ASUS Maximus V Forumla/Extreme Official Support Thread

[Raja@ASUS]

Kingpin forums has a thread for the M5E in Shammy's section...

[Dumo]

Boot up xmp settings with cas12 ram




Up a bit

[DEFLORATOR]

as said youre wasting your time trying to use another rom chip from another mobo


1. Acquire a USB Thumb Drive
2. Format the USB drive with a FAT32 file system
3. Download this M5E.CAP http://www.mediafire.com/?p1lkbfpo4c5j7cr
for your motherboard and place the file on the USB drive
4. Place the USB drive into the ROG Connect white USB Port (Mobo with just standby power from psu.)
5. Hold the Rog connect button down for 5 seconds and an amber light near the BIOS chips will flash for some time and when flashing has stopped the BIOS has been successfully updated..
6. verify bclk works
7. can normally flash to bios of choice

LardArse,

The problem is that USB Bios Flashback doesn't touch ME region at all. And this is what seems to be corrupted on Mike's board. The same problem is with bupdater.exe and EZ Flash. They all do NOT update ME region, even if Asus has included updated ME into CAP file. Untill recently Asus didn't provide any legal way to update or fix ME region. This is what they have rolled out recently (as Raja posted):
http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/...ool_V10001.zip

You might want to look at this post.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1004219/o...#post_18118190
I didn't try that tool kit myself but it sounds like a proper way to upgrade/downgrade bios.

Exactly! This is what Mike needs. That tool will update/fix everything. Confirmed working many times, thanks to CodeRush from overclock.net and overclockers.ru.
The latest pack is here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?b28sdb4bb98ccdy
Just rename original *CAP bios file for M5E to bios.bin, place it in the right folder (e.g. Win64) and run upd_all.bat. After flashing is complete, shut dowm PC completely (cut off electricity) for 30 seconds. That is required for new ME come into force.

[LardArse]

LardArse,

The problem is that USB Bios Flashback doesn't touch ME region at all. .

normally it doesnt
with that version it does.

[owikh84]

I think i have asked this quite a few times regarding the ROG MEM TWEAKIT DOESN'T RUN on my TinyXP
It just goes straight to taskbar & blank box and stops there?
MemTweakIt 1.01.7 and 1.01.6 both are not working.

http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread...TweakIt-Scores
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/sho...php?p=22441133

[DEFLORATOR]

normally it doesnt
with that version it does.

What version? What made you think that USB BF will update ME on M5E?

[Raja@ASUS]

What version? What made you think that USB BF will update ME on M5E?

Because he works for ASUS and provided that version so that it would recover Mike's ME without the rigmarole of the other methods that were posted.

[Alex-Ro]

Raja can you help me about some matter?

I want to ask where does 55 POST CODE comes from mostly,is it the IMC to blame or motherboard.Every single time i set the divider over 2133 i get this code and will not boot,no matter what latency,voltage,vccio or sa voltage.My memory is samsung 30nm,it work flawlessly stable at 2133 9-10-10 1.5V,so i know it is capable of over 2200 with no problem.

I don;t know what to blame first,the IMC(3570K ivy bridge) could it really be that bad?Or the motherboard,biostar z77x hi-fi?If it is the mobo i'll switch to a maximus 5 gene,i'm sick and tired of beeing a beta tester for other,this time i will go with sure things...

Hope you can give me a hint....

[Raja@ASUS]

Could be IMC failing training - even if you think it is 100% stable, it might not be stable enough to pass the read/write tests which results in code 55.


If DIMMs are not really binned for 2133 but you want to OC to 2133 anyway, you either need to relax all DRAM timings to debug it, or accept lower operating frequency.

[Alex-Ro]

No,it is fully stable,memtest and whatever at 2133.But above 2133,eg 2200,2400 and up is imposible to get it started,no post,each time 55 code.So,no matter what,it won't get past 55 code,no matter what latency,DIMM,SA or VCCIO voltage...

[Raja@ASUS]

Then just run it at 2133, you are not losing much every day performance so it's not worth buying a new board for unless you are a 32M bencher. Even then, nobody can guarantee you that you will get more if the parts are limited.

[andressergio]

Raja can you help me about some matter?

I want to ask where does 55 POST CODE comes from mostly,is it the IMC to blame or motherboard.Every single time i set the divider over 2133 i get this code and will not boot,no matter what latency,voltage,vccio or sa voltage.My memory is samsung 30nm,it work flawlessly stable at 2133 9-10-10 1.5V,so i know it is capable of over 2200 with no problem.

I don;t know what to blame first,the IMC(3570K ivy bridge) could it really be that bad?Or the motherboard,biostar z77x hi-fi?If it is the mobo i'll switch to a maximus 5 gene,i'm sick and tired of beeing a beta tester for other,this time i will go with sure things...

Hope you can give me a hint....

Alex

maybe you want to read here i have a gem chip that i get totally random i can boot 2933 CL11 no problems and run 2800 CL11 24-7 after a month of runing like that i started getting CODES 23 - 20 and 55, the worst is 55 indicating some thing going with IMC BUT

im runing all ok again now

read here

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...14#post5136814

that what i did but that wasnt the solution

be sure DRAM CLK PERIOD on AUTO at first and relax FOUR ACT TIME to 30 for ex, also careful on LATENCY BOUNDARY to tight might lead to that errors try 12, and leave ALL third timmings AUTO as Lat Bound touches those when you change it

here i learn a lot of each timmings

http://rog.asus.com/136402012/maximu...cking-guide/2/

Hope you solve the issue

cheers !
Sergio

[Alex-Ro]

Thanks,i'll keep that in mind.I'll get another 3570K tomorrow to see what's up,this one is known to do 2600 on a asus board,so i'll know for sure whom to blame,the board or my actual cpu.Hope it's the cpu tough

[andressergio]

Thanks,i'll keep that in mind.I'll get another 3570K tomorrow to see what's up,this one is known to do 2600 on a asus board,so i'll know for sure whom to blame,the board or my actual cpu.Hope it's the cpu tough

Good luck !

[Raja@ASUS]

Alex

maybe you want to read here i have a gem chip that i get totally random i can boot 2933 CL11 no problems and run 2800 CL11 24-7 after a month of runing like that i started getting CODES 23 - 20 and 55, the worst is 55 indicating some thing going with IMC BUT

im runing all ok again now

read here

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...14#post5136814

that what i did but that wasnt the solution

be sure DRAM CLK PERIOD on AUTO at first and relax FOUR ACT TIME to 30 for ex, also careful on LATENCY BOUNDARY to tight might lead to that errors try 12, and leave ALL third timmings AUTO as Lat Bound touches those when you change it

here i learn a lot of each timmings

http://rog.asus.com/136402012/maximu...cking-guide/2/

Hope you solve the issue

cheers !
Sergio

Bear in mind he is using a Biostar board, so some of those settings are not available to him. The guide you linked was written by me and is the same one that is downloadable here. I chose not to include that becaue Alex said he has tried all latency settings on his board already. Bottom line is that there is such a small performance advantage running past 2133 that it's a moot point on 24/7 systems. Not worth buying a new board just for that unless you're a Super Pi 32M bencher...

-Raja

[andressergio]

Bear in mind he is using a Biostar board, so some of those settings are not available to him. The guide you linked was written by me and is the same one that is downloadable here. I chose not to include that becaue Alex said he has tried all latency settings on his board already. Bottom line is that there is such a small performance advantage running past 2133 that it's a moot point on 24/7 systems. Not worth buying a new board just for that unless you're a Super Pi 32M bencher...

-Raja

didnt notice that raja either way i learnt a lot from your guide so i just pass it over and over wherever i see someone troubled with timmings

Cheers !!!
Sergio

[DEFLORATOR]

Because he works for ASUS and provided that version so that it would recover Mike's ME without the rigmarole of the other methods that were posted.

We are talking about different things. Again, what version? I'm talking about USB Bios Flashback; word "version" isn't applicable to USB BF.
I'm trying to explain that neither USB Bios Flashback, bupdater, nor EZ Flash would update ME code, even if Asus has included updated ME in a CAP file. And you seem to talk about this utility:
http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/...ool_V10001.zip
That I know.

[DEFLORATOR]

Great info raja and great support.

If you are between formula and extreme, psc goes about 25-50mhz higher clocks on the extreme due to it's design and extra pcb layers

Raja, can you confirm this please? That M5E has more PCB layers than M5F (and M5G probably as well)?
CPU VRM of all 3 boards looks identical in major part.

[Raja@ASUS]

We are talking about different things. Again, what version? I'm talking about USB Bios Flashback; word "version" isn't applicable to USB BF.
I'm trying to explain that neither USB Bios Flashback, bupdater, nor EZ Flash would update ME code, even if Asus has included updated ME in a CAP file. And you seem to talk about this utility:
http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/...ool_V10001.zip
That I know.

Last response on this one as we're going round in circles:

Not sure why you're focusing on this part when the link that Shammy provided is for a "special build" that rescues the ME. The rest is just semantics. He explained to you that the link he posted updates the ME but as you never read his previous post properly, you keep focusing on the conventional ME update process instead - implying that he has made some kind of mistake or does not know what is going on about ME updating.

To be specific and save more confusion, look at number 3 in that list. It has a download link. That link contains the "version" Shammy is referring to and it updates the ME as he told you. That's all that is needed and the method he posted WORKS with that file. As he said to you in response to USB BF not doing it: "normally it doesnt with that version it does." He said that because, well, it works.

Lastly, if you still don't understand, check Mike's post here confirming the file Shammy and the method he suggested with THAT FILE linked works:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post5135332

[Raja@ASUS]

Raja, can you confirm this please? That M5E has more PCB layers than M5F (and M5G probably as well)?
CPU VRM of all 3 boards looks identical in major part.

Will you believe me or keep focusing on the VRM? :P



It has 8 layers, other boards you have mentioned here have 6. VRM is not really relevant to why it has 8 layers so don't focus on that.

[DEFLORATOR]

Will you believe me or keep focusing on the VRM? :P

It has 8 layers, other boards you have mentioned here have 6. VRM is not really relevant to why it has 8 layers so don't focus on that.

Thanks.
Yes, I know that identical VRM doesn't mean same number of PCB layers.
Anyway, more layers are always better. Same with MB, videocards and DRAM PCBs. Sorry to know that M5F is inferior in this respect to M5E.

[Raja@ASUS]

Thanks.
Yes, I know that identical VRM doesn't mean same number of PCB layers.
Anyway, more layers are always better. Same with MB, videocards and DRAM PCBs. Sorry to know that M5F is inferior in this respect to M5E.

It's a more expensive board, does not really make sense to have a more expensive product with the same engineering throughout as a cheaper model.

From solely an overclocking perspective the difference boils down to slightly better DRAM clocking with some DIMMs and break neck GPU clocks. For the Extreme benching guys that stuff matters. For 24/7 folks, the differences are small and most of the decision lies in the additional PCIe lanes thanks to the PLX addition.

[Alex-Ro]

Well it's the board's fault.Will get a gene 5,Thanks for the help guys.

[andressergio]

Well yesterday i received this amazing board the M5F thanks friend !!!

luv the volts regulation over the gene 5 and the look i even using less volts on CPU than on gene

even my 2,5 year old kid luvs it

[FlanK3r]

wow, nice, what components are for this wattercooled baby?! Looks big!