So what you are saying is all we have to do is wait and amd will give us good performance, can't see any reason to doudt that lol.

8 cores, 2 billion transistors, 5 years of hype and it is slower than not only the competitions products but also there previous gen while consuming more power. Still the same people try to paint a rosy picture.

Remember when the intel fanboys said the p4d was better and shouted about the one or two benchmarks that it won in while ignoring power and heat, funny.