Projects ending

[OldChap]

Have spent a little time looking around over at WCG forums and I came across this chart



Which is suggesting that for HCC and for HCMD there may be just a few weeks left for getting badges. HOWEVER I am not entirely clear if this is showiing the number of days until a Waypoint or to the end of a phase.

Any of you with more knowledge than me throw some light on this?

EDIT added from post 7: There are a bunch of interesting charts and things to look at when you go to https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.or...d?thread=18277

FURTHER EDIT: I notice this chart is updating as is... I guess the guy is just updating the same image

[D_A]

As I understand it, that's right. 44 days left till HCC runs out of work (not counting reissue etc). The project itself is due to drop a GPU beta very soon, but the current project as it stands will dry up in about the time shown.

Or not. Stuff does happen after all.

[retro77]

Interesting. Thank you for posting the chart.

[Otis11]

Iirc, that's how many days of work are left in the queue... if the project scientists submit more work then that number will go up, but counting that out, we've got a month left!!!

I've got my goal on HCMD so 100% HCC till it's done!

[D_A]

I'm planning on helping them finish with a BANG as well.

[josh1980]

That chart is very cool! Too bad they don't post that chart regularly. I'd love to see that chart updated every week. Then I can "see" what is going on with the projects and watch the countdown.

[OldChap]

To get this and much more info visit;

http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/fo...d?thread=18277

Chart updates are as and when, some daily, some weekly, some with longer intervals, depending on the frequency of the depicted data or event driven such as milestones, anniversaries, records.

[disturbed13]

im sad to say it but if the work queue dries up for HCC then im done with WCG
im only here to kill cancer that took my mother
if that stops then so do i, and turn my current crunchers into SETI boxes
thats the next most interesting thing to me
sorry guys
but ill still stop in and say hi

thats if HCC stops

[dave_graham]

distrurbed,

I thought SETI died out with 0 funding?

d

[disturbed13]

distrurbed,

I thought SETI died out with 0 funding?

d

i was under that impression as well
for a while i wasnt getting any WUs
but now i am again
so yeah
its a hit or miss kinda thing i guess

[shoota]

Wait SETI.. that's the alien thing right..

[disturbed13]

yeah
the search for ET intelligence

[shoota]

Please don't be offended because I'm seriously curious. Why do you find this important?

[bluestang]

im sad to say it but if the work queue dries up for HCC then im done with WCG
im only here to kill cancer that took my mother
if that stops then so do i, and turn my current crunchers into SETI boxes
thats the next most interesting thing to me
sorry guys
but ill still stop in and say hi

thats if HCC stops

Can always switch to HFCC...still for cancer, just childhood.

[OldChap]

I'm afraid to say that, for this phase at least, both are near completion, a month for one and two months for the other. I feel sure that there will be another phase released for each... the question is when.

[D_A]

The HCC project will be releasing a GPU client sometime "early" this year ( "early 2012" is the official information), though I haven't been watching the news on the HFCC project as closely.
I originally started crunching SETI back in '99, though I moved on to biomedical research not too long afterwards once I discovered it was available.

[josh1980]

Childhood cancer is very interesting to me. Naturally, developing cancer at a young age when a child's DNA hasn't been exposed to quantities of carcinogens such as what an adult has experienced in their lifetime in my opinion, is interesting. I'd love to know more about it, but that darn thing called "life" keeps getting in the way.

I have alot of friends that are into SETI. Not sure of it's status, but it seems to be one that almost everyone has heard of. Anyway, I don't crunch SETI because I'm not sure what the value in it would be. Even if we received a signal(which wouldn't be in english) and understood it(which again isn't likely), what value would that add to our society besides the fact that we have proven we are not alone? They are likely to be so far away any signal we send would take decades to get there(assuming they are even listening for us). In my opinion it's one of those things that's "cool" but if you stop and thin about what value it would add I find myself fighting to draw together a good list that would affect my family, me, etc. We do not have the technology to build a ship and go visit or anything.

But please don't let my opinion discourage you from SETI or any other grid computing project.

[D_A]

If by "decades" you mean "millennia", then yeah. Any signal that we pick up from anything over a thousand light years away is almost irrelevant, since that civilization will have either already destroyed itself or advanced to the point where they're likely to either avoid us completely as "savages" or planet-rape us for our resources if we try to make contact.

I initially started with them because of the promise they made that anyone finding part of a validated signal would get their name on the Nobel prize. These days I don't see that the whole "not/alone in the universe" thing is a big deal either way in that it won't make any difference to me personally. Curing cancer, Malaria, HIV etc ... those could matter to me personally. Other people's mileage may vary, that's just how I feel about it.

[BlindFreddie]

The WCG Supplemental Performance Charts on WCG were created & are maintained by "Community Advisor" (CA) SekeRob, who is a volunteer just like you and me. He just about lives on wcg.org, answering questions when he's not updating the charts. Give him a "break" and lots of thanks.

The data presented are only what he knows - some info is publically available elsewhere, and some probably comes from the periodic chat sessions that the CAs have with WGC staff. The project end dates are not written in stone - the scientists may pull out for various reasons, eg because interim results indicate that the project is going nowhere, researchers move on (AC@H perhaps?), funding stops, ... Or they may decide to extend the research, eg HFCC was due to end months ago, but they decided to dock against another target protein. And some info may be held back by WCG, for whatever reason.

Since HCC is planning to launch a beta for a GPU version while the CPU version continues, I'd say it's highly probable that HCC end date will be extended for quite a while. OTOH, HFCC may finish soon - or they may decide to dock against more targets.

[OT] Agree with D_A re. SETI [/OT]

[disturbed13]

Please don't be offended because I'm seriously curious. Why do you find this important?

ive love astronomy since childhood
i can still remember when my mom bought me my first telescope
its one of the best memories of my childhood, and of her before she passed on. which is why i crunch HCC
it would be just nice to know if there is something else out there
now i do disagree with the thought that we should make contact with them, i agree with Hawkings
it would be like when the europians came over to the Mayan/Aztec people

Childhood cancer is very interesting to me. Naturally, developing cancer at a young age when a child's DNA hasn't been exposed to quantities of carcinogens such as what an adult has experienced in their lifetime in my opinion, is interesting. I'd love to know more about it, but that darn thing called "life" keeps getting in the way.

I have alot of friends that are into SETI. Not sure of it's status, but it seems to be one that almost everyone has heard of. Anyway, I don't crunch SETI because I'm not sure what the value in it would be. Even if we received a signal(which wouldn't be in english) and understood it(which again isn't likely), what value would that add to our society besides the fact that we have proven we are not alone? They are likely to be so far away any signal we send would take decades to get there(assuming they are even listening for us). In my opinion it's one of those things that's "cool" but if you stop and thin about what value it would add I find myself fighting to draw together a good list that would affect my family, me, etc. We do not have the technology to build a ship and go visit or anything.

But please don't let my opinion discourage you from SETI or any other grid computing project.

thats a very good point, and a nice opinion
lets say you woke up in a house you are unfamiliar with
you get out of the house and you look around
you are in the middle of no-where all that you can see is green rolling hills and a blue sky meeting on the distant horizon
you have no working technology and no knowledge that there is anyone else out there
wouldnt it be nice to know that you are not alone?

If by "decades" you mean "millennia", then yeah. Any signal that we pick up from anything over a thousand light years away is almost irrelevant, since that civilization will have either already destroyed itself or advanced to the point where they're likely to either avoid us completely as "savages" or planet-rape us for our resources if we try to make contact.

I initially started with them because of the promise they made that anyone finding part of a validated signal would get their name on the Nobel prize. These days I don't see that the whole "not/alone in the universe" thing is a big deal either way in that it won't make any difference to me personally. Curing cancer, Malaria, HIV etc ... those could matter to me personally. Other people's mileage may vary, that's just how I feel about it.

again i stand in the pool that says its cool to know that we are not alone
but i dont want them to stop by and say hi
if they did
all of the nut jobs would be validated and going (pardon the french) ape- crazy in the streets
and i would be screaming NUKE EM'!!!!!!! Duke where are you?!

[Otis11]

Oh crap... HFCC is almost done too! Heads up to whoever hasn't completed their goals - HCC/HFCC/HCMD are all low on time

How the crap am I going to get both of those up in a month...?

[Snow Crash]

rumor mill (but quite reliable) says ... HCC will keep going with new targets until the transition to HCC GPU is done.

[[XC] Oj101]

What's your run time for each of those?

[w0en]

Following the threads it appears that the charts calculate down and then hold and mark time at 31 days until the "official" 30 day warning is issued by the WCG techs. There has already been talk of a HCC2 project and the GPU business has been rumored/promised for some time now. There was mention of a parallel test to verify the CPU/GPU was returning valid results but again, all rumors. There IS a lot of speculation flying around the last month or so on all these issues but no official announcement of anything concrete yet.

[Otis11]

rumor mill (but quite reliable) says ... HCC will keep going with new targets until the transition to HCC GPU is done.

Sweet! So this will keep going? Do we know if HCC GPU will be a new project or just continue? Do we really have any details on it?

What's your run time for each of those?

If you want the numbers YGPM

I have my personal goals on each, but I'd have to crank it up quite heavily to do that in the time frame. These snuck up on me... Not that it really matters, it's just a personal goal for projects that matter to me.

Following the threads it appears that the charts calculate down and then hold and mark time at 31 days until the "official" 30 day warning is issued by the WCG techs. There has already been talk of a HCC2 project and the GPU business has been rumored/promised for some time now. There was mention of a parallel test to verify the CPU/GPU was returning valid results but again, all rumors. There IS a lot of speculation flying around the last month or so on all these issues but no official announcement of anything concrete yet.

Sounds good... still makes me wary since I'm a ways from my goal, but at least that means there's some time left!