AMD "Piledriver" refresh of Zambezi - info, speculations, test, fans

[AMDforME]

Welcome

You are from Germany? (Judging from that "Danke")

I WISH...

I go there on Biz now and then. It's a wonderful country, especially for car people.

[tbone8ty]

i have "review kit" from AMD, i think with good binned cpu by AMD. Power consumption is on par/few watts higher then 8150 in prime95. Overclocking on same voltage level as 8150 is 100 Mhz better.

Some how this doesn't surprise me

I'm guessing idle will be a little better and load will be higher
Than 8150

It will get r@ped in every review again for having same power numbers as 8150 no matter if its 15% faster

[PedantOne]

15 percent? c´mon, in best case it is 10-15 in few optimized applications, x264, Winrar, Cinebench.

[tbone8ty]

15 percent? c´mon, in best case it is 10-15 in few optimized applications, x264, Winrar, Cinebench.

Whatever the performance increase is then it will still get bashed

Only thing saving it is price tag hopefully

[AMDforME]

Let's not forget that this is a core revision not a node change or major architectural design change.

Intel got a whopping ~5% from both a node drop from 32nm to 22nm and a switch to trigate transistors when moving from Sandy Bridge to Ivy Bridge, so AMD ain't doing too badly IMO if they gain ~10-15%, increase base clockspeeds and retain the same 125w TDP on the 8xxx series.

In addition if Vishera OCs like Zambezi then we're in for a good time. I'm not the least bit concerned about how much power Vishera draws, even when OC'ed. With a ~$200 price tag for the FX-8350 (in the U.S.), I expect a lot of people will be all over these chippies like white-on-rice.

[PedantOne]

Price tag is great, and THIS IS first real upgrade for Phenom II owners. First FX was not, 2nd generation is.

[cezar]

AMD FX-8350 "Vishera" Linux Benchmarks

For many of the Linux computational benchmarks carried out in this article, the AMD FX-8350 proved to be competitive with the Intel Core i7 3770K "Ivy Bridge" processor.

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag..._vishera&num=1

[sdlvx]

Let's not forget that this is a core revision not a node change or major architectural design change.

Intel got a whopping ~5% from both a node drop from 32nm to 22nm and a switch to trigate transistors when moving from Sandy Bridge to Ivy Bridge, so AMD ain't doing too badly IMO if they gain ~10-15%, increase base clockspeeds and retain the same 125w TDP on the 8xxx series.

In addition if Vishera OCs like Zambezi then we're in for a good time. I'm not the least bit concerned about how much power Vishera draws, even when OC'ed. With a ~$200 price tag for the FX-8350 (in the U.S.), I expect a lot of people will be all over these chippies like white-on-rice.

There is nothing xtreme about crying over power bills.

[PedantOne]

AMD FX-8350 "Vishera" Linux Benchmarks



http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag..._vishera&num=1

yeah, it is possible, FX-8150 in under Linux better then Sandy Bridge, but who has Linux?

[tbone8ty]

I guess for what it is and if price is good...not bad at least we're not going backwards like bulldozer was

[Oese]

the phoronix test really looks good... maybe i'll upgrade to win8 (with a start button tool tho), then only the software makers have to move

[AMDforME]

AMD's roadmap that has been out for some time shows ~15 gains with each iteration; Piledriver, Steamroller and Excavator. I have no doubt that they will achieve this goal which represents a pretty healthy performance gain when it's ~15% over each prior iteration.

AMD is basically the choice for those who want the most bang-for-the-buck and/or do not want to support an unscrupulous company like Intel. Both are excellent reasons to buy AMD. Thankfully we have a choice and can vote with our wallet.

[Olivon]

http://www.cowcotland.com/articles/1...d-fx-8350.html

[informal]

Thanks to Olikan from AT forum for the link. Yeah,it's kind of a review of 8350 .
Odd selection of tests but Vishera does pretty good,even better when you consider it costs <200$. X264 encoding results are only lower than intel's most expensive 1K$ CPUs. In games it does well also. Power draw tests show(if done correctly) that 8350 draws similar power as FX8120 (both at stock) under full load, and considerably less in idle state. That's 20+W less than FX8150 in their chart.

edit: damn, Olivon beat me by 2 minutes

[sdlvx]

yeah, it is possible, FX-8150 in under Linux better then Sandy Bridge, but who has Linux?

I am going to try and run Gentoo Linux with my FX 8350, since it will compile the entire OS with optimizations for Piledriver and every piece of software installed thats FOSS will be compiled with GCC PD optimizations. This is what PD looks like with a benchmark suite that isn't all ICC compiled crap (the *marks, Cinebench R11.5).

I do expect FX 8350 to do somewhat worse than this in Win7 benchmarks, no doubt. Does it not raise eye brows to you guys that FX 8350 demolishes 3770k at C-Ray yet loses at Cinebench? They're doing the same thing.

[sequoia464]

http://www.cowcotland.com/articles/1...d-fx-8350.html

Not up on my french, assuming these are at default clocks?

The "excellente surprise" part looks good though.

[Olivon]

Yeah. That's power consumption @stock and a 5GHz screen with 1.45v applied on BIOS. Max boot was 5.2GHz during their test.

[vario]

20watts less at stock looks good, maybe after OC its going to be on par with phenom II OC.
No big changes in perf in any tests tho, where it was good its slightly better, when it was bad its slightly less bad :-/.
Im really hoping it isnt such a power hog after OC, 5ghz stable with a reasonably high power consumption should be ok performance wise.
It still isnt all round better than ancient phenom II`s tho.Eh.
Any confirmation from AMD if AM3+ is going to get steamroller upgrade ?

[AMDforME]

Yeah. That's power consumption @stock and a 5GHz screen with 1.45v applied on BIOS. Max boot was 5.2GHz during their test.

Thanks for the info. It looks like 5 GHz. may be accessible to many with Vishera? What were you using for cooling and how hot did the CPU get full load @ ~5 GHz. ?

[Oese]

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[EniGmA1987]

AMD FX-8350 "Vishera" Linux Benchmarks

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag..._vishera&num=1

I would have likd to see a Thuban core processor added to that list of results too

[BlindShot]

I would have likd to see a Thuban core processor added to that list of results too

The site is not working for me?

[sequoia464]

The site is not working for me?

Looks like they have pulled the plugs on all of the early reviews

[Daveburt714]

Listed @ NewEgg $219.99...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ssors-Desktops

Hopefully Micro-Center will have them tomorrow too!

[sequoia464]

Listed @ NewEgg $219.99...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ssors-Desktops

Hopefully Micro-Center will have them tomorrow too!

according to this AMD slide the 8350 should be priced at $195.00
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2278251