AMD "Piledriver" refresh of Zambezi - info, speculations, test, fans

**SUPERKAMES** · 09-21-2012, 02:41 AM

@Daveburt714 :

I cant show everything right now . Sorry...

**FlanK3r** · 09-21-2012, 02:57 AM

superpi 32M at stock do you can?

(this benchamrk showing nothing about real performance and still a bit for me...)

**sequoia464** · 09-21-2012, 03:31 AM

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**Alex-Ro** · 09-21-2012, 03:47 AM

Daveburt try to use same aida version and same memory timings,freq and CPU-NB

**informal** · 09-21-2012, 04:03 AM

Thanks for the sneak peak SUPERKAMES! Any chance we can see some more before NDA lifts?

**Mechanical Man** · 09-21-2012, 08:47 AM

Did not see this one in here yet.

**informal** · 09-21-2012, 09:12 AM

It's on previous page

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**Mechanical Man** · 09-21-2012, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by informal

It's on previous page

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U sure? i dont see it.

**FlanK3r** · 09-21-2012, 09:49 AM

yes, is here...Cinebench R13...I want this version....

**informal** · 09-21-2012, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by Mechanical Man

U sure? i dont see it.

It's practically the same image as the one on the previous page and the one(s) hardware.fr posted...

**SUPERKAMES** · 09-21-2012, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by informal

Thanks for the sneak peak SUPERKAMES! Any chance we can see some more before NDA lifts?

Yes you can .Maybe the last thing from me before NDA lifts .But very important & impressive.

You can see the Cinebench R11.5 @4.5ghz ~ 7.7x pts .
--> at the same speed the I7 2600K ~ 8.82 pts as I know .

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But in realworld application , with the two famous 3D aplication + renderer : 3dsmax 2011 + Vray 1.5SP5 , the thing you already know seem to be stronger.

Rendering time (second): Lower is better:

FX 8120@4.5ghz : ~ 679s
I7 2600K@4.5ghz : ~ 621s
The thing you already know :~ 580s

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...maybe its realworld rendering performance is similar to a quadcore I7 Ivy Bridge ..
...It must be very important to anyone who care about computer graphic....May try mentalray later.

**Daveburt714** · 09-21-2012, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by SUPERKAMES

I cant show everything right now . Sorry...

Hope I didn't come off harsh... It was pretty late.

When does the NDA lift? Any chance you could share some x264 FHD benchmarks?
http://downloads.guru3d.com/x264-FHD...load-2825.html

If you can't I understand, don't want to get you in trouble...

Thanks for sharing!

**Oese** · 09-21-2012, 11:28 PM

So again, in Cinebench 11.5 it seems we get like 5-7% more.

Cinebench R13 and R14 renderers show a pretty good leap forward for all FX processors because of the new instruction sets enabled in the renderer.

People should test Cinema 4D render times instead of cinebench against Intel when Vishera arrives....

**FlanK3r** · 09-21-2012, 11:46 PM

So...I wake up and I must benchmarked my FX-8150 at the same CPU clocks. Others settings you have at printscreen...I think, it is not bad gain in performance...

FX-8150@4.5GHz 2400MHZ NB and RAM = 7.20 points so FX-8350 7.77points, this is 0.57point up

. So in theory, OC FX Zambezi can 8.2 points, Vishera could about 8.8 points

**BeepBeep2** · 09-22-2012, 12:18 AM

Originally Posted by FlanK3r

So...I wake up and I must benchmarked my FX-8150 at the same CPU clocks. Others settings you have at printscreen...I think, it is not bad gain in performance...

FX-8150@4.5GHz 2400MHZ NB and RAM = 7.20 points so FX-8350 7.77points, this is 0.57point up

. So in theory, OC FX Zambezi can 8.2 points, Vishera could about 8.8 points
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Dirty OS?

Originally Posted by Daveburt714

Hope I didn't come off harsh... It was pretty late.

When does the NDA lift? Any chance you could share some x264 FHD benchmarks?
http://downloads.guru3d.com/x264-FHD...load-2825.html

If you can't I understand, don't want to get you in trouble...

Thanks for sharing!

I'm working on getting a media relation / PR guy review thang with AMD...so lets see where this goes.

AFAIK nobody is supposed to even tell when NDA lifts...

**Oese** · 09-22-2012, 12:19 AM

yeah that would be 8%. For oldfashioned badly bully compatible R11.5 it is a nice result, since it reflects gains achieved by general tweaks.

But still, i want to have that damn R13 cinebench version ASAAAAP. Noone out there that has a leak??? And then test it vs Intel.

The 4.88 ghz is the turbo in flankers screen? Anyway, the 2.4 ghz NB and 1.2 ghz ram is a bit of a tuning i doubt AMDs showcase rig has to offer... Bad timings tho

**Zeus** · 09-22-2012, 12:31 AM

Flank, could you rerun that CB 11.5 at 2.2GHz CPU-NB and ram at 800 8-8-8? That is what Superkames is running i guess. Your score might be slightly lower then.

**FlanK3r** · 09-22-2012, 01:03 AM

ok, give me some minutes or hour, now I have breakfest and relax time in game

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**SUPERKAMES** · 09-22-2012, 02:02 AM

FX 8120@4.5ghz cinebench R11.5 .

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**Smartidiot89** · 09-22-2012, 02:07 AM

Originally Posted by BeepBeep2

Dirty OS?

I'm working on getting a media relation / PR guy review thang with AMD...so lets see where this goes.

AFAIK nobody is supposed to even tell when NDA lifts...

Correct, the NDA is always under NDA

Really makes sense, since you aren't supposed to talk about what you know there are no reason to spill the beans when "something" which you can't talk about launches

**Zeus** · 09-22-2012, 02:14 AM

7.77 vs 7.42 points is only a very small improvement.

If this new gen CPU can't do at least 9 points it's hardly worth upgrading imho.

**FlanK3r** · 09-22-2012, 02:21 AM

Here is it, lol, score is better ( i think, because timings 8-8-8 1600 is better for render than 10-12-12 2400)

Originally Posted by Zeus

7.77 vs 7.42 points is only a very small improvement.

If this new gen CPU can't do at least 9 points it's hardly worth upgrading imho.

Remember, this is not uniq new architecture, is it only refresh as SB to IB.

**haylui** · 09-22-2012, 02:22 AM

take your time

**Nintendork** · 09-22-2012, 04:30 AM

Originally Posted by Zeus

7.77 vs 7.42 points is only a very small improvement.

If this new gen CPU can't do at least 9 points it's hardly worth upgrading imho.

Cinebench 11.5 is just outdated software.

A CPU is not stronger than other just cause of his design but cause of the software and how much that software is optimized.

http://www.c4dcafe.com/ipb/topic/684...es-in-c4d-r13/

Cinema 4D R13 (RC 45040)
FX-8120 4.5Ghz 171sec
PII X6 3.8Ghz 240sec
FX 30% faster / X6 40% slower

Cinebench R11
FX-8120 4.5Ghz 7.25pts
PII X6 3.8Ghz 6.36pts
FX 14% faster

See the pattern?

**Zeus** · 09-22-2012, 04:40 AM

Typical AMD fanboism. If the hardware sucks we blame it on the software. All benchmarks older than a year should go straight out of the window because they've become obsolete, right? Sorry man but that just doesn't make sense. AMD should support legacy instructions as well as the newest instructions.

Never saw this remark when a new Intel cpu came out, they seem to be strong in every benchmark thrown at it, regardless of how old the bench is. I'm no Intel fanboi by any means but we got to see things how they are, not how we want them to be.

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