were not making 140mm version as i don't see the point.

1) there are no really decent 140mm cases for the mass market or fans for that matter that ive come across.
2) 120mm is established
3) there is very little performance gain

So you all prefer M4 tapped. (ill look into that we were going to do m3 tapping)

the shroud as such will be built in.

We cannot do 4 different fittings if we are to be competitive due to the expense of having them fitted (its not cheap over here in the UK). If we were to have them made in china we could throw all sorts of crap on because it would cost nothing to make but were looking for quality of build and performance not some cheap quick profit, quick turn over rad.

The paint we are using is thin paint that is used on gas heating in fires as it works fine. (how ever it will show though if scratched)

this is our first venture into the rad side of the market and we would like to make a impact from the word go with them so we are tying how ever we have to stay with in reason and costs. We don't want gimmicks or hype just some thing you can hold and go yeh its a good rad and then put in you system and smile. If we can achieve that then we will be happy.

There is very little profit in rads so what we make has to be good else we simply wont do it.

Mick