Kepler Nvidia GeForce GTX 780

[Tim]

I wish that's all true, really do. Mainstream performance Kepler card easily beating a Radeon 7970, I just find it hard to believe. Possible, but Kepler would be ground breaking.

[SKYMTL]

OBR's posts would be sad if they weren't so hilarious due to his failure with the English language.

In English we call people like him attention wh0res.

[Nightstar]

I just wanted to add that not only are you 100% right, but that this has happened since I can remember when any new GPU or CPU comes out... people hype it up and lower the price and are disappointed. the one launch that I can remember that was not seen as a let down was the G80 one (and a few before it's time as well). considering we have NO IDEA how fast it would be and there was close to no information on it until it came out and destroyed all of the DX9 cards. everything since then has been hyped beyond reason.

Lets hope Kepler actually lives up to whatever hype is generated. Aside from the G80 as far as I call the only cards that ever managed this were the 3dfx Vodoo cards followed by the Geforce256 and the Radion 9700. It's not so easy to do now that $200 buys a card that will deliver around 60fps 1920x1080 on whatever console port is popular.

[aussie-revhead]

Is it possible that it's all just Nvidia propaganda to slow AMD sales? Surely if it is and Kepler fails to impress then it's all going to come back and bite them .....

[Dimitriman]

OBR got linked yet again in this forum and others, +1 more victory for him.

[Handrox]

http://semiaccurate.com/forums/showp...&postcount=374

http://www.semiaccurate.com/forums/s...&postcount=378

[tdream]

http://semiaccurate.com/forums/showp...&postcount=374

http://www.semiaccurate.com/forums/s...&postcount=378

What I find completely hilarious is Charlie's complete 180 on his usual position with nvidia with nary an explanation as to why. Now he's quoting what ranks as good journalism and accuracy from his own site called semi-accurate, ironic no? Is anyone going to hold a gun to his head when he posts drivel? Don't think so, because he can just point to the website name. He doubts nvidia's underhanded tactics of hiring internet goons to post postive reports about nvidia. This is entirely not new and begun when AMD/ATI made cards that kicked the crap out of nvidia's offerings, which were either late and or not powerful enough or both. Now we're kind of seeing the same thing again except the only difference is that the news is coming from the former anti-nvidia crusader.

Whatever the case, it certainly generates clicks. And we will know exactly what is going on when everything plays itself out in the coming year. We will finally know if Charlie is the truth bringer or just another sucker would can be bought out. You can only buy reputation once, after that it isn't worth anything.

[=SOC= Admiral]

Already proven fake. Different fonts. Different sizes.
Made 28th week of 2012???

Another point to it, wasnt Nvidia trying to do away with hot clocks in this arch? If so why is the Shader clock higher than the GPU core clock?


Either way this Release turns out for Nvidia Im going to buy the Nvidia product because of drivers. I dont like the AMD drivers and they have been lacking in quality over the last year or two.

[AliG]

I want to say that was just a rumor, we have no evidence of it being true

[NEOAethyr]

Still waiting on these, I'm hoping to see one that can outperform my gtx 460se with lower wattage drawn .
... Trying to keep my pc under 150w's.

[Lanek]

http://news.techeye.net/chips/nvidia...-perturbations

Dont shoot the messenger, just fall on this article, and share... Even if i have a lot of doubt about it.

[Tim]

trying to buff up Kepler by bringing Ageia to the hardware.

They've got CUDA, why on earth would they put outdated AGEIA hardware in Kepler. Sounds like FUD to expose moles. Bazinga.

[TurboDiv]

One industry watcher said to TechEye the company is in "holy s**t" mode - having been confident that the GK104 would fight off and trounce the competition, but the timing is out of whack.

Sounds good. I like rumours like this. Just try not to invest too much stock into them cuz it sucks when they disappoint !


....HOLY S**T mode engaged !!! Good for them !

[jam2k]

Charlie: Physics hardware makes Kepler/GK104 fast

[Manicdan]

charlie is saying something quite interesting.

usually people think of ATI cards as being great in some and really bad in others, while nvidia are just good in all.
but he believes the tables are turned and that the card will basically suck in any game they didnt have their devs help code

however i wonder if the games that do run great will also generate a lot of heat and push the cards to their limit (like running furmark on a 4800/5800 and hurting them). too much efficiency can push a gpu out of its thermal specs.

[jam2k]

PhysX enabled games faster on nV hardware ?

I'm sorry but that's 5 year old news ...

[Manicdan]

what titles use hardware physics thats not phsyx right now?

[phantomferrari]

charlie is saying something quite interesting.

usually people think of ATI cards as being great in some and really bad in others, while nvidia are just good in all.
but he believes the tables are turned and that the card will basically suck in any game they didnt have their devs help code

however i wonder if the games that do run great will also generate a lot of heat and push the cards to their limit (like running furmark on a 4800/5800 and hurting them). too much efficiency can push a gpu out of its thermal specs.

another thing i found interesting is that this card doesnt seem to be the great 7900 series killer some made it out to be. alot of people were wondering how a $300 card could compete with a $450-$550 card and now it seems to that this card was never meant to compete with the 7900 series. it also interesting that it can hold its own against the 7900 series in some benchmarks when its probably going to be marketed to compete against the 7800 series gpu's.

hopefully sometime early this summer the gk100 will show and we can finally see how the single high end gpus stack up against each other.

[Lanek]

I launch a poll: 2012? year of marketing ? ...

If all this is true, it is really sad, Games was made for use the GPU's power, not for limit it in some part and accelerate it on other ( and sadly we have see this too much allready in 2011, crysis2, HawX, Batman, Starcraft, Anno ( for AMD).. )

I hope the market will come back to a certain normality, we dont need games for sell gpu's, but games for play them... I dont want to see a war between Gaming evolved ( AMD ), and TWIMP games, we will be the clear loosers on this.

Its clear, this is an abundant source of money for games producers ( and help ), who have allready to deal with a lot bank for produce a game. ( an average game, cost nearly 2x what Avatar have cost )

[cold2010]

Charlie: Physics hardware makes Kepler/GK104 fast

obr Says

Semiaccurace is absolutely wrong about Kepler ...

Charlie Demerjian knows nothing about Kepler, just speculating. In essence, copied the information from my blog. I first talked about the problems with PCIe 3.0. I talked about the new PhysX feature, a small core with low power consumption. But the truth is different, the source from which he drew (MSI) (the same as my is faked by Nvidia itself). Kepler has no PhysX block, and its performance is great against Tahiti everywhere - not in games from RG, the performance is still true what I said long ago, an absolute 7970 killer ...

PS. This is last Kepler info here till some chinese real leaks, with spec ... but i can tell you, REAL specs are floating web ... but you have to find them ...

[Lanek]

Lol, does OBR remain serious ? this guy should have 2 bodies for wear a so big head.

How can he have any idea of the Kepler performance ( he speak about it since 2 month now ), if the A1 silicon was bugged, and the A2 sillicon have been out of TSMC less of 4 days, 1 week ago?

[TurboDiv]

In my opinion, Nvidia would have released their "paper lunch" of the Kepler if they thought it would destroy 7970... Usually, paper lunch makes fan boys wait for the card... This time around either their marketing department was asleep or they just don't have the horse power ???????? I SERIOUSLY WANT KEPLER TO beat the hell out of 7970 so that i can replace my GTX 580 with a worthy architecture... THis 7970 is like a half boner for me, i want it but its not giving me the full pleasure.

[Lanek]

In my opinion, Nvidia would have released their "paper lunch" of the Kepler if they thought it would destroy 7970... Usually, paper lunch makes fan boys wait for the card... This time around either their marketing department was asleep or they just don't have the horse power ???????? I SERIOUSLY WANT KEPLER TO beat the hell out of 7970 so that i can replace my GTX 580 with a worthy architecture... THis 7970 is like a half boner for me, i want it but its not giving me the full pleasure.

For sure there's a lot of thing unclear: why bring us on the table words about GK104, the midrange, why not speak about the real kepler, the high end? If kepler have some revolutionnary thing in it, why Nvidia dont push them in hardware tech conference, computing conference? Computing and professional gpu's are a big part of Nvidia market ( Tesla, Quadro etc ).
AMD has no problem to show us GCN 7 months ago, in June 2011.. We was nearly know all of the architecture, even code generated by it was shown, we was know it will pack 30-32CU.. etc etc. Each parts was explained...

[Kristoferr]

Thats because there is no 7970 killer incoming. Its all just fairy tale created by nvidiots. There is no official info whatsoever. That should tell you something.

[Vardant]

No official info tells you exactly that, no official info, nothing more or nothing less.

If NV released some sort of sneak peak, you would discount the results as cherry picked. If they paper launched, rumors of magical driver or higher clocked BIOS update would surface in a matter of minutes...

By now, both companies probably learned, there is just no pleasing some of the people.