the way I see it get a 2500k cheap for your 24/7 rig and have fun on air. I just want to see some ln2 scaling with bulldozer. Its for fun. Ive waited too long and havent used any of my ln2 crap in a year. sandy sux for ln2. I dont see what everyone is complaining about. we finally have some new hardware that scales well with extreme cooling and everyone complains. I dont get it. quit comparing intel to amd and just overclock and have fun. geez. I feel like just quitting ocing altogether if this is how people are going to act.