Early Ivy Bridge Sample Tested

[[XC] Oj101]

Yes, more or less 10 pages ago...
Going back to the 3dMark scores I don't call that a difference but I must grab one for PCI-Ex 3

How can you NOT call that a difference?

[STaRGaZeR]

Here are some reasons:
http://www.nordichardware.com/news/6...um-of-77w.html

Not giving too much credit to those that still confuse TDP and power consumption.

[aussie-revhead]

Does that mean everyone will be searching for E0 chips?

[AVulgarPicture]

sounds like it Aussie. let me know if you see any info about batches and sh1t to keep an eye out for.

regarding IHS, thats pretty shoddy work from intel i wonder if we'll see that lapping and IHS removal becomes the way of Ivy, though there's some instant warranty void happening there and no RMA when you're binning.
i have a CPU here i should post up. was a QX6850 i won on OCAU for $30, IHS removed and the guy had cracked a die mounting the waterblock. said he just wanted it gone as it reminded him too much of the pain of popping a $1500 chip.

[UrbanSmooth]

Just write 77W on the box, Intel! Crikey mocha...

[SubZero.it]

How can you NOT call that a difference?

Let me explain better, that's ok if we consider only performance...but that's hot..too much!
I would like to see a 3575K without the graphics core, this should have a 77W TDP and be less hot..or no?

[Cold Fussion]

Let me explain better, that's ok if we consider only performance...but that's hot..too much!
I would like to see a 3575K without the graphics core, this should have a 77W TDP and be less hot..or no?

What difference would it make if the GPU side is going to be shutoff if you have a discrete card in?

[3NZ0]

Let me explain better, that's ok if we consider only performance...but that's hot..too much!
I would like to see a 3575K without the graphics core, this should have a 77W TDP and be less hot..or no?

Considering the igp is gated when not in use, no.

[SubZero.it]

What difference would it make if the GPU side is going to be shutoff if you have a discrete card in?

Because I'm not interested in having an integrated GPU

[Cold Fussion]

Because I'm not interested in having an integrated GPU

What difference does it make if it's shutoff?

[SubZero.it]

Costs less and I won't have something i would never use..

[onewingedangel]

Costs less and I won't have something i would never use..

It wouldn't cost less - it would require a different design which would cost far more than the savings in production due to the reduced die size. Especially when the IGP can be useful to even those with discrete GPU's when it comes to shutting down the discrete GPU when not in use and saving power, which makes a iGPU-free design even more of a niche for the upper midrange market.

There is no disadvantage of having the integerated GPU - the fact that it lowers the power density of the die also means the CPU portion is able to run cooler.

There are of course the -E models for high-end/workstation market where the objective is more for pure performance rather than balanced performance - but they come with the cost of decreased efficiency.

[RPGWiZaRD]

Usually I'd agree if not for this Lucid Virtu MVP where an integrated chip finally becomes useful.

[aussie-revhead]

Guys has anyone tested if the 2400 strap on a z68 (or even a p67) will now work with an Ivy CPU installed?

[AVulgarPicture]

im doubting it will.

[aussie-revhead]

Meh, just wondering why the 2400 strap has been on the last two chipsets and we can't even use it lol

Z77 will fix it

[l0ud_sil3nc3]

Guys has anyone tested if the 2400 strap on a z68 (or even a p67) will now work with an Ivy CPU installed?

it does

[BeepBeep2]

it does

Does that mean that if I want to overclock Ivy I'll be okay with a Z68 board?

[aussie-revhead]

Well of course, bios supports it so even if the 2400 ram setting wasn't working then you could still overclock with lower ram speeds.

[BeepBeep2]

Well of course, bios supports it so even if the 2400 ram setting wasn't working then you could still overclock with lower ram speeds.

But what's the fun in that? I guess if I was stuck with 2133 I could mess with Hypers but my PSC likes to fly

[Mech0z]

Is the NDA today?

[M.Beier]

Is the NDA today?

Not trying to be an a55 here, but it is always NDA for Intel, when NDA will be lifted... One is not allowed to announce the time/date that it will be lifted, before the given moment.

[l0ud_sil3nc3]

Does that mean that if I want to overclock Ivy I'll be okay with a Z68 board?

yes according to CS, check out the Asus M4E thread, he has 2500 on PSC on Ivy w/ P67/Z68

[[XC] Oj101]

Guys has anyone tested if the 2400 strap on a z68 (or even a p67) will now work with an Ivy CPU installed?

Even the 2,800 MHz multiplier shows on the MIVE, it doesn't matter though, after about 2,700 MHz the performance starts to fall away for some reason (tested on MVG).

[FlanK3r]

maybe its IMC...no every CPU can hit 2800 MHz RAM (second, E0=/=E1)