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[Particle]

^ The logical extreme there being a single desktop that has every icon from everything on it. That would be equally silly. Some degree of categorization is useful. Many like the concept of a start menu as a place to start certain classes of tasks with the option to also access frequently used stuff without extra clicks by using shortcuts, myself included.

[N19h7m4r3]

^ The logical extreme there being a single desktop that has every icon from everything on it. That would be equally silly. Some degree of categorization is useful. Many like the concept of a start menu as a place to start certain classes of tasks with the option to also access frequently used stuff without extra clicks by using shortcuts, myself included.

Yup! I use rocketdock for things I use daily, the rest are usually there right after clicking the start button.

[MattiasNYC]

I'm still struggling to understand why people have a problem with the start screen, or whatever it's called, the one with Metro.

To me it just seems like a bigger start menu with apps added. So if one wants to use Metro apps it's great. If one doesn't one doesn't have to. It's just that easy. And to launch a desktop app one just launch it from the new start page rather than from the start menu. I just don't see the big difference.....

[STaRGaZeR]

I also think the Start button's death is long overdue, it is a tweaked relic from Windows 95. The idea of accessing everything through one menu is archaic, imagine if you applications had a single menu button from which you can choose File, Edit, View, Options, Help, etc. Why have that extra click?

It's so archaic that Firefox changed its traditional File+Edit+etc. for a single menu. Go figure.

Oh, and you can go back to the usual buttons easily. No damage done and everyone is happy.

[Starscream]

It's so archaic that Firefox changed its traditional File+Edit+etc. for a single menu. Go figure.

Oh, and you can go back to the usual buttons easily. No damage done and everyone is happy.

Rumor is that in the final version you wont be able to go back to the usual buttons.

This goal suggested that Microsoft would let businesses configure Windows 8 in such a way that users could boot directly to the desktop and skip the Metro-style Start Screen. But the software giant has had a change of heart, and my sources at Microsoft tell me it’s been busy ripping out legacy code for the old Start button and Start Menu so that developers won’t be able to write utilities that bring those features back. And boot to the desktop? Forget about it.

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[paulbagz]

Hahah omfg, just finally put on my picture password, love this feature so much ahah.

-PB

[rintamarotta]

Damn it takes long to navigate into shutdown, reset etc. menu, first need get from desktop to metro and then from there to sidemenu that you need wait 2-3 seconds to open once you put mouse to right corner.
Microsoft failed yet again. Ofc people can use Control+Alt+Delete but some peoples dont even know that key combo.

If microsoft removes startmenu functionality completly from windows 8, i will completly remake startmenu again with c++ to appear just like it used to be before.

[PatRaceTin]

finally i got classic shell

[Mats]

Microsoft failed yet again. Ofc people can use Control+Alt+Delete but some peoples dont even know that key combo.

Alt F4 works, and you can do this.

Too bad there isn't a power button on Start out of the box tho.

[andressergio]

new drivers certified and still it lockups...damn

[paulbagz]

Damn it takes long to navigate into shutdown, reset etc. menu, first need get from desktop to metro and then from there to sidemenu that you need wait 2-3 seconds to open once you put mouse to right corner.
Microsoft failed yet again. Ofc people can use Control+Alt+Delete but some peoples dont even know that key combo.

If microsoft removes startmenu functionality completly from windows 8, i will completly remake startmenu again with c++ to appear just like it used to be before.

You can go straight to that side menu via mouse or touch on the right hand side.

Side Menu -> Settings -> Shut Down.

One click more then traditional shutting down. You can also press Windows + I to get that side menu and then its straight to Shut Down from there.

-PB

[andressergio]

damn with this OS i like it but it does bad things

for ex corrupted 2 times my RAID0 of HDD seems to write some stuff on it that when i change to W7 starts checking HDD

and second time it corrupted my SSD install RAID0 of W7 uFFFFFF !!!

lockups still exists its not nvidia drivers as theyre certified now, aint chrome i just used IE so i dont know what on earth causes the lockups

[NapalmV5]

damn with this OS i like it but it does bad things

for ex corrupted 2 times my RAID0 of HDD seems to write some stuff on it that when i change to W7 starts checking HDD

and second time it corrupted my SSD install RAID0 of W7 uFFFFFF !!!

lockups still exists its not nvidia drivers as theyre certified now, aint chrome i just used IE so i dont know what on earth causes the lockups

yes mate its not the nvidia drivers and its not the os.. raid0 here and never had a corruption (areca+intel)

if its not a platform issue i would increase all the system voltages one by one.. vcpu vram vgpu etc

[andressergio]

yes mate its not the nvidia drivers and its not the os.. raid0 here and never had a corruption (areca+intel)

if its not a platform issue i would increase all the system voltages one by one.. vcpu vram vgpu etc

so u dont have locks now ? Cauz ive seen more than 10 ppl with my same problem on nvidia forums

cheers
Sergio

[Sparky]

Just because the drivers are certified does not mean they can't cause lockups. How many bad drivers have been made that were WHQL but still had some serious issues?

[NapalmV5]

so u dont have locks now ? Cauz ive seen more than 10 ppl with my same problem on nvidia forums

cheers
Sergio

they must have the same platform

i dont have any lockups/bsods/crashes/instant reboots none of it and never had

on 302.80 now and im playing mp3 acr bf3 no issues

[andressergio]

weird Nap i have that instant maybe is audio drivers dunno but im not testing anymore too much trouble i will wait till a stable version i dont reacall any beta of 7 doing this lockups...

[andressergio]

Just because the drivers are certified does not mean they can't cause lockups. How many bad drivers have been made that were WHQL but still had some serious issues?

yes i agree but i dont know sparky what causes the lockups and less what causes raid0 corrupt for me saves in a dif NTFS format cauz when i put the raid back on the WIN7 it scan like when you turn off bad a eSATA driver or a pendrive---

[SEA]

so u dont have locks now ? Cauz ive seen more than 10 ppl with my same problem on nvidia forums

cheers
Sergio

No single glitch here since February... Radeon, though

[rintamarotta]

I think its about the Intel NIC, SoundCard, SandyBridge CPU or nVidia Card.

My two other test machines does not have any lockups, they use i7 875k or phenom 2 1100t, Realtek Nic, Realtek Onboard Sound, AMD Radeon HD7970 or HD6950 and Corsair Force GT 120 SSD

Id like to hear what NIC, Sound, CPU and GPU combo everyone uses and report if they have lockups, just because some people say its GPU problem and some say its Windows 8 ethernet drivers or then like andressergio said it could be audio drivers also.

Edit :
Found some more possible causes, they think its C-State problem affecting only Intel CPU's and certain chipsets .
http://www.eightforums.com/crashes-d...ze-post-4.html

[NapalmV5]

weird Nap i have that instant maybe is audio drivers dunno but im not testing anymore too much trouble i will wait till a stable version i dont reacall any beta of 7 doing this lockups...

No single glitch here since February... Radeon, though

I think its about the Intel NIC, SoundCard, SandyBridge CPU or nVidia Card.

My two other test machines does not have any lockups, they use i7 875k or phenom 2 1100t, Realtek Nic, Realtek Onboard Sound, AMD Radeon HD7970 or HD6950 and Corsair Force GT 120 SSD

Id like to hear what NIC, Sound, CPU and GPU combo everyone uses and report if they have lockups, just because some people say its GPU problem and some say its Windows 8 ethernet drivers or then like andressergio said it could be audio drivers also.

Edit :
Found some more possible causes, they think its C-State problem affecting only Intel CPU's and certain chipsets .
http://www.eightforums.com/crashes-d...ze-post-4.html

sergio try that above ^

are you using the onboard audio or addin ?

no glitch here since september/dev.. x58a/gtx580

[paulbagz]

Miss the funny little Windows+TAB slider though.

Musn't of got used enough to warrant its place in W8?

-PB

[RPGWiZaRD]

Miss the funny little Windows+TAB slider though.

Musn't of got used enough to warrant its place in W8?

-PB

I thought it was ALT+TAB? I use it daily in Win 7

[andressergio]

sergio try that above ^

are you using the onboard audio or addin ?

no glitch here since september/dev.. x58a/gtx580

thanks napalm no im using YES onboard NIC but audio interface fiirewire PCIe to external card

[paulbagz]

Nah try Windows+TAB on W7

-PB