Seeker-: imho if you use LM as TIM1, then there are almost no gains in lapping die itself or underside of IHS. Also if using IX or LM as TIM2 between IHS & cooling system.
Seeker-: imho if you use LM as TIM1, then there are almost no gains in lapping die itself or underside of IHS. Also if using IX or LM as TIM2 between IHS & cooling system.
I am talking about removing the IHS completely and lapping the die of the cpu. I know some people will say there aren't any gains to be had, but I can't see it making anything worse as long as the entire die contacts the waterblock.
I'm just not sure if I can do it without needing to remove the entire latch and bracket system surrounding the socket.
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pump: MCP35x
rad: UT60 360, XT45 240
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Question about Liquid Metal Ultra: what's the best and/or easiest way to remove the LMU TIM for a new application?
I used it between the die and IHS....I had to pull the cpu from the board to test something else....now it's time to re-install.
Edit: Wiping with cheap toilet paper and then 91% isopropyl worked fine.
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Just Unlidded and what a difference in temps and stability , Im so impressed i decided to start my clocking from beginning again and see how low i can drop Vcore and temps with a set of 2133 memory and once I hit bottom Ill work back up to a good power to heat ratio . So far everything has been successful with a 25c drop in celcuis in prime of 3 hours and IBT passed. I was able to get IHS off with out a scratch and my top was a hella tight from my water block . but was well worth the drop in temps and vcore I'm achieving , its killing my best sandy s by a lot . Right now I'm priming as Im doing this 4.7 @ 1.330 Vcore
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The stuff works incredibly well when done right. I did a 3227C that runs retarded cool in my Torture rack system on water.
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The last two I have tested went 5100 and 5250, my current 3227Cxxx bare can do 5300 though it takes some juice. All binning is done on my torture rack water system.
Yes I usually use FM11 or Vantage and 3DM06.
Here is a quick run of FM11 at 5150mhz with a 680 on water done last week. http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/5148895![]()
Your CPU score is very low,I get 1000 more than you by 5GHZ
i use a Maximus IV Extreme P67
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Hi hersounds, I am new to PC building but I followed everyone here on this thread closely now, I am getting a chip after vacation (Christmas) and I'm gonna do this. Did you get better temperature using Coolaboratory Liquid Pro vs. Phobya LM?
Thanks man and everyone else here for such great results.
Also my cooler is Corsair H100i with copper plating, should I use Liquid Pro between IHS and copper heatsink or more normal TIM material?
Thanks!!!
Welcome to xtreme Systems...Yes coollaboratory works a little better that Phobya LM,about corsair H100I is not problem you can use between IHS and copper heatsink.
be careful with metal liquid, take really care, and don't start your system after be safe that the work its fine as well.
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NO,do not use liquid pro in contact with copper-base or aluminium.Also do not use on ihs !!!! You can use liquid metals ONLY on naked cpu-s and cpu coolers with nickel plated base such as prolimatech megahalems for example.
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Gallium disolve the aluminum but not copper alex...use just a little and relax nothing to worry...just " lapping" a little or use isopropyl alcohol to clean and that is all.
using just a little does not stick or weld
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Thanks for the welcome.
I see there are some different response for Liquid Metal stuff + Copper heatsink + IHS top.
I know Liquid Metal uses Gallium, and Gallium kills Aluminium. I will research Gallium/liquid metal vs. Copper now! And find out more information...
BTW guys, I found this. It was interesting! I'm sure you all heard of this "Indigo Xtreme" TIM before, it's a bit different. Anyway this guy said he tested with a bunch of different TIMs, including IX. Delid CPU, apply Liquid Pro to the die, then test with different TIMs.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1260540/i...mx4-pk1-lqp-ix
I hope this is helpful and maybe more interesting information for you guys!
Cheers
I will look attention to that ... so my block is in serious danger from a few months ago ? I don't see anything wrong on cooper base, but i repeat i will look attention
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