Quote Originally Posted by -Boris- View Post
My point is that even Intels power efficient 32nm gets a lot worse when making huge chips. And your calculations is wrong, no way that L3 just uses 380 million transistors. The difference between Athlon II and Phenom II is 6Mb cache and roughly 450M transistors. My math would say 852m for cores and 600m for L3, and then IMC and HTT eats a lot to. So it's safe to say that it's way above 1.2 billion transistors, more like 1.7 billion+.

AMD has so far only made 1.5 and 2 billion chips at 32nm, no wonder they both produce a lot of heat and don't reach higher clocks than they do. Intel waited almost 2 years before launching such large chips at 32nm.
Propus only has one hypertransport link compared to 4 links for Deneb (which shares it's design with Shanghai) so your math is off.