Kepler Nvidia GeForce GTX 780

[Iconyu]

NVIDIA would have to be out of their minds to price a card that outperformed the GTX 580 at a level that UNDERCUTS their own product. The entire point of price structuring through old / new lineups is to effectively clear out stock of their existing products while still selling a new architecture.

Very simply and as illustrated well by AMD: if a graphics card outperforms a previous generation part that's still being sold, expect it to be priced at a higher level.

Seems like people who have no clue about the GPU market are talking out of their rear ends again in an effort to generate traffic.

It's the 'still being sold' part that's the issue with your logic here. There was a huge gap between the 480 and the 460 launch, and the 460 easily has more transistors than the 280/285 before it and is faster and was sold cheaper than the 280/285. What we're not mentioning here is the fact that TSMC have raised wafer prices, so Nvidia may not be able to price their *60 much lower than say the 570. But I imagine they'll just stick to the old method of launching high end and harvested high end parts first and waiting for a couple of months before releasing the tier below that.

[CrimInalA]

Who has an idea as to how this new lineup will perform in bitcoin crunching ?

[The|Hunter]

These rumors actually come from OBR (here) so I doubt that they are true

True, they're even more fake then all this..
http://videocardz.com/nvidia/geforce-700


btw if you check that OBR leak really close, you will see a sausage in the background LMAO.


anyway, according to the latest rumors we won't see GK104 before June..

[HelixPC]

lets hope the new cards from nvidia can do 3 monitors off 1 card and have more than 2gb of memory, something last generation was lacking.

[Manicdan]

naa, they need to push their 3d tech, and the 3 monitor setup. so i would expect it to do both and support 6 monitors or 3 at 120fps, otherwise they fall behind in tech by way too much.

[SabreWulf69]

Any news of if there is any actual new tech instead of just improvement on things? I would like to see something new and revolutionary. Gcards are boring me as of late, for something so essential, they are so lack luster in appeal as far as original engineering goes. I'm talking about getting rid of certain subsystems and completely replacing them with something else. Either it may not be feasible or whatever, or maybe I have been watching too much science fiction lately, but it would be nice to see something completely new.

- Living in Tech Dreamland (perhaps)

[BababooeyHTJ]

Any news of if there is any actual new tech instead of just improvement on things? I would like to see something new and revolutionary. Gcards are boring me as of late, for something so essential, they are so lack luster in appeal as far as original engineering goes. I'm talking about getting rid of certain subsystems and completely replacing them with something else. Either it may not be feasible or whatever, or maybe I have been watching too much science fiction lately, but it would be nice to see something completely new.

- Living in Tech Dreamland (perhaps)

I can't wait to see what comes of 3d in the coming years. I think thats where we'll see the biggest advancements, hopefully.

[bjuderas]

lets hope the new cards from nvidia can do 3 monitors off 1 card and have more than 2gb of memory, something last generation was lacking.

I hope the 780 will have at least 3GB of memory!

[Generic user #2]

lets hope the new cards from nvidia can do 3 monitors off 1 card and have more than 2gb of memory, something last generation was lacking.

yes, i am also in desperate need of this.

i am NOT buying a dual-gpu card just to get triple monitor support for my development machine; it'd be to the ATI side for me

[kuroikenshi]

WTF is wrong with people calling Nvidia's next gen 700 series? logically its should be 600 series. I am not sure why there are so many people assuming this bull.

I do not think Nvidia will play sheeple and skip 600 naming scheme just to be on par number-wise with AMD, even more if they have a strong product, naming its just a marketing gimmick usually used when a bubble effect needs to be added to a product.

(regardless as to what both companies have done in the past)

[SkItZo]

Ummmm.....2XXGTX - 4XXGTX?
Short memory....

[Generic user #2]

i thought they did it because its a new architecture....2xx was one arch, 4xx-5xx is another arch, 7xx is a new arch....

[Lanek]

There's a difference between an architecture evolution and a new mArch. Fermi have open the line of a new mArch, Kepler is just an evolution of this mArch. There will be some major change, but not a new idea behind the architecture.
(Polymorph engine, a SIMD based architecture... ( Basically a group of SMID who include the computer parts + 1D Stream processors ( Cuda cores ), regrouped in GC ).
The question stay open about the numbers of SP/SM and how many SM by GC...

[Olivon]

"Kepler" Features 256-bit and 2GB Memory - EXPreview

Though we are unable to confirm the concrete specifications and how effective the performance of first-launched "Kepler" will be, well-informed source indicated that "Kepler" will feature 256-bit memory controller, its corresponding graphics will pack 2GB memory, have TDP of 225W. We infer the first product may be the GK104 "Kepler" GPU. Judged from the memory controller and memory capacity, it is supposed to be difficult to defeat AMD Radeon HD 7970 or even Radeon HD 7950, in addition, TDP of 225W doesn’t have much going for it compared with the competitor.

As for Radeon HD 7950, the source revealed that the graphics card will launch on January 26th, several days earlier than the previous report.

[3lfk1ng]

lets hope the new cards from nvidia can do 3 monitors off 1 card

They can.

[spursindonesia]

Now, that's an interesting info, late March-early April, seems confirming my earlier info from a friend in a local computer distro, but the performance estimation is underwhelming, since earlier he said it would trade blows with Tahiti. Well, perhaps it WILL, if you use NVidia's review guideline (the same kinda guideline that put HD 7970 60% faster than GTX 580).

IF 256 bit buswidth rumor comes true, i agree, it won't be able keeping up with Tahiti, and the US$ 399 MSRP seems more logical that way, with performance around ~GTX 570 or HD 6970.

[RPGWiZaRD]

Well if this around 220~225W speculations are true for GK104 it somewhat worries me what to expect about GK100, another GTX 480 coming? (provided it hasn't been cancelled by now :P) Performance wise I still expect this GK104 to be like 5~10% faster than GTX 580 (from the much higher clock speeds and increased cuda cores) though but definitely won't beat 7970 however it's probably quite close fight with 7950.

[Chrono Detector]

The NVIDIA top dog is going to have a 256 bit memory bus and 2GB of VRAM? is this meant to go against the 7970 or lower?

[Andrew LB]

Posted Today (saturday) http://www.fudzilla.com/graphics/ite...-early-q2-2012

naa, they need to push their 3d tech, and the 3 monitor setup. so i would expect it to do both and support 6 monitors or 3 at 120fps, otherwise they fall behind in tech by way too much.

While 3D and 3 monitor technology seems to be the latest trend in both computer graphics and home theater, IMO 3D seems to be more of a marketing gimmick that companies have used to capitalize on the popularity of Movie Theater 3D. I know many people who ran out and bought very expensive 3D LED LCD's right after Avatar even though they already had very nice flat panel HD screens at home, and after a couple months of occasionally watching something in 3D (with very expensive glasses), pretty much none of them use it anymore. Then there is the fact that 20-25% of the population get sick watching 3D. Read this...

As for triple-screen gaming... once again, that is another niche market that I don't see becoming all that common. The vast majority of Americans typically have one computer monitor, and most of the time it's a pretty crappy one. I don't for see Joe Public who buys their computers at Best Buy suddenly buying graphics cards that cost more than his entire computer and then tripling up on monitors. Only a very few, very dedicated, and well funded gamers even know about triple monitor gaming let alone actually own a setup like that.

[Manicdan]

^
its about checking off features. lots of people who buy expensive gpus want to keep them for years and want future proof. if you walk into a store and one card shows 6 screen gaming, and the other shows nothing, you question if you will want those 6 screens before you upgrade again. (and with prices of screens it can be pretty cheap to get 6 screens too, although they will suck). its all about marketing tactics. even if something is used 5% of the time, its more stuff to keep your sales from going to your competition.

i also like the idea of pushing higher framerates, i cannot wait for the day of 240fps gaming where you can spin your mouse fast and never loose track of you position.

[bamtan2]

The NVIDIA top dog is going to have a 256 bit memory bus and 2GB of VRAM? is this meant to go against the 7970 or lower?

I think there is a modest chance that nvidia is waiting for 7950 information.

If Nvidia is trailing AMD and only has a mid-range chip ready, it will be extra important to get this product positioned right. they cant launch GK104 blindly and risk it looking unfavorable compared to 7950, especially with no GK100 coming soon. they will wait, and if they can clock GK104 to match or beat 7950, they will try their darnedest to do that.

AMD and Nvidia may be in a month-long game of chicken right now. I expect AMD to end the 7950 NDA once everyone already has one.

[gumballguy]

While 3D and 3 monitor technology seems to be the latest trend in both computer graphics and home theater, IMO 3D seems to be more of a marketing gimmick that companies have used to capitalize on the popularity of Movie Theater 3D. I know many people who ran out and bought very expensive 3D LED LCD's right after Avatar even though they already had very nice flat panel HD screens at home, and after a couple months of occasionally watching something in 3D (with very expensive glasses), pretty much none of them use it anymore. Then there is the fact that 20-25% of the population get sick watching 3D. Read this...

As for triple-screen gaming... once again, that is another niche market that I don't see becoming all that common. The vast majority of Americans typically have one computer monitor, and most of the time it's a pretty crappy one. I don't for see Joe Public who buys their computers at Best Buy suddenly buying graphics cards that cost more than his entire computer and then tripling up on monitors. Only a very few, very dedicated, and well funded gamers even know about triple monitor gaming let alone actually own a setup like that.

I agree with most of that... except one thing:

Most people that try 3d gaming stop using it.
Not one single person who has seen my eyefinity setup said it wasn't amazing.

Target audience is definately "very few, very dedicated, and well funded gamers" as you say. But if you put cost out the window, one is a technology that people would overwhelmingly use whilst the other is not.

If only the top-range cards supported eyefinity/3d and mid-range didn't, I'd have no problem with that. It's kind of what happens anyway, because they dont have the processing power in the mid range cards for the extra resolution. Yes there are exceptions of course.

[OutSider]

i`m curious what would happen if "Apple" was doing all the marketing for triple display setup

[STEvil]

i`m curious what would happen if "Apple" was doing all the marketing for triple display setup

A single button mouse is good enough for apple, what would they need multiple monitors for?

[Cold Fussion]

A single button mouse is good enough for apple, what would they need multiple monitors for?

You do realise all modern mac's have right click right?