Some more news.
The GTX 680 or it's naming equivalent(name hasn't been set in stone yet), will be based on GK104. You heard it right, they want to fight AMD high-end only with the GK104 chip. But don't worry, bigger things are still coming.
This means, that the card, that comes in April will be lower clocked, we're talking 900-950MHz, performance between 7950 and 7970 and will be after all priced at $299.
The last bit of info reveals answer to Eyefinity, which should not surprise anyone.
what is the source of this?Originally Posted by Vardant
It's not if but when that bothers me in this case.
Pretty disappointed by what I'm hearing. It's Fermi all over again, with even longer delays...
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If vardant is right, this can mean Charlie last article about GK110 who have been just only tapped out can be right too. and you will not see it before Q3, end of Q3. ( Gk100 abandonned ? ). ( ofc i will wait real official infos, i cant say i trust anyone today )
The problem i see there is about performance of GK104, I really doubt Nvidia will price it 300$ if the card was enough for fight with 7950 ( in cherrypicked res, game, settings ).. Yes in some games the 7970 is just upper of the 580 (and popular games, i think to BF3 or Dirt ), in some it goes too a lot better, if AMD can pull some performance gain out of a driver in thoses games.. it will start to be really hard for Nvidia, if they dont have the high end.
I dont know why, perf of a bieffed GK104 around the 580 can looks right, so let say more or less 7950 performance ( 7950 is a bit faster, and i dont even speak about OC models, but it is not important yet )... this will put a point to this price: 7970-500$, 7950-400$, GK104-300$ ?
Thoses are performance card, and price dont have to be at 450+ , but if the GK104 is really between 7950-7970, they will fight in price with the 7950.. so 350-375-400$ .. If the point is they dont have an high end card yet, the 300$ can be too a solution, for win on "price for perf ", (and we know thoses middle range cards sell the more ).. or give a better light on this card. But i dont see a card with a so low price, between 7950 and 7970..
We cant say Nvidia have been an angel when it come to pricing his cards so, even more if they have not high end for sell, why dont put it close of the 7950price, and play the price war if needed.
About naming scheme, ( something who make me really doubt about this type of info ), marketing wise it will be completely nuts to call it GTX680, whatever is the performance, if it dont end faster, and high end should coming then, call it 6600TI and play the wait game for high end.
(again i respond to the vardant post, i dont say i trust any info yet, i mean: this + charlie post is a little bit too much suspect when they come at the same time, could be just noise. )
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More likely it's somewhere around GTX580 or 7950 and priced close to 400$. If GTX 580 is really EOL like some claim, GK104 is the only thing that can replace it. Hoping for 7970 performance and 300$ price is absurd, that's simply not the way the market works, even 4800 wasn't that good of a deal. Of course if the performance is only close to 580 it might end up with a 300$ price tag if we're lucky. I think Nvidia have a good spot between 7870 and 7950 if the estimations about 7870 price and perf are true. They could price GK104 between 300-400 and AMD would have no rival there.
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How can it be delayed when there has been nothing on nvidia on when it is to be released? Hell we don't even know what Kepler is.
Who cares about the wording. It is late. Late to the market, late to beat the competition. It's been 15 months since GTX 580 release, and it's going to be 20 months in Q3.
Also, Nvidia isn't known for great price-performance. While GK104 may compete with 7950, it will be quite expensive if so, with GTX 580 also staying expensive (their high-end...), 7950/70 staying expensive, and 7990 being insanely expensive. And this may last till Q3 thanks to Nvidia...
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Even if they where releasing the new cards today it would not greatly affect pricing, if they are faster they will be more expensive than the competing products on the high end. All we would have is expensive flagship cards from both camps without a price war, at the high end they simply don't do price wars there.
Midrange is another story, probably anything from $150-$200 is going to be the meat and potatoes of the lineup and where the line in the sand is drawn.
EDIT: If anything AMD has finally given Nvidia the market pricing ranges they would prefer to be in at the high end again, Nvidia will simply follow suit in pushing the price ceiling back up where it was in the g80 days.
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The majority of their marketshare doesn't care about $500 cards. AMD hasn't effected the sweet spot price on any current gen card. They released a nice enthusiast card for multi-monitor users but this isn't like last gen. Nvidia is competing just fine with ever card in there lineup but GTX580.Who cares about the wording. It is late. Late to the market, late to beat the competition. It's been 15 months since GTX 580 release, and it's going to be 20 months in Q3.
Also, Nvidia isn't known for great price-performance. While GK104 may compete with 7950, it will be quite expensive if so, with GTX 580 also staying expensive (their high-end...), 7950/70 staying expensive, and 7990 being insanely expensive. And this may last till Q3 thanks to Nvidia...
That would be nice!
That performance level with that price is really great news, but if the performance is really between 7950 and 7970 then it's almost a GTX 580, right?
Will NVIDIA kill its current flagship card without releasing her big dog?
Though I really doubt they're going to price it at 299 bucks.
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