ASUS Official X79 Motherboards Support Thread

[andressergio]

Ty sir. btw your pm box is full so I couldnt respond to ur pm!

jeeze ok i emptied it

thanks !

[JohnMike]

Hi everyone...

Wanna ask:

Has anyone encounter issues with sleep, specifically waking up from sleep to discover their system halts with their Rampage IV Extreme?

I don't fold@home, so therefore to save time the next day, I tend to sleep the system during the night; usually the next morning I discover my system won't wake properly. RIVE debug status seems to get stuck in "30" - can see windows login screen, mouse pointer movable but no overall response - even after 30mins

Cheers

+1 .... Only my board is a Rampage IV Formula. Asked for help a few posts above, but no one anwser.

[UltraNEO*]

+1 .... Only my board is a Rampage IV Formula. Asked for help a few posts above, but no one anwser.

Hmmm... I get the impressions most folks on here don't use their systems, only clock them for fun...

[wazoo99]

I Raja clearing CMOS results in a black screen. The motherboard does not recover. I could not install windows because it said windows will not install on a partitioned drive or something like that. This is odd because I was able to install windows on the gigabyte board fine on the same drive but I cannot now install it with this asus board. Should I return this board and ssd? I would get the rampage 4 instead.im so tired and frustrated at this pOint of x79. I just want it to work. Thank you for your help and advice.

If you try to install Win 7 to an MBR mode HDD/SSD with the Win 7 DVD in GPT mode (UEFI) or vice versa you will get the error message. First thing is dont even think about installing an O/S on a new X79 mobo without killdisking a HDD or secure erase an SSD. If you do not want GPT install, pick non UEFI noted DVD option at F8 boot. Anytime you insert Win 7 X64 in a DVD two modes of the DVD drive will appear.

Backflash ship bios and start again

[mdzcpa]

Hi everyone...

Wanna ask:

Has anyone encounter issues with sleep, specifically waking up from sleep to discover their system halts with their Rampage IV Extreme?

I don't fold@home, so therefore to save time the next day, I tend to sleep the system during the night; usually the next morning I discover my system won't wake properly. RIVE debug status seems to get stuck in "30" - can see windows login screen, mouse pointer movable but no overall response - even after 30mins

Cheers

+1 .... Only my board is a Rampage IV Formula. Asked for help a few posts above, but no one anwser.

Hmmm... I get the impressions most folks on here don't use their systems, only clock them for fun...

Nice attitude and a great way to get help

Since you posted asking if "anyone encountered issues" it very well may be that many haven't. Case in point my sleep works fine, even clocked up at 5Ghz. Are you overclocked? What BIOS settings? Some system specs?

[UltraNEO*]

Nice attitude and a great way to get help

Since you posted asking if "anyone encountered issues" it very well may be that many haven't. Case in point my sleep works fine, even clocked up at 5Ghz. Are you overclocked? What BIOS settings? Some system specs?

Hey thanks for the reply
Don't worry about it. I've worked it out...

*face palm*

[wazoo99]

this has been around since Jan 11 with the P67
Like the USB 3 not detecting
Like the DVD not usable during install of Win 7
Like the SSD drives not detecting or random detecting
Like the monitor going to sleep and never waking again on any movement
@getyasome has been modding P67 Z68 bios with 11.0.xxxx 11.5.0.xxxx oproms
He is all over the forums like the VIP ASUS
Solves all probs, and I have asked him to see if he can mod the X79 bios.
Supposedly the Z77 mobo have the 11 - 11.6 bios oroms
I dont see how he can mod the 3.0.0.XXXX RSTe bios oroms snce they are the enterprise version of Intel RST - RSTe. Another guy says the 11.5 RST may be embedded in the larger Intel RSTe 3 series with SAS option

So, we shall see

[mdzcpa]

Hey thanks for the reply
Don't worry about it. I've worked it out...

*face palm*

Good news. Would you care to share how you worked it out in case anyone else does come here looking for similar answers?

I saw your post, and a few others on the ROG site. It seems most folks with sleep issues are also experiencing other general stability issues as well. Many memory related. I do know that if the system is not completely stable, sleep can get pretty wonky. Many on the ROG thread need to stabilize thier system first and then see if sleep issues go away.

[Khaotic]

I'm in the process of building a new rig with the X79 Sabertooth motherboard. I don't have my CPU yet, but it looks like I'll be going with a 3960X.
I do intend to overclock, but will probably go very conservative. Somewhere around 4.0 - 4.2 - hopefully something that doesn't need a lot of voltage hikes.
Either way, I want to enusre 24/7 staibilty and I understand the VRMs on this board need a little help. Aside from getting a fan to help circulation.

My question is: (Keeping 24/7 stability in mind)

Is it better to look for memory that can operate with 1.5 volts or would the 1.65v memory not make that much of a difference?

I'd like to get some DDR3-1866 or even DDR3-2100 and notice that there are kits available in each that use 1.5v but are not on the QVL list for the motherboard....

[JohnMike]

Good news. Would you care to share how you worked it out in case anyone else does come here looking for similar answers?

I saw your post, and a few others on the ROG site. It seems most folks with sleep issues are also experiencing other general stability issues as well. Many memory related. I do know that if the system is not completely stable, sleep can get pretty wonky. Many on the ROG thread need to stabilize thier system first and then see if sleep issues go away.

My system is at default.... and still i have sleep issues, system refuses to go sleep mode... always rebooting, i dont get it and dont understand why no one cares or help

[DualCpuUser]

For conservative overclock? I would still hardly reccomend this board. The VRM VCore temp is a PITA to keep cool, even with a 80CFM 120 on it. Might be bad build of this board and the thermal tape is not on there very well... That is possible.

Now the TurboV EVO, only shows the CPU VCore voltage under load, you don't see the other adj. values. What is my VccSA or VTT under load? You can't monitor that while testing your over clocks to see just how much VDroop is occuring. I think I have seen RP4E TurboV screen shots show them all. There shouldn't be disconnect in TurboV functions or display if the hardware is there to report it.

I am running CPU FAH V7 Beta, pegs the CPU @ 100; I've lowered the Multiplier to 'auto' and for my 3930k, it autos at 38x My temps on the VCore VRM after 15 mins is: 67c. This is not bad under 100% load, but also its only running at 3.8Ghz

I'm in the process of building a new rig with the X79 Sabertooth motherboard. I don't have my CPU yet, but it looks like I'll be going with a 3960X.
I do intend to overclock, but will probably go very conservative. Somewhere around 4.0 - 4.2 - hopefully something that doesn't need a lot of voltage hikes.
Either way, I want to enusre 24/7 staibilty and I understand the VRMs on this board need a little help. Aside from getting a fan to help circulation.

My question is: (Keeping 24/7 stability in mind)

Is it better to look for memory that can operate with 1.5 volts or would the 1.65v memory not much that much of a difference?

I'd like to get some DDR3-1866 or even DDR3-2100 and notice that there are kits available in each that use 1.5v but are not on the QVL list for the motherboard....

[mdzcpa]

I tried the Sabertooth for my son's build, and the board will work fine for modest overclocks. 4.0-4.2 will be very easy to do. I'm guessing 1.3v or lower can get you there. The VRMs do run hot, but they run hot on ALL the X79 mobos. As long as you keep your LLC set to Medium, which is fine for most mainstream overclocking, your fine. If you push your voltage nearer to 1.4v and your CPU closer to 4.5ghz+, some additional cooling is needed. I wouldn't go out of your way to find memory at 1.5v versus 1.65v. Both are fine. Get the specs you want, that's most important. 1.65v won't add any significant heat.

I'm in the process of building a new rig with the X79 Sabertooth motherboard. I don't have my CPU yet, but it looks like I'll be going with a 3960X.
I do intend to overclock, but will probably go very conservative. Somewhere around 4.0 - 4.2 - hopefully something that doesn't need a lot of voltage hikes.
Either way, I want to enusre 24/7 staibilty and I understand the VRMs on this board need a little help. Aside from getting a fan to help circulation.

My question is: (Keeping 24/7 stability in mind)

Is it better to look for memory that can operate with 1.5 volts or would the 1.65v memory not make that much of a difference?

I'd like to get some DDR3-1866 or even DDR3-2100 and notice that there are kits available in each that use 1.5v but are not on the QVL list for the motherboard....

[mdzcpa]

My system is at default.... and still i have sleep issues, system refuses to go sleep mode... always rebooting, i dont get it and dont understand why no one cares or help

Is your system, even at default, otherwise 100% stable? Will run stable under load...gaming...LinX...etc?
Have you double checked your power settings in Windows?

[mdzcpa]

I am running CPU FAH V7 Beta, pegs the CPU @ 100; I've lowered the Multiplier to 'auto' and for my 3930k, it autos at 38x My temps on the VCore VRM after 15 mins is: 67c. This is not bad under 100% load, but also its only running at 3.8Ghz

If your VRMs are staying under 80c, I wouldn't sweat it. VRMs typically do run awefully hot. Heck, my X58 mobo routinely saw 65c actively cooled. Just food for thought.

[DualCpuUser]

That wasn't the point, it hits > 80 quite often, but not at these multipliers and 100% load.

[mdzcpa]

That wasn't the point, it hits > 80 quite often, but not at these multipliers and 100% load.

Whatever. My son's rig was running at 4.4 24/7 and the VRM maxxed out at 72c and was totally stable. We didn't lose any sleep over it. He's currently on the P9X79 Deluxe now as he wanted the enhanced features. I'm sure he VRM runs just as hot as well

[UltraNEO*]

Good news. Would you care to share how you worked it out in case anyone else does come here looking for similar answers?

I saw your post, and a few others on the ROG site. It seems most folks with sleep issues are also experiencing other general stability issues as well. Many memory related. I do know that if the system is not completely stable, sleep can get pretty wonky. Many on the ROG thread need to stabilize thier system first and then see if sleep issues go away.

Yeah.. There are a great many people on the ROG site whom really need to learn how to debug their hardware problems before blaming the motherboard/bios for hardware problems which are more user related.


As for me...
During my build the only issue I really encountered was due to an hardware glitch on one of my gpu's. Having access to a second card and another system does help alot to narrowing down faults. Since all my hardware was purchased overseas, returning them to the store was an impossibility and gaining RMA here in the UK looked bleak - took loads of effort!! Eventually we came to some agreement to have the card swapped... probably because Gigabyte UK exhausted all it's repair options, them fookers also blamed my Asus!! That's just being bias methinks. Four weeks on, several occasions this cards been back and forth for repair and still it remained unstable on my system (yet the other gpu worked fine)...

During it's uptime, my system didn't have any stability concerns, I'm very confident that mines pretty solid!! Since December 1st, I've clocked her up and over 4.6 (air cooled using an HR02 & AP15), subjected her to various tests including super pi, memtests, AIDA64 extreme overnight (great for keeping my room warm)... added the recently replaced card in SLI, re run all the tests.. and i'm pretty satisfied. Infact, I believe 5Ghz and above is possible with the appropriate cooling (something I'm working on at the moment).

Coming from a workstation, I never planned on sleeping my machine... allowing it to burn the midnight oil like there's no end in sight. Everything we just honky dory till i tried sleep! OMG, that one experienced led to one huge annoyance!! I felt the urge to find a cure!!

My system had serious insomnia. Asking windows to sleep was a definite no no; they're more short brief naps where everything appears to enters a low-powered state, seconds later followed by a power up then a full on system crash!!! Depressing the reset button resulted in no effects what-so-ever!!

Finding out what is preventing the system from sleep was the key...

Solution:
From command prompt type

powercfg -requests

to check what device and driver are preventing it to enter S1/S3.



You should get ideally get 'none' or windows will tell you what device.
Disable that device that is preventing it to enter S1/S3.

powercfg -availablesleepstates

You should get S1/S3. Otherwise, make sure you didn't disable it in Windows or in motherboard BIOS.


Wake on LAN
On older systems those WoL features were controlled in the BIOS. However to due to advancement and user convince they've all been moved into the operating system, accessible via the Control Panel.

Go to Network and Sharing Center 
(Control Panel > Network and Sharing Center > Change Adapter Settings);

Right-click your Local Area Network adapter, choose Properties;

Click on Configure;

Go to the Power Management tab and disable everything under 'Wake on LAN' (unless you need it)

Resuming from sleep:
Yup.. Answer was starting me in the face all along. LOL I just never twigged to think: oh "HLT", my system needs to know it's gonna resume!!!

[JohnMike]

Wake on LAN
On older systems those WoL features were controlled in the BIOS. However to due to advancement and user convince they've all been moved into the operating system, accessible via the Control Panel.

Go to Network and Sharing Center 
(Control Panel > Network and Sharing Center > Change Adapter Settings);

Right-click your Local Area Network adapter, choose Properties;

Click on Configure;

Go to the Power Management tab and disable everything under 'Wake on LAN' (unless you need it)

Thank's for your advise... I had those Power Management on lan enabled. I will test later is this solved my sleep issues.

Is your system, even at default, otherwise 100% stable? Will run stable under load...gaming...LinX...etc?
Have you double checked your power settings in Windows?

@idle seems fine and stable, same with BF3 playing a few hours, but i will test it later with linX.
But i did chek my voltagens with AIDA64 after receving a strange alert from Asus Ai Suit regarding voltage on -5v read:


Sensor Properties
Sensor Type Nuvoton NCT6776F (ISA 290h)
GPU Sensor Type Diode, CHiL CHL8266 (NV-Diode, 46h)
Chassis Intrusion Detected No

Temperatures
Motherboard 29 °C (84 °F)
CPU 49 °C (120 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 28 °C (82 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 29 °C (84 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #3 28 °C (82 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #4 28 °C (82 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #5 32 °C (90 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #6 31 °C (88 °F)
Aux 32 °C (90 °F)
GPU Diode 28 °C (82 °F)
ATA G.SKILL FALCON 1 25 °C (77 °F)
ATA SAMSUNG SSD 830 25 °C (77 °F)
ATA WDC WD1001FALS-0 25 °C (77 °F)

Cooling Fans
Chassis 4383 RPM
Power Supply 3846 RPM
GPU 40%

Voltage Values
CPU Core 0.800 V
Aux 2.016 V
+3.3 V 3.344 V
+5 V 5.591 V
+12 V 7.539 V
-5 V -2.082 V
+5 V Standby 5.139 V
VBAT Battery 3.328 V
GPU Core 0.913 V
GPU +12V 12.047 V
GPU VRM 0.906 V

Current Values
GPU VRM 9.50 A

Power Values
CPU Package 19.61 W
CPU IA Cores 3.35 W
GPU VRM 8.50 W
Debug Info F 164 4455 3879 164 164
Debug Info T 29 52 32 / 255 24
Debug Info V 63 7E D1 D0 7C FF 6F (03)
Debug Info I C1 C333

------[ Motherboard Info ]------

Motherboard ID : 63-0100-000001-00101111-102010-Chipset$1APEQ006_BIOS DATE: 12/22/11 15:12:21 VER: 10.05
Motherboard Model : Unknown

DMI MB Manufacturer : ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.
DMI MB Product : RAMPAGE IV FORMULA
DMI MB Version : Rev 1.xx
DMI MB Serial : 112429460000003
DMI SYS Manufacturer: System manufacturer
DMI SYS Product : System Product Name
DMI SYS Version : System Version
DMI SYS Serial : System Serial Number
DMI BIOS Version : 1005



------[ Asus ATKEX ]------

CPU : 23.0 C
MotherBoard: 29.0 C
OPT1 : 0.0 C
OPT2 : 0.0 C
OPT3 : 0.0 C
PCH : 38.0 C
CHA Fan 1 : 0 RPM
CHA Fan 2 : 0 RPM
CHA Fan 3 : 0 RPM
CPU Fan : 4397 RPM
CPU OPT Fan: 3846 RPM
OPT Fan 1 : 0 RPM
OPT Fan 2 : 0 RPM
OPT Fan 3 : 0 RPM
+12V : 12.096 V
+3.3V : 3.328 V
+5V : 4.960 V
2nd VTTCPU : 1.043 V
CPU PLL : 1.787 V
CPU VCCSA : 1.168 V
DRAM AB : 1.659 V
DRAM CD : 1.668 V
PCH 1.1 : 1.100 V
PCH 1.5 : 1.500 V
Vcore : 0.800 V
VTT CPU : 1.143 V

[Raja@ASUS]

Don't use more than one volt/temp monitoring tool at once, it will cause misreads.

[mdzcpa]

Great information UltraNEO. Thanks for taking the time posting all that. I'm sure that will help a bunch of folks with sleep issues that have adjusted thier C-states.

JohnMike, post back when you get your WoL settings and C-States adjusted per Ultra's post. See if your cured.

[JohnMike]

Don't use more than one volt/temp monitoring tool at once, it will cause misreads.

I never do... But a couple weeks ago, sometimes on desktop after a start or reboot i get an Ai Suite alert (pop up) regardind my voltagens. I dont know where's the source of that alert, so i opened AIDA64 to see my voltages reads and then notice the -5V read (-5 V -2.082 V)... Is this value right?!

JohnMike, post back when you get your WoL settings and C-States adjusted per Ultra's post. See if your cured.

I will test it later this evening and post my feedback.

[UltraNEO*]

Thank's for your advise... I had those Power Management on lan enabled. I will test later is this solved my sleep issues.

@idle seems fine and stable, same with BF3 playing a few hours, but i will test it later with linX.
But i did chek my voltagens with AIDA64 after receving a strange alert from Asus Ai Suit regarding voltage on -5v read:

I keep getting random voltage warnings too, yet the system is stable
So for now I'm just ignoring them, I'm sure if it's serious enough windows would crash or throw up some random BSOD!!

[Raja@ASUS]

I never do... But a couple weeks ago, sometimes on desktop after a start or reboot i get an Ai Suite alert (pop up) regardind my voltagens. I dont know where's the source of that alert, so i opened AIDA64 to see my voltages reads and then notice the -5V read (-5 V -2.082 V)... Is this value right?!


I will test it later this evening and post my feedback.

If you had Ai Suite running in the background at the same time as AIDA there's your answer. The value is not correct. When more than one software tool polls the super IO chip, the end result is a mis-read voltage.

[UltraNEO*]

If you had Ai Suite running in the background at the same time as AIDA there's your answer. The value is not correct. When more than one software tool polls the super IO chip, the end result is a mis-read voltage.

Hey Raja@ASUS, does this apply to temp readings too? I find AIDA gives more accurate...

[Eldonko]

Yeah be careful with LLC, especially at higher voltages.



Full analysis

I tried the Sabertooth for my son's build, and the board will work fine for modest overclocks. 4.0-4.2 will be very easy to do. I'm guessing 1.3v or lower can get you there. The VRMs do run hot, but they run hot on ALL the X79 mobos. As long as you keep your LLC set to Medium, which is fine for most mainstream overclocking, your fine. If you push your voltage nearer to 1.4v and your CPU closer to 4.5ghz+, some additional cooling is needed. I wouldn't go out of your way to find memory at 1.5v versus 1.65v. Both are fine. Get the specs you want, that's most important. 1.65v won't add any significant heat.