Just as a side note, he did have in his sig that while he works for AMD, what he posts is NOT the word of AMD and not official in any way. He posted on the side, as he saw things, not as part of his job.Originally Posted by zir_blazer
Just as a side note, he did have in his sig that while he works for AMD, what he posts is NOT the word of AMD and not official in any way. He posted on the side, as he saw things, not as part of his job.
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If I worked at some place and say in public a piece of data that is not protected under NDA (While I know all the other details I can NOT say to be able to reach and sustain such a conclusion), you are indeed going to believe me much, much more that some random guy with an Engineering Sample leaking results. I don't think he could have stated something without knowing if it was true or false as he knew all the details we didn't, this is why I don't get why he could have insisting soo firmly in the "IPC increases" thing if it wasn't the case. Maybe he was comparing a Bulldozer module against a single K10 Core, that is the only way you can make sense of it.
Also, he was quite accurate with the statement that Bulldozer wasn't compatible with the standard AM3 platform and at that moment I think most believed that it could been a drop-in replacement.
Last edited by zir_blazer; 10-16-2011 at 07:41 PM.
Must have been all those posts by Terrace that did it.
Guess the engineers couldn't work out why it was going wrong, huh?
i am really getting tired of that getting posted 1000 times and jf-amd getting blamed for terrace getting banned. terrace was banned because he couldn't keep his mouth shut plain and simple. and with him being banned we aren't even supposed to be mentioning his name. yet if we were to mention obr's name in a bd thread half the people would jump on you. but no its ok to talk about terrace all we want.
/rant
As you said, he got banned for continually stating the same thing and arguing his point with jf and the fans, turnes out he was right.
its not the message, is how you push the message. if i walk into every intel post and say that the next intel chips are going to be overpriced and useless for mainstream, i have every right to believe that, but i dont have the right to flamebait in every thread with that idea.
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If what you are saying is true and people are saying you are wrong then you do have the right to argue your point, remember it always took more than one person to argue, jf could have said "we will see" and let time dictate who was right, jf argued strongly that terrace was wrong and terrace argued back.
Now you're just making excuses for AMD.
I think it's more than likely that Jeff was simply fed inaccurate information from people higher up in the company... which leads me to believe one of two things. Either management is completely clueless about the architecture of Bulldozer and internal performance estimates, and due to incompetence would just tell Jeff what he wanted to hear to hurry his departure from said office. OR.... someone in management was FULLY aware of how Bulldozer would perform and perhaps didn't really like Jeff very much, thus giving him incorrect date AND putting office politics before the image of the company.
Neither are that far fetched. I personally think the latter is most likely considering I once was in that exact same situation a few years back.
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Now you're just making excuses for AMD.
I think it's more than likely that Jeff was simply fed inaccurate information from people higher up in the company... which leads me to believe one of two things. Either management is completely clueless about the architecture of Bulldozer and internal performance estimates, and due to incompetence would just tell Jeff what he wanted to hear to hurry his departure from said office. OR.... someone in management was FULLY aware of how Bulldozer would perform and perhaps didn't really like Jeff very much, thus giving him incorrect date AND putting office politics before the image of the company.
Neither are that far fetched. I personally think the latter is most likely considering I once was in that exact same situation a few years back.
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