted by SKYMTL View Post
    Rage3D.

    However, from experience, I can tell you that NEITHER AMD nor NVIDIA typically send NDA products out more than two weeks before launch. 1 week is usually the norm. That goes doubly for ultra high end products like the GTX 690.

    This allows companies to properly control information from the sites which typically leak like a sieve.

    Some other things that should be mentioned.

    - Many sites (including that Tom's article) continually repeat the BS which WCCF posted. The 3DMark screenshot has been proven fake time and again yet certain publications refuse to check their information before posting.

    - The so-called "pictures" of Titan are obviously Tesla parts and don't belong under the GeForce brand. Again, sites are propagating misleading information in an effort to boost their pageviews.
    WCCFTech is just a relay with chinese forums and Titan pictures was a false interpretation by some guys here :

    Oh and incase you want to know what the Tesla K20X actually looks like than see the following pictures (courtesy of Chiphell forums)
    They never said that's the first pics of Titan card. The problem is not really WCCFTech but what people do with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boxleitnerb View Post
    Sounds implausible. Cut down a 384bit interface to 256bit to accomodate 2/4 GB? Don't think so.

    My guess:

    14/15 SMX, 850 MHz base clock, 930 MHz turbo clock
    384bit, 6GB 6Gbps memory
    275W TDP
    Name "Geforce Titan"
    250w TDP most likely.
    They don't, necessarily, have to cut the interface down to 256bit to have 2/4GB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordEC911 View Post
    250w TDP most likely.
    They don't, necessarily, have to cut the interface down to 256bit to have 2/4GB.
    250W seems a bit low for a card named Titan. I would suspect they go all out. Not 375W or so, but a little more than 250W.
    You're right regarding the interface, but doesn't that lead to performance problems? Clamshell mode - a certain part of the memory will have a much slower bandwidth than the rest.

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    How do we know it is the 25th?
    Isn't it unusual for reviewers to get samples this early? Usually they get cards 1-2 weeks before launch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boxleitnerb View Post
    250W seems a bit low for a card named Titan. I would suspect they go all out. Not 375W or so, but a little more than 250W.
    You're right regarding the interface, but doesn't that lead to performance problems? Clamshell mode - a certain part of the memory will have a much slower bandwidth than the rest.
    Nope they have memory controllers that each handle 64bit, Titan will have two more memory controllers than the 256bit part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iconyu View Post
    Nope they have memory controllers that each handle 64bit, Titan will have two more memory controllers than the 256bit part.
    Usually there is a correlation between memory controllers and the amount of memory used on a card.
    384bit=3GB/6GB with 12/24 chips

    If you want to use 4GB with a 384bit interface, there will be performance problems if the last GB is addressed, because it is not full bandwidth. 2GB on a 384bit interface doesn't make sense either. Either you have 1.5GB full speed and 512MB at lower speed or you have 1/3 of your memory controller doing nothing, consuming energy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boxleitnerb View Post
    Usually there is a correlation between memory controllers and the amount of memory used on a card.
    384bit=3GB/6GB with 12/24 chips

    If you want to use 4GB with a 384bit interface, there will be performance problems if the last GB is addressed, because it is not full bandwidth. 2GB on a 384bit interface doesn't make sense either. Either you have 1.5GB full speed and 512MB at lower speed or you have 1/3 of your memory controller doing nothing, consuming energy.
    Bus width and memory size have traditionally been matched but its been more the the standard than a rule.

    It's similar to running a set of say 2gb dimms and a set of 1gb dimms on your mb, its not pretty sounding but functionally it will work fine as long as the different memory can operate within the same spec.

    In the end you pay for the performance level of the card relative to the competition for the most part. Even if there is some performance penalty due to the memory configuration you still buy the card for its actual performance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boxleitnerb View Post
    Usually there is a correlation between memory controllers and the amount of memory used on a card.
    384bit=3GB/6GB with 12/24 chips

    If you want to use 4GB with a 384bit interface, there will be performance problems if the last GB is addressed, because it is not full bandwidth. 2GB on a 384bit interface doesn't make sense either. Either you have 1.5GB full speed and 512MB at lower speed or you have 1/3 of your memory controller doing nothing, consuming energy.
    Ah sorry, I only read your part of the conversation, I also don't think Nvidia will use 384bit for 2/4gb of ram. For me the logical choices are either 3gb or 256bit, anything else is just silly, and 384bit makes the PCB more expensive. It's just messy, and I can't think of an elegant solution for that situation, if AMD can offer 3gb cards so can nvidia.

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    Woot! Interesting leak...March release huh?

    And 780ti, makes sense. GTX285 all over again-.

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    Not al leak, just crap. People posting 50x the K20x Specifications won't get you anywhere. Desktop parts will be clocked higher than these.

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    What a load of crap...

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    big crap
    WOOOOOF

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    Every single site ( may I say crappy site ? ) wants its moment of fame...

    With nVIDIA's aggressiveness towards leaks and things a reviewer does and they do not appreciate, what makes you think that anybody would like to sacrifice his sample-income by spilling the beans ?

    Regarding the samples, who verified that some people have received a sample already ? A guy posting on rage3d or any forum in general ?
    You do realize that it could be any1, heck, it could be me with a second account
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    I know some allready have there cards . But yeah we all have to wait for the release date.

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    I'm just saying.
    And yes, I too have a confirmed "owner"

    Anyway people, it's not going to be long, and it's characteristics and performance won't change no matter how much you speculate, argue, or whatever.
    Coding 24/7... Limited forums/PMs time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenchZowner View Post
    Every single site ( may I say crappy site ? ) wants its moment of fame...

    With nVIDIA's aggressiveness towards leaks and things a reviewer does and they do not appreciate, what makes you think that anybody would like to sacrifice his sample-income by spilling the beans ?

    Regarding the samples, who verified that some people have received a sample already ? A guy posting on rage3d or any forum in general ?
    You do realize that it could be any1, heck, it could be me with a second account
    The editor of ht4u.net stated yesterday that he again didn't receive a sample from Nvidia (Nvidia didn't provide the GTX680 to them). Now why would he say that unless he knew his colleagues at other sites did in fact receive samples already? The picture is coming together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boxleitnerb View Post
    The editor of ht4u.net stated yesterday that he again didn't receive a sample from Nvidia (Nvidia didn't provide the GTX680 to them). Now why would he say that unless he knew his colleagues at other sites did in fact receive samples already? The picture is coming together.
    I thought I had confirmed that already ( that reviewers and not reviewers have samples already )
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    I misunderstood, sorry
    Hopefully we'll get some leaks during the weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boxleitnerb View Post
    I misunderstood, sorry
    Hopefully we'll get some leaks during the weekend.
    Im seriously affraid the rumor mills will just continue again for some week...
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    Maybe not?
    First listing, 975 Euro in Denmark. 6GB seems confirmed:
    http://www.proshop.dk/Grafikkort/ASU...5-2394804.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by boxleitnerb View Post
    Maybe not?
    First listing, 975 Euro in Denmark. 6GB seems confirmed:
    http://www.proshop.dk/Grafikkort/ASU...5-2394804.html
    Nice find, pre tax translates to about 900usd.
    Last edited by GoldenTiger; 02-07-2013 at 04:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boxleitnerb View Post
    Maybe not?
    First listing, 975 Euro in Denmark. 6GB seems confirmed:
    http://www.proshop.dk/Grafikkort/ASU...5-2394804.html
    nice
    WOOOOOF

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    Added it to cart, got this: Leveringsstatus: Bestilt, forventet p? lager d. 18-02-2013

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