MaximusIV-Extreme Thread

[andressergio]

My 2500k is LinX stable at 5.0Ghz with 1.43v loaded on bios 1409. I can drop the voltage to 1.41 loaded and while it can't complete 20 loops of LinX, it can heavy game and handle all of my daily use without problems. If I can't be in the club then oh well, my system runs great either way.

its a good BIOS 1409

[angkies]

anyone, who use dominator GTX2 in this board? i have a little bit problem when running freq 2133 8-8-8-24 1T @ 1.65v.. when i test with super pi 32m i got freeze n then restart... i already increase VCCIO to 1.1v-1.2v but nothing help.. can anyone give advice to me? my bios 1409, i have dominator 2000 c8 rev2.1 hyper's too, but the problem is the same.. something wrong with my bios or........ ?

[owikh84]

anyone, who use dominator GTX2 in this board? i have a little bit problem when running freq 2133 8-8-8-24 1T @ 1.65v.. when i test with super pi 32m i got freeze n then restart... i already increase VCCIO to 1.1v-1.2v but nothing help.. can anyone give advice to me? my bios 1409, i have dominator 2000 c8 rev2.1 hyper's too, but the problem is the same.. something wrong with my bios or........ ?

i don't have GTX2 but hypers should be able to do 2133 8-9-8-20-1T @ 1.65v

[angkies]

i don't have GTX2 but hypers should be able to do 2133 8-9-8-20-1T @ 1.65v

i believe my mem can do 2133 8-8-8 @ 1.65v coz i already try on my old board p67 Deluxe

[PiLsY]

1.552 + Linx LOAD = guaranteeed degradation = what u where supposed to avoid Pilsy

Chip is nearly a year old and has done literally months of linx and prime at 1.5v+ while I tweaked all the ram subtimings and still runs the same as day 1. It was terrible from the start - hence I dont really care about the vcore. Who ever heard of needing PLL overvolt to boot at 46x ffs! But yeah staying below 80c in linx and 1.54v load on the Pro using offset has resulted in zero degradation. Probably taken a good few years off the lifespan of the silicone but the cpu will undoubtedly outlast the build anyway.

[Counter CS]

anyone, who use dominator GTX2 in this board? i have a little bit problem when running freq 2133 8-8-8-24 1T @ 1.65v.. when i test with super pi 32m i got freeze n then restart... i already increase VCCIO to 1.1v-1.2v but nothing help.. can anyone give advice to me? my bios 1409, i have dominator 2000 c8 rev2.1 hyper's too, but the problem is the same.. something wrong with my bios or........ ?

I have 2x2GB Dominator GT C8, and just received 2x2GB G-skill Perfect Storm 8-8-8 2133mhz, and none can run SPi32m at 2133Mhz.

But i can run 3Do1se at 2133, 7-7-7-19 1T 1,825v :P

[l0ud_sil3nc3]

anyone, who use dominator GTX2 in this board? i have a little bit problem when running freq 2133 8-8-8-24 1T @ 1.65v.. when i test with super pi 32m i got freeze n then restart... i already increase VCCIO to 1.1v-1.2v but nothing help.. can anyone give advice to me? my bios 1409, i have dominator 2000 c8 rev2.1 hyper's too, but the problem is the same.. something wrong with my bios or........ ?

it takes really good hypers to run on sb, have you tried giving them a bit more voltage?

maybe 1.7-1.75?

[angkies]

it takes really good hypers to run on sb, have you tried giving them a bit more voltage?

maybe 1.7-1.75?

i have try it bro.. the problem not solved

[angkies]

it takes really good hypers to run on sb, have you tried giving them a bit more voltage?

maybe 1.7-1.75?

i have try it bro.. the problem not solved

[l0ud_sil3nc3]

i have try it bro.. the problem not solved

and you all ready tried increasing vccio?

time to get some nice PSC or BBSE then

you should be able to get top dollar for those GTX2's as well so it shouldn't cost you anything to upgrade.

[PolRoger]

After pretty exhaustive testing it looks like for whatever reason my Pro clocks the cpu better than my M4E. I figured out the M4E needs 0.015 to 0.02v extra to equal the clocks I can get on the Pro. The main thing bugging me is I always get a BSOD instead of an error.

Offset works perfectly on the Pro, so something is definitely different about the implementation between the boards. You can forget about offset voltage at anything over 4.2ghz on the M4E unless you ramp up the offset insane amounts to avoid idle BSODs. Im actually on a minus offset on the Pro (due to LLC) up to 4.6ghz, then all I need is +10mv / +25mv / +50mv / +80mv to do 4.7ghz, 4.8ghz, 4.9ghz and 5.025ghz respectively.

I can hit 5.25 for validations on the Pro using manual voltage 1.55v in bios with 100% LLC for 1.544 idle in windows. Instant desktop BSOD's on the M4E at 51x or higher no matter the volts.


Like I said before it feels like there's a problem on the power plane somewhere - the only thing I can think of is that perhaps the board doesnt like the older Seasonic S2 based PSU's?

I had trouble at first trying to run 50x on my MIVE with offset vcore and LLC@75% vs. fixed vcore at ~1.42v/LLC 75%. I seemed to be getting idle BSOD but I found that running with more vdroop... LLC@50% and offset vcore seemed to clear up my idle BSOD's. BIOS was set to +75mv. Load vcore measured ~1.411v with my Fluke while CPUZ and ASUS Sensor whould alternate between 1.412/1.424v while running WCG (~4hrs).

[PiLsY]

I'll revisit using lower LLC at some point soon. Im just enjoying being back on the Pro right now - the latest bios 2103 which came out a couple of days before I ordered my M4E has fixed the black dimm slots . They now run at over 1866mhz and all cas options are useable not just 8. Tested and confirmed with 4 different kits now none of which would even post at 2133mhz in the black slots before this bios.

So yeah basically if Id seen this bios before ordering the M4E I wouldve saved myself all this hassle, time and expense .

Ive screenshotted all my bios settings on the Pro now so I'll try and mirror them exactly on the M4E with offset and see what happens.

[badatgames18]

anyone, who use dominator GTX2 in this board? i have a little bit problem when running freq 2133 8-8-8-24 1T @ 1.65v.. when i test with super pi 32m i got freeze n then restart... i already increase VCCIO to 1.1v-1.2v but nothing help.. can anyone give advice to me? my bios 1409, i have dominator 2000 c8 rev2.1 hyper's too, but the problem is the same.. something wrong with my bios or........ ?

i'm running 4x2 gtx2 atm.. tbh.. it will vary on the quality of your imc... when using 1:8 (any timing) i know i think i saw chew say it was up to the quality of ram, but no problem running them 8-8-8-24 2133 or even 7-8-7-21 2133 (if not going to be running super pi) 1.65v on my 58 multi and up chips.. however with my lower quality chips (one in my 24/7 rig) i can't run it on 1:8, especially with 4 DIMM. I've tested alot of hypers.. i really think it's a combination of both good imc and quality ram to make it work nice and good

so far only sticks that work with super pi 32m are 4 gtx2, a set of cmg 2000c7 dominators, and my old adata xpg+ 2200c8.. everything else is a no go (never had any ocz blades though)

Things that will help
change data and ctrl voltages on both channels to .495-.490

sometimes playing with skew voltages will help

other than that, if it doesn't work.. move on to a different chip is all you can do unfortunately

current chip can't handle 1:8 w/4DIMM
so here is my 24/7 (i can run 1:8 benching on any chip though.. just needs more volts than if it had a decent imc)

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1065/alglkjaa.png


old adata working perfectly on 2133 1.65v (on good chip)

[andressergio]

I had trouble at first trying to run 50x on my MIVE with offset vcore and LLC@75% vs. fixed vcore at ~1.42v/LLC 75%. I seemed to be getting idle BSOD but I found that running with more vdroop... LLC@50% and offset vcore seemed to clear up my idle BSOD's. BIOS was set to +75mv. Load vcore measured ~1.411v with my Fluke while CPUZ and ASUS Sensor whould alternate between 1.412/1.424v while running WCG (~4hrs).

ur chip seem identical than mine pol, but u should prime it im sure will need a notch on vcore

btw using offset on mive is kinda nonsense is just a good mobo for manual vcore inmo

[PolRoger]

ur chip seem identical than mine pol, but u should prime it im sure will need a notch on vcore

btw using offset on mive is kinda nonsense is just a good mobo for manual vcore inmo

You would probably be right... Prime would most likely need more vcore. I've run daily o.c's using both types of settings but for bigger o.c.'s I prefer "fixed" vcore.
I've bumped back down to 49x "fixed" vcore as I don't really need the extra 100MHz and I can keep the load temps in the upper 50's to lower 60's.

[andressergio]

You would probably be right... Prime would most likely need more vcore. I've run daily o.c's using both types of settings but for bigger o.c.'s I prefer "fixed" vcore.
I've bumped back down to 49x "fixed" vcore as I don't really need the extra 100MHz and I can keep the load temps in the upper 50's to lower 60's.

you rig will do awesome if you just put 1,425 on bios if you dont game too much and 1,435 if you game a lot like me

chips seems identical pol cheers !
Sergio

[OcAddict]

well i dont honestly know what is happening latest MIVE ive seen do that, 2 of my friends got MIVE from US to my country and both using TRI SLI and SLI one could solve the problem and it was magic from a day to other all went good and never happened again, my other friend can run 1 card and second wont be recognized no matter what you do, or if it does you have to restart PC to recognize then it goes away again

i think rajaAsus should be here on this thread also or maybe PM him he is very active on the RIVE thread

cheers Sergio

I've sent a PM to Raja@Asus couple of days ago but no answer yet.
My problem is somewhat the same like with your second friend. This is very weird and very frustrating. What did he do with the board, RMA?

[PiLsY]

My problems with offset werent caused by the M4E, its caused by the 210x series bios upgrade on the P67 range. Once id updated my Pro to the 2103 bios it started to behave exactly the same as the Maximus had with offset enabled.

My guess is theyve updated the VID table for turbo ratios in some way, but its had a really profound effect on high multi offset clocking. Voltage is spiking WAY higher than it used to and its fluctuating wildly depending on how many cores are loaded. 1 core load voltage has dropped by a ton, 2 and 3 core voltage is significantly higher and 4 core voltage is doing some crazy spikes going on and off load (possibly related to the cores "loading up" and rapidly changing the vid request?).

To solve it on my Pro I had to completely start again with balancing additional turbo against +offset and LLC level. My previous stable on bios 1850 on the pro was +0.085v offset and 0.360 max add turbo voltage. This gave me 1.048-1.085 idle and 1.536-1.544v load on High LLC. The same settings after updating to 2103 gave 1.120 idle and up to 1.62v load - that was an OMGWTFBBQ moment, but the cpu seems unscathed. Its taken a long time to find a setting thats stable with load on 1, 2, 3 and 4 cores and not just 4 cores and idle. Every voltage range had to come down and LLC had to be tightened up to bring voltages closer to the vid request amount. I've ended up on +0.035v offset and +0.152 max add turbo with Very High LLC. This gives me a solid 1.048v idle and 1.528v to 1.552v load (most of the time its bang on 1.536 but it does wander a little at times now). Thats a big change and a lot of hours work just from a bios update - it was like starting again on a totally different board tbh.

I'll be moving the chip back into the M4E this weekend and trying again with offset applying what Ive learned from 2103 on the Pro to 2105 on the M4E. I've got an overnight prime95 to run before I know for sure im stable and then I can have a good crack at 2133mhz on the Pro.

I've got high hopes for the M4E again now, fingers crossed!

[andressergio]

I've sent a PM to Raja@Asus couple of days ago but no answer yet.
My problem is somewhat the same like with your second friend. This is very weird and very frustrating. What did he do with the board, RMA?

i will have to add another friend just mem stop working on black slots, no matter what he does change mem, chip those banks are dead...this sux poor guys

[andressergio]

last nite i erased my SSD's that are working on 3 x RAID0 since months and recover the image with acronis
updated also intel rapid storage drivers

RAID0 has W764SP1 + office2010 + tools + BF3 + MW3 + Batman AC and other games



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[the_real_7]

last nite i erased my SSD's that are working on 3 x RAID0 since months and recover the image with acronis
updated also intel rapid storage drivers

RAID0 has W764SP1 + office2010 + tools + BF3 + MW3 + Batman AC and other games



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Damn Sergio very imppressive write speed there , your making my mouth water lol , later this week im raid up to im thinking i was just waiting for the new rst drivers with trim

[andressergio]

Damn Sergio very imppressive write speed there , your making my mouth water lol , later this week im raid up to im thinking i was just waiting for the new rst drivers with trim

thanks friend yeah raid0 of ssd is awesome, there are new drivers but no support for trim at least for now

[GaBBa-Gandalf]

Hello...

Did somebody already update the onboard intel sata / raid controller?
Like here: http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1578865&page=261

greetz
GaBBa

[aussie-revhead]

Are you guys happy with your M4E mobos? I bought one and prepped it for single stage fun with SB, I just received a cpu that has a 5800 validation on water and has benched 3D at 5700 but I cant duplicate the previous owners results, I had another 2600K that also did 5750 on water but I couldnt get it stable over 5500 .... so either my mobo has some underlaying issues or Im doing something very wrong .....

[andressergio]

Are you guys happy with your M4E mobos? I bought one and prepped it for single stage fun with SB, I just received a cpu that has a 5800 validation on water and has benched 3D at 5700 but I cant duplicate the previous owners results, I had another 2600K that also did 5750 on water but I couldnt get it stable over 5500 .... so either my mobo has some underlaying issues or Im doing something very wrong .....

yeah absolutely your problem is quite common not any chip/mobo/mem is equal so maybe the mobo dont up the chip u bough so good or either chip was cooled different or maybe its a bit degraded, i had tested this on my own so im sure of what im saying