***Asus Rampage III Extreme Owners Thread***

[spoolindsm127]

Should be 2 HT on categories for 6 and 12GB its only 2 groups not like its 10 or something so not much harder to administrate. Should make it also full mem capacity -1024MB.

spoolin - yeah now running ram at DDR3-1868MHz | 7-7-7-20 1T, tRFC 60 and slightly tighter subs @ 1.594v. Still have some fine tuning to do but its a bit better than previous settings, which I was limited to due to running with no fan over the ram.

Nice. Your CMG kit is definitely very strong. Did you see any latency improvements in AIDA64? Also wondering what the difference is between 7-7-7-20 and 7-7-7-21.


Zoson - I think what Cryptik is trying to say is more like two categories of <6GB and >6GB. I know about the bug you are referring to in LinX. All 12GB cannot be tested, but it is still more than 6GB.

[CryptiK]

Yes, I mean 9126MB with HT On should be a category. I keep saying 12GB due to that being the min amount of physical ram installed in an X58 board required to run that test. I should have been more clear.

I'm actually running my 1866C7GT kits, but they seem ok, not sure what constitutes strong with Hypers, I just think if GTX2's which were untouchable. My 2000C8GT are also pretty good, but I can't remember what they need for these speeds. 7-7-7-20 is what Hypers are comfortable running up to and above DDR3-2000MHz, you don't need to use tRAS of 21 as with DDR2 and some DDR3 as they are fine with the tighter step. Corsair rate them at 1866/7-8-7-20 so the 20 is stock timing and actually 2 steps tighter than the old rule book would state is required.

[zoson]

Nice. Your CMG kit is definitely very strong. Did you see any latency improvements in AIDA64? Also wondering what the difference is between 7-7-7-20 and 7-7-7-21.


Zoson - I think what Cryptik is trying to say is more like two categories of <6GB and >6GB. I know about the bug you are referring to in LinX. All 12GB cannot be tested, but it is still more than 6GB.

The idea is that the club would provide apples-to-apples comparisons of peoples tweaks, tricks, and hardware... Just like we can easily show that having donmarkoni's setup at the same speeds is still faster than my setup.

You can't compare a 6gb run to a 9gb run.

This is why with HT off, I am enforcing all mem -1gb. So that people with 12gb can fully stress their machines and provide performance comparisons for each other.

People with 12gb can do the 5120 test and still have their performance directly apples-to-apples with the 6gb people.

The facts:
I already have a category for 12gb users, and it provides a real stress test that will allow apples-to-apples comparisons between users with more than 9216mb memory.
There's no reason why someone with 12gb ram can't just select 5120mb in linx and participate apples-to-apples in the HT on category.
Testing more than 9216 memory with HT on is bugged, and doesn't actually stress your machine correctly, so there's no reason to record these results.

Prime example:
I can run my 18gb kit at 1866mhz with HT on and 9216mb memory size. it will Linx FOREVER.

If I turn HT off, and run with the EXACT same settings but max mem, my memory overclock is unstable because now all three of my memory channels are fully engaged(literally, same exact settings, just turned HT off). Since testing of >9216mb with HT on can be used to cheat and make an overclock look stable, when it is actually not... It's not acceptable to have a category for it. I'm not saying Cryptik is cheating... But others will for sure.

I don't want this club to turn into the 4.5ghz club with a bunch of lame/fake results.

[zoson]

Nice. Your CMG kit is definitely very strong. Did you see any latency improvements in AIDA64? Also wondering what the difference is between 7-7-7-20 and 7-7-7-21.


Zoson - I think what Cryptik is trying to say is more like two categories of <6GB and >6GB. I know about the bug you are referring to in LinX. All 12GB cannot be tested, but it is still more than 6GB.

The idea is that the club would provide apples-to-apples comparisons of peoples tweaks, tricks, and hardware... Just like we can easily show that having donmarkoni's setup at the same speeds is still faster than my setup.

You can't compare a 6gb run to a 9gb run.

This is why with HT off, I am enforcing all mem -1gb. So that people with 12gb can fully stress their machines and provide performance comparisons for each other.

People with 12gb can do the 5120 test and still have their performance directly apples-to-apples with the 6gb people.

The facts:
I already have a category for 12gb users, and it provides a real stress test that will allow apples-to-apples comparisons between users with more than 9216mb memory.
There's no reason why someone with 12gb ram can't just select 5120mb in linx and participate apples-to-apples in the HT on category.
Testing more than 9216 memory with HT on is bugged, and doesn't actually stress your machine correctly, so there's no reason to record these results.

Prime example:
I can run my 18gb kit at 1866mhz with HT on and 9216mb memory size. it will Linx FOREVER.

If I turn HT off, and run with the EXACT same settings but max mem, my memory overclock is unstable because now all three of my memory channels are fully engaged(literally, same exact settings, just turned HT off). Since testing of >9216mb with HT on can be used to cheat and make an overclock look stable, when it is actually not... It's not acceptable to have a category for it. I'm not saying Cryptik is cheating... But others will for sure.

I don't want this club to turn into the 4.5ghz club with a bunch of lame/fake results.

[spoolindsm127]

I'm actually running my 1866C7GT kits, but they seem ok, not sure what constitutes strong with Hypers, I just think if GTX2's which were untouchable. My 2000C8GT are also pretty good, but I can't remember what they need for these speeds. 7-7-7-20 is what Hypers are comfortable running up to and above DDR3-2000MHz, you don't need to use tRAS of 21 as with DDR2 and some DDR3 as they are fine with the tighter step. Corsair rate them at 1866/7-8-7-20 so the 20 is stock timing and actually 2 steps tighter than the old rule book would state is required.

Yea my definition of strong is the memory being able to run tighter timings / lower frequencies than it's rated for without a problem. See I have tested multiple Hyper kits, couple of which were Corsair. In one kit each stick was capable of 2230MHz 8-8-8-24-1T 1.65v (real). However, they wouldn't run 7-7-7-21-1T at all. Another set, which I have run most of the time, can do min 2134MHz 8-8-8-24-1T and 2020MHz 7-7-7-21-1T.

I thought you had a 2000MHz kit that was doing 1866MHz 7-7-7-20-1T. Which in my books is considered good. But even being a 1866MHz kit, the fact it can tighten tRCD to 7 is still very good.

[spoolindsm127]

Just got my replacement R3E from Asus. Same revision, 1.04G. Has a Lotes socket unlike my old board and the I/O jacks are opposite brand of what the old board were; meaning the sound jack was lotes on the old board and everything else like ps/2 and usb was foxconn. New board only sound is foxconn, everything else is Lotes. Some of the small capacitors/resistors look different in color also.

If this is a better, revised board I might just go back to it.

[donmarkoni]

Hmm... I see that much has happened here since I was away...

High Performance Club, great idea! I like it.

You guys did great, especially you Cryptik, but now I want my crown back!

Math is a universal language, so I'll just say this: 84.3369/4.20004=20.08 (got you by two )



EDIT: Maybe Hi Perf Club deserves a thread of it's own? If you guys agree, we should ask Admins/Mods to migrate appropriate post since zoson's post#5505 when the idea was born, and of course make his post#5519 the first post of The High Performace Club?

BTW, I hope I won't be banned for posting X58A-OC result in R3E thread.

[zoson]

Hmm... I see that much has happened here since I was away...

High Performance Club, great idea! I like it.

You guys did great, especially you Cryptik, but now I want my crown back!

Math is a universal language, so I'll just say this: 84.3369/4.20004=20.08 (got you by two )



EDIT: Maybe Hi Perf Club deserves a thread of it's own? If you guys agree, we should ask Admins/Mods to migrate appropriate post since zoson's post#5505 when the idea was born, and of course make his post#5519 the first post of The High Performace Club?

BTW, I hope I won't be banned for posting X58A-OC result in R3E thread.

I've been weighing what's been said in the thread... I've made a few changes to the rules since the original post... Once I had a bit more feedback, I was going to start a new thread.

I was also considering looking through the 4.5ghz club and getting some results from there to 'seed' the new club with members... If there's a qualifying run there, have it apply here... etc...

I've also been wondering how AMD systems perform and if we could have them compete in this also? All the results I've seen can't even compete though... I'd like for AMD to be able to submit results... But I have no baseline for comparison...

[sprite]

Hi everyone. I had rampage III extreme for over a year now and never had problems but yesterday one came up. I unplugged all of the cables from the pc because I wanted to move my pc to the other side of the room and after I plugged everything back and started my pc I don't have internet connection since then. When I go to the device manager it says that Intel; 82567V-2 This device cannot start (Code 10). I read that this may be driver issue so reinstalled drivers and I even got the latest version but it still doesn't work. My others computers have the internet connection so it has to be the Intel network adapter not working. Any of you had this problem before or know what to do to fix it?

[spoolindsm127]

Got my 980X back from RMA a couple weeks back. The Intel Gods must have been watching over me on this one. Sent in Batch 3048A259, received Batch 3048A255. I had come across this Batch previously, and it had a lower VID than the A259. It's a Golden Batch .

4.5GHz 155.2x29 1862MHz 7-7-7-20-1T Uncore 3724MHz

Load (real)

VCore 1.316v-1.317v
QPI 1.293v
DRAM 1.662v



89.2273 GFlops / 4.50063 GHz = 19.83

P.S. Hope I also don't get banned for posting in this thread. I don't know if this is worth any consolation but I will be switching back to R3E for comparison shortly.

[donmarkoni]

Got my 980X back from RMA a couple weeks back. The Intel Gods must have been watching over me on this one. Sent in Batch 3048A259, received Batch 3048A255. I had come across this Batch previously, and it had a lower VID than the A259. It's a Golden Batch .

4.5GHz 155.2x29 1862MHz 7-7-7-20-1T Uncore 3724MHz

Load (real)

VCore 1.316v-1.317v
QPI 1.293v
DRAM 1.662v

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...ghz1860mhd.jpg

89.2273 GFlops / 4.50063 GHz = 19.83

P.S. Hope I also don't get banned for posting in this thread. I don't know if this is worth any consolation but I will be switching back to R3E for comparison shortly.

Good result! All results close to 20GFLOPS/GHz mean that rig is highly optimized. Above 20 is very hard. I'll try above 20 with 4.6GHz when the temps get lower.

Have you tried pushing UnCore/RAM to ~4/2GHz?

It would be great to see another comparison between OC & R3E!

[CryptiK]

intel rma comes through with the golden batch! LOL nice

[zoson]

I will start the HPC thread soon so we have an appropriate thread to post in/compare results.

[spoolindsm127]

Good result! All results close to 20GFLOPS/GHz mean that rig is highly optimized. Above 20 is very hard. I'll try above 20 with 4.6GHz when the temps get lower.

Have you tried pushing UnCore/RAM to ~4/2GHz?

It would be great to see another comparison between OC & R3E!

Thanks Don . Without optimizing the memory timings I was hardly pulling 86GFlops. And YESS, above 20 is VERY hard. I tried to surpass your result but it was requiring too much QPI so I pussied out. And above 20 as in above 20.07, so 20.08+. Very difficult to do.

Yes I was first going for 4/2GHz for Uncore/Ram. But after seeing how sensitive Gulfs are when pushing QPI, I was never able to stabilize 2000MHz/4000MHz. I am strictly not pushing QPI past 1.33v.

Also I believe the 'safe' uncore multi formula [ ((mem multi x 2) -2) within -1 or +2 ] needs to be followed or degradation happens to the IMC. Maybe that is why my last 980X died. I was pushing memory up to 2200MHz and keeping uncore at lowest multi. I also did a 4.5GHz LinX run with mem at 12x and uncore 26x.

Oh I am definitely doing a R3E vs OC comparison with this chip. At least for the above posted clocks.

CryptiK - The key is hoping and expecting a crappy batch, then you get the golden

Zoson - Looking forward to posting in your thread sir

[fmsam]

So I guess you guys have seen this then ?

http://vr-zone.com/articles/first-lo...ck-/13795.html

[zoson]

Of course we did. But if you have a high end 1366 setup like _everyone_ in this thread... 2011 is not all that relevant. I suspect many people with R3E's will skip 2011 entirely(I am planning to). 11% IPC in best case scenarios is just not enough to get me excited.

[spoolindsm127]

Same here.. I'm sticking with 1366.

Does anyone know if R3E supports X56xx series CPUs like X5650?

[zoson]

I think it should spool, as long as the bios already supports the multiplier of that cpu. It's not official, but there are many reports of people using xeon 5xxx series cpu's on r3e. You can see them if you google it.

[spoolindsm127]

Thanks for the reply Zoson. Yea I have seen screenshots also but can't figure out why my board won't run a X5679 I have. Maybe because it is an obscure CPU?

It keeps giving me a Bad Bios Checksum error. And then it continuously searches the removable media and cd-rom drives for what I suspect a Bios file for recovery. Don't know if it's a broken CPU or lack of Bios support.

[Leeghoofd]

Maybe the daily OC could persuade some to jump the 2011 wagon...

[thobel]

Guys Its been awile I was wondering if anyone could tell me what the best bios is these days for the R3E I have been running some beta 0096 bios for awile now

[zoson]

Thanks for the reply Zoson. Yea I have seen screenshots also but can't figure out why my board won't run a X5679 I have. Maybe because it is an obscure CPU?

It keeps giving me a Bad Bios Checksum error. And then it continuously searches the removable media and cd-rom drives for what I suspect a Bios file for recovery. Don't know if it's a broken CPU or lack of Bios support.

It looks like X5679 is an i7 970. I would expect this CPU to work. It seems silly for me to ask this, but you cleared CMOS? Also, did you try 1401 bios?

Maybe the daily OC could persuade some to jump the 2011 wagon...

I'm not expecting 2011 to do any better OC than 1155. Same architecture + more cores = more heat and more volts required for similar clockspeeds.

Guys Its been awile I was wondering if anyone could tell me what the best bios is these days for the R3E I have been running some beta 0096 bios for awile now

I think the general consensus is 0003, or 1401 are the best now. 0003 is the 'memory' bios. if you have memory that doesn't behave nicely with the r3e, 0003 saves you. 1401 is the same as 1301, but with additional CPU support.

[thobel]

I'm going to need to test out 0003 I had an odd issue yesterday. I was asked to do some benches for a review running stock speed with Ram @ 2133 whenever I went stock cpu and 2133 ram i would only see 2 or 4gb of ram as soon as I went back to normal overclock all my ram was back and fine.

ps anyone have a link to the 0003 bios?

[thobel]

So got 0003 same issue Windows detects 4GB (2x2) however CPU'z see's all the memory (2gbx3) anyone have any idea's?

[tistou77]

I'm not expecting 2011 to do any better OC than 1155. Same architecture + more cores = more heat and more volts required for similar clockspeeds.

2011 socket seem best in OC,

Today, we just witnessed an overclocked LGA2011 processor. The processor runs on the Intel X79 Express chipset mainboard with a regular heatsink. We observe the temperature at IDLE, it reads around 45 degrees.

A check on the CPU monitor shows that the CPU is running at a multiplier of 41X with CPU CLK set to 120MHz. This gives us a reading of 4.92GHz. The memory was running DDR3-2400 at CAS 10. CPU Vcore was 1.51v.

From the readings, it looks like the new Core i7 would be a pretty good overclocker. Who cares about LN2 when you can achieve such high speeds even on AIR. The retail processor should do better

http://en.ocworkbench.com/tech/intel...g-5ghz-on-air/